Mazi had Will in his corner

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For some reason there are just too many clowns in the war room. The only person in the war room that they need is McClay. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of tag alongs.
They have already talked out and rehears standards and players verses needs prior to the draft. Already discussed standards as to progressive alternatives are discussed at draft. How many future picks are even being discussed here and now?
 

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I think about this too. If we wouldn't have traded our first round pick in 1989 to take Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft, we could have had Junior Seau or Cortez Kennedy AND Emmitt Smith.
But having two first round picks may have altered whether we would have taken Emmitt Smith later in the first round.
We simply can't know, so it becomes an exercise in futility to anguish over what may have been.
That progression was Jimmy Johnson and 'his' system of his, favorite...
 

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and I don't think we should know anything about contract details either...

it convolutes what a fan should really be here for to talk about players and stats and wins and losses and discuss games.

it's gotten into major Muddy Waters with fans turning on players because of how much money they make. all of a sudden they're held to a different standard which they're not going to change as a player because they got paid,

they got paid because of what they did up to that point and that the team hopes they'll continue to do it but they earn that money... they didn't force the contract they got it but now fans see them in a different light and I think that that's the worst part of social media and the era of flooded information.
It is a valid as a topic, mostly as it affects legitimate player developments...if discussed, not griped as excuses.
 

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no it was still pretty terrible, not like we were oozing out talent on our dline outside of DLAW at the time. Dude went to the dolphins and did ok, but their line is good, then bounced around to 3 other teams and did nothing. Talent didnt show on the field.
I think it hurts even more we skipped over TJ Watt for him.

But yeah i think people need to give Mazi some time, even Quinnen Williams needed time to be who he is now
I love that football man...Gil Brandt. Jerry still listens to him and with conversations!
 

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I feel Mazi adds a physical presence to the Cowboys' DL that hasn't been seen for a long time. I'm anxious for preseason to start to see him play.
Stack that up next draft along with an offensive lineman maybe? Cap would improve if this year's Vet is allowed to move on...but his experience will be missed as well as leadership.
 

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If you don't know my point by now you obviously are not paying attention let it go that's my point it's been over six years and I gave you all the stats other teams passed up TJ Watt for lesser players we all blew it
Once again…..it was never an issue for me lol. You’re telling me to let something go that was never an issue lol….are you reading the posts you are replying to?
 

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no it was still pretty terrible, not like we were oozing out talent on our dline outside of DLAW at the time. Dude went to the dolphins and did ok, but their line is good, then bounced around to 3 other teams and did nothing. Talent didnt show on the field.
I think it hurts even more we skipped over TJ Watt for him.

But yeah i think people need to give Mazi some time, even Quinnen Williams needed time to be who he is now
I just want to see him play the way Jimmy Johnson played his young DT's right away in Jimi Jones, Russell Maryland, Leon Lett, and even Chad Hennings.

The faster they let him get use to Pro Football inside play, the better the defense will be at the end of the year.

Q Dub got his time to develop on the football field.
 

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If you're not gonna read it then maybe I should have drawn pictures for you is that more your speed:lmao:

say whenever a poster does that, says they're not gonna read it, it means they failed, they got beat and they know it and you lose..sorry bud

TJ did not transform the Pittsburgh Steelers, they have not got out of the divisional round and lost the last three playoff games,, only been to the playoffs three out of the last six and their last two seasons have been losing seasons, basically. Ouch that 35mil hes making must sting.

while ours have been 25 and 10 b2b layoff appearances, we're playing great now without him he did not make the Pittsburgh Steelers a championship team we don't know how he would have affected our team, that's my point

if you're not going to read it it's because you know you're wrong because you can't let it go.. Might want to check your estrogen levels because. I bet your testosterone levels are way down sounds like you're going to cry...:muttley::laugh:
I didn’t fail anything lol. I’ve literally said Taco was the right pick and he flopped and that they made up for it by drafting Micah…..you respond with an essay about why I needed to let it go….it’s a failure alright but lm not sure if you still see it. Very odd behavior.
 

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I didn’t fail anything lol. I’ve literally said Taco was the right pick and he flopped and that they made up for it by drafting Micah…..you respond with an essay about why I needed to let it go….it’s a failure alright but lm not sure if you still see it. Very odd behavior.
Micah is a pretty good player...right. Now he needs to be the leader and get even better.
 

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Once again…..it was never an issue for me lol. You’re telling me to let something go that was never an issue lol….are you reading the posts you are replying to?
If we are still talking about the Taco versus TJ Watt draft in the same sentence as the mazi draft as if it's another Michigan draft pick that might have the same fate

that is not letting it go

tacos name should not be brought up anymore in these discussions is my point

unless somebody has an actual thread that literally says list all the draft mistakes we made, list them under here, his name needs to be stopped being brought up:huh::popcorn::eek:
 

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He does. It’s year 3….this is the year he’s suppose to show was that type of season we are to expect.


not sure what you mean is that one of the best starts ever by a defensive end coming into the league he doesn't have anything to prove you in C needs to let that go somehow his name coming up in here is still confusing
 

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Maranelli and his scheme held too much sway with the FO. The chatter coming out of that draft and is still referenced to this day by Eatman and others is that Maranelli was skeptical of how Watt would hold up physically at DE.
I really don't think it was all Marinelli because he had worked with undersized DEs. Tony Dungy Tampa @ DEs were not huge players. They were fast and strong.


Jerry Dumbo Jones was on Randy Gregory's jock strap and could not let go. It hampered Taco's development.
 

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If we are still talking about the Taco versus TJ Watt draft in the same sentence as the mazi draft as if it's another Michigan draft pick that might have the same fate

that is not letting it go

tacos name should not be brought up anymore in these discussions is my point

unless somebody has an actual thread that literally says list all the draft mistakes we made, list them under here, his name needs to be stopped being brought up:huh::popcorn::eek:
So why are you bringing it up?
 

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not sure what you mean is that one of the best starts ever by a defensive end coming into the league he doesn't have anything to prove you in C needs to let that go somehow his name coming up in here is still confusing

Go log off you need a break or a timeout…..you are confused.
 

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Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the
Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.
Taco pick was not McClay.It was Marinelli and SJ.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...a-mistake-i-wish-we-wouldve-selected-him/amp/
 

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Will McClay knows what he is doing. Even the Taco Charlton pick is not as bad as people think. Taco got six years in the NFL and if he was allowed to develop like Randy Gregory was allowed to fail drug test, you do not know what he could have developed into as a DL.

Gil Brandt on Taco's Pro day » DE Taco Charlton (6-6, 271) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.83 and 4.85 saeconds (almost a tenth of a second faster than what he ran at the combine), and stood on the rest of his numbers from Indianapolis. He had a very good workout in which he was asked to drop into coverage as a linebacker. He helped himself.

I hope they give Mazi a real chance to be a real player. You cannot learn the game or know if the player can play on the sidelines.
Taco wasnt a bad pick? WHAT? LOL

He was a total and complete bust.
 
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