Mazi had Will in his corner

[805BoysInBlue]

Interesting insight into the Mazi back and forth between the Jones and Mcclay. Glad to have Will in that war room!

 

[dsturgeon]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

 

[805BoysInBlue]

I think this isn't a bad thing after the draft

 

[quickccc]

I believe in McClay .....

 

[J12B]

Can't wait to watch this dline play.

 

[Bullflop]

I feel Mazi adds a physical presence to the Cowboys' DL that hasn't been seen for a long time. I'm anxious for preseason to start to see him play.

 

[eromeopolk]

Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I feel Mazi adds a physical presence to the Cowboys' DL that hasn't been seen for a long time. I'm anxious for preseason to start to see him play.

Not since the Manster. Big shoes to fill though.

 

[Hadenough]

For some reason there are just too many clowns in the war room. The only person in the war room that they need is McClay. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of tag alongs.

 

[Hadenough]

I feel Mazi adds a physical presence to the Cowboys' DL that hasn't been seen for a long time. I'm anxious for preseason to start to see him play.

I feel the same way. I'm already wanting them to manage his snaps for the playoffs. LOL!

 

[noshame]

I don't know about Manster
But the big cat is easily doable

 

[Cowboy_svt]

Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.

no it was still pretty terrible, not like we were oozing out talent on our dline outside of DLAW at the time. Dude went to the dolphins and did ok, but their line is good, then bounced around to 3 other teams and did nothing. Talent didnt show on the field.
I think it hurts even more we skipped over TJ Watt for him.

But yeah i think people need to give Mazi some time, even Quinnen Williams needed time to be who he is now

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.

I don’t think anyone would care about the Taco pick if Watt didn’t go right behind him. Taco was a legit prospect. He flopped. Flops happen but that one gets more press than it should because of Watt. IMO, getting Micah makes up for that.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.

Maranelli and his scheme held too much sway with the FO. The chatter coming out of that draft and is still referenced to this day by Eatman and others is that Maranelli was skeptical of how Watt would hold up physically at DE.

 

[speedkilz88]

I don’t think anyone would care about the Taco pick if Watt didn’t go right behind him. Taco was a legit prospect. He flopped. Flops happen but that one gets more press than it should because of Watt. IMO, getting Micah makes up for that.

Taco had no business going in the first round. He also should not have been looked at by the Cowboys as a right end. He lacked explosive qualities needed on the right side. They basically took him on his traits - Tall, Long armed. The early rounds should not be about just the traits.

 

[blueblood70]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

and I don't think we should know anything about contract details either...

it convolutes what a fan should really be here for to talk about players and stats and wins and losses and discuss games.

it's gotten into major Muddy Waters with fans turning on players because of how much money they make. all of a sudden they're held to a different standard which they're not going to change as a player because they got paid,

they got paid because of what they did up to that point and that the team hopes they'll continue to do it but they earn that money... they didn't force the contract they got it but now fans see them in a different light and I think that that's the worst part of social media and the era of flooded information.

 

[blueblood70]

I don’t think anyone would care about the Taco pick if Watt didn’t go right behind him. Taco was a legit prospect. He flopped. Flops happen but that one gets more press than it should because of Watt. IMO, getting Micah makes up for that.

I don't think fans should still be upset over something that happened 10 years ago and by the way it's not like TJ Watt went right before us or top five or top ten or top 20

he went after us because other teams must have seen similar red flags, whatever they may have been, and we let him go past us just like they let him go past them.

we were not the only team that let TJ Watt slide, just like Tom Brady and Brock Purdy and probably 100 more I can go dig out which I'm not going to that somehow dropping the draft for whatever reason and then they get picked up and they turn out to be great and then fans go through this hindsight thing it's like PTSD for fans hey get over it it happened it's over, let's move on...

I've seen the NFL draft do much worse guys like Kurt Warner and Tony Romo and many many other undrafted players should have went in the top two or three rounds they let them slide it happens this is not a perfect situation where they get it all right on draft day.. So again can fans just let this go it is over tacos not here TJ watts had a great career but everything that's happened since it can't be changed so we might not have Micah Parsons if we would have picked TJ Watt???hmm think hard

you got to think about the way history works, you can't go back even with a time machine and change one thing without changing many others..

just like the tiresome thing about we could have picked jalen Ramsey and still got Henry, that's never been proven that Henry would have still been there... once you change the top of the draft things change below you and if we would have done that then who knows what the rest of the draft would have looked like between then and eight years later..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Taco had no business going in the first round. He also should not have been looked at by the Cowboys as a right end. He lacked explosive qualities needed on the right side. They basically took him on his traits - Tall, Long armed. The early rounds should not be about just the traits.

I didn’t watch the guy in college all I saw was tape on him. And I know I saw plenty of mocks that had him as a 1st and second round pick. We are talking about a late 1st rounder. These are typically guys who can be 2nd round picks.

They didn’t just take him because he was tall and long lol. He was also athletic and productive in college. The trait that they couldn’t see was his heart and his hunger. Those traits don’t show up on tape in college. You either have it or you don’t.


NFL.com had him graded out as a “pro bowl talent”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/taco-charlton/32004348-4164-6504-2f6f-045a92e67e87

Kiper had him going 19th to the Buccs.

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't think fans should still be upset over something that happened 10 years ago and by the way it's not like TJ Watt went right before us or top five or top ten or top 20

he went after us because other teams must have seen similar red flags, whatever they may have been, and we let him go past us just like they let him go past them.

we were not the only team that let TJ Watt slide, just like Tom Brady and Brock Purdy and probably 100 more I can go dig out which I'm not going to that somehow dropping the draft for whatever reason and then they get picked up and they turn out to be great and then fans go through this hindsight thing it's like PTSD for fans hey get over it it happened it's over, let's move on...

I've seen the NFL draft do much worse guys like Kurt Warner and Tony Romo and many many other undrafted players should have went in the top two or three rounds they let them slide it happens this is not a perfect situation where they get it all right on draft day.. So again can fans just let this go it is over tacos not here TJ watts had a great career but everything that's happened since it can't be changed so we might not have Micah Parsons if we would have picked TJ Watt???hmm think hard

you got to think about the way history works, you can't go back even with a time machine and change one thing without changing many others..

just like the tiresome thing about we could have picked jalen Ramsey and still got Henry, that's never been proven that Henry would have still been there... once you change the top of the draft things change below you and if we would have done that then who knows what the rest of the draft would have looked like between then and eight years later..

I think about this too. If we wouldn't have traded our first round pick in 1989 to take Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft, we could have had Junior Seau or Cortez Kennedy AND Emmitt Smith.
But having two first round picks may have altered whether we would have taken Emmitt Smith later in the first round.
We simply can't know, so it becomes an exercise in futility to anguish over what may have been.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't think fans should still be upset over something that happened 10 years ago and by the way it's not like TJ Watt went right before us or top five or top ten or top 20

he went after us because other teams must have seen similar red flags, whatever they may have been, and we let him go past us just like they let him go past them.

we were not the only team that let TJ Watt slide, just like Tom Brady and Brock Purdy and probably 100 more I can go dig out which I'm not going to that somehow dropping the draft for whatever reason and then they get picked up and they turn out to be great and then fans go through this hindsight thing it's like PTSD for fans hey get over it it happened it's over, let's move on...

I've seen the NFL draft do much worse guys like Kurt Warner and Tony Romo and many many other undrafted players should have went in the top two or three rounds they let them slide it happens this is not a perfect situation where they get it all right on draft day.. So again can fans just let this go it is over tacos not here TJ watts had a great career but everything that's happened since it can't be changed so we might not have Micah Parsons if we would have picked TJ Watt???hmm think hard

you got to think about the way history works, you can't go back even with a time machine and change one thing without changing many others..

just like the tiresome thing about we could have picked jalen Ramsey and still got Henry, that's never proven that Henry would have still been there... once you change the top of the draft things change below you and if we would have done that then who knows what the rest of the draft would have looked like between then and eight years later..

Well for starters it wasn’t 10 years ago but I don’t care that they missed on Watt or Taco flopped. It happens. Life goes on. Teams miss out on first rounders every year.

I’m just explaining why it stung for some. Watt was the right pick and I believe Maranelli didn’t like scheme fit so factor that in? Yeah fans will be upset. It happens.