Mazi had Will in his corner

[CCBoy]

not sure what you mean is that one of the best starts ever by a defensive end coming into the league he doesn't have anything to prove you in C needs to let that go somehow his name coming up in here is still confusing

Ever? Go to Disney Land and ask for a job.

 

[CCBoy]

If we are still talking about the Taco versus TJ Watt draft in the same sentence as the mazi draft as if it's another Michigan draft pick that might have the same fate

that is not letting it go

tacos name should not be brought up anymore in these discussions is my point

unless somebody has an actual thread that literally says list all the draft mistakes we made, list them under here, his name needs to be stopped being brought up

Me, I like carne guisada tacos on homemade corn tortillas. Know what those are?

 

[dsturgeon]

We don’t get to see all of it, just what they choose for us to see. I’m glad we get to see some of it. It’s pretty interesting. We see more that we shouldn’t see during Hard Knocks.

Maybe jerry wanted it out there incase mazi doesn't do well this year, and there are issues on the oline

 

[dsturgeon]

and I don't think we should know anything about contract details either...

it convolutes what a fan should really be here for to talk about players and stats and wins and losses and discuss games.

it's gotten into major Muddy Waters with fans turning on players because of how much money they make. all of a sudden they're held to a different standard which they're not going to change as a player because they got paid,

they got paid because of what they did up to that point and that the team hopes they'll continue to do it but they earn that money... they didn't force the contract they got it but now fans see them in a different light and I think that that's the worst part of social media and the era of flooded information.

i agree

 

[eromeopolk]

Taco pick was not McClay.It was Marinelli and SJ.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...a-mistake-i-wish-we-wouldve-selected-him/amp/

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pushing-taco-charlton-over-tj-watt-nfl-draft

My comments were not about Taco vs. Wyatt. It was about making sure when you draft a player in the 1st round, you put him on the field. You do not mess around waiting on a dope head to be the next Charles Haley and you do not cut him before the 3 year rule after not making the football field show you he can or cannot play.

As for Taco, he's got his six years and is NFL vested. So to say he was a bust is just the stupid GM thinking that has the Arlington Jonesboys 27 years out the NFC Championship game.

As for McClay, he likes big school proven players on the field with position size and speed. Team Captains, playing experience, and position coach favorites out of college.

Mazi needs to play early and often. If the Jonesboys keep him in back up rotation, He will get his NFL vestment just like Taco except not in Dallas.

 

[CCBoy]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

They hiding the truth after making the pick? Tape delay...

 

[cmoney23]

Interesting insight into the Mazi back and forth between the Jones and Mcclay. Glad to have Will in that war room!

They released this right after the draft.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pushing-taco-charlton-over-tj-watt-nfl-draft

My comments were not about Taco vs. Wyatt. It was about making sure when you draft a player in the 1st round, you put him on the field. You do not mess around waiting on a dope head to be the next Charles Haley and you do not cut him before the 3 year rule after not making the football field show you he can or cannot play.

As for Taco, he's got his six years and is NFL vested. So to say he was a bust is just the stupid GM thinking that has the Arlington Jonesboys 27 years out the NFC Championship game.

As for McClay, he likes big school proven players on the field with position size and speed. Team Captains, playing experience, and position coach favorites out of college.

Mazi needs to play early and often. If the Jonesboys keep him in back up rotation, He will get his NFL vestment just like Taco except not in Dallas.

Agreed!

 

[EST_1986]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

It’s an entertainment business we should see it. We love it

 

[Typhus]

I love a good cheese enchilada!

Tex Mex doesn't need any meat on a cheese enchilada.

 

[Typhus]

Six games and get his feet wet....then build rotation.

It will build and come together, Mazi has the ability as a rook to evolve his peers.

 

[Typhus]

Me, I like carne guisada tacos on homemade corn tortillas. Know what those are?

Guisada just a bit better than asada.
That brown pepper gravy makes all the difference.
@Ranching should chime in, he knows also.

 

[CCBoy]

Tex Mex doesn't need any meat on a cheese enchilada.

Myself, I like a carne guisada taco on a home made corn tortilla with the enchiladas. My wife even likes them. She had no taste for Latina cuisine prior to us coming to Texas following military retirement in Kentucky. My first tamales was at age 6 and following picking cotton for the wife of a Bishop farmer. My first thought was mmmmmmm. My first job in the cotton field was pulling 3rd pick and 14 cents a pound...

The Grito for Cesar Chavez when he was in support of lettuce pickers was: Cesar....Chavez! Cesar....Chavez!....

 

[rambo2]

Maybe jerry wanted it out there incase mazi doesn't do well this year, and there are issues on the oline

Lol, no.

 

[Kingofholland]

I didn’t watch the guy in college all I saw was tape on him. And I know I saw plenty of mocks that had him as a 1st and second round pick. We are talking about a late 1st rounder. These are typically guys who can be 2nd round picks.

They didn’t just take him because he was tall and long lol. He was also athletic and productive in college. The trait that they couldn’t see was his heart and his hunger. Those traits don’t show up on tape in college. You either have it or you don’t.


NFL.com had him graded out as a “pro bowl talent”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/taco-charlton/32004348-4164-6504-2f6f-045a92e67e87

Kiper had him going 19th to the Buccs.

Taco will always rank up there as one of the Cowboys bigger busts. However, Taco and Watt were graded very similarly coming out of college. Both had 1 great year of production in college, however Taco contributed more the prior previous seasons. Watt was also more of a tweaner size, while Taco looked more like a fit for Marinelli. Truthfully I remember wanting Takk thinking he would be the best of the group, lol.

29 others passed on Watt.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Maranelli and his scheme held too much sway with the FO. The chatter coming out of that draft and is still referenced to this day by Eatman and others is that Maranelli was skeptical of how Watt would hold up physically at DE.

Used to seem like Jerry on a "and one for you and one for you and one for you..."

Not being a player expert himself, he let coaches pick who they wanted on a rotational basis.

The more control McClay has, the better. Coaches with a 10 year contract can pick their own groceries, not short timers.

 

[blueblood70]

Go log off you need a break or a timeout…..you are confused.

Nope not like all threads that seem to lead back to dak, all defensive talk on drafts lead back to taco. Talk Mazi, that is in fact the title thread and it spins off topic real fast.

What's crazy is we should talk about how awful the front office has been for 27 years we've been looking for a Hall of Fame quarterback that could be called the goat and he was sitting there for six rounds and we somehow dropped the ball shame
what a transition that would have been to go from Troy Aikman and getting Tom Brady in the 2000 draft over getting Quincy Carter in 2001 mayhem the front office should be hung for not getting one Tom Brady how could they let him fall 6 rounds without picking him up.. Man flower in hypothetical twilight zone why don't we get on the front office for making the mistakes for all these drafts since the year 1999 I mean we've been wanting to replace Prescott for how many years and damn we could have had Brock Purdy it's the last player picked in the draft how could they pass him up I mean I guess they passed him up like the entire league passed him up same thing with Tom Brady same thing with undrafted players like Kurt Warner and Tony Romo and so many others I can't remember and yes we can go back to the first round like I already brought up two names there were so many bad picks taken before TJ but that other teams made the same mistake we did.

Look I understand that you've said that picking Taco wasn't a big mistake he just turned out to be bad and all that but that's not everyone's tune here they act like we're the only ones ever make a mistake in the draft and pass up on TJ Watt or any other player for that matter there's a whole bunch of players in the first round that are bus every year especially at quarterback but other positions as well you go back to that draft there's at least five or six guys that were taking before TJ Watt that all worked total busts .

. Just like Taco they were overdrafted and it allowed a player like TJ to slip...

 

[blueblood70]

Ever? Go to Disney Land and ask for a job.

Ever try to get an actual real job with a real sports media you know maybe go work for a real sports team so maybe your opinion would mean more I mean you keep coming in here with that nonsense and you're picking on the wrong damn player this dude is historically good already go back and look there's been studies already for a man who's only played two seasons in the league as a pass rushing outside linebacker or defensive end.. He already earned his spot in the NFL and where he was taking in the draft if he gets better that's just the cherry on top but the dude has nothing to prove to you or anybody else because the league already looks at him as a top five defensive player I'm not sure how much further you can go up than top five except maintain your top five status some say he's the number one pass rusher in the league right now but that's always debatable because you have true defensive ends that are full time over there that get better sack numbers but he is not a full time defensive end

but I find it laughable I mean that you think that I'm in some kind of Disneyland when I believe that your heads in the clouds I mean do you think see things in cartoons I think that's how you see things because again you're picking on the wrong player you wanna go to players and say they need to take the next step because they haven't shown much you have to go to other players like tolbert who did squat last year. There's a laundry list of players that need to step up that need to get better and like I said even if somehow Parsons get better that's fine but anything you're saying as far as him needing to prove himself is insanity you're the one who needs to get a job at Disneyland because if you feel somehow your opinion in this forum on Parsons is correct and that you're gonna stand strong for 17 more pages trying to prove that then you're the one in fantasyland, that's not the way most fans see him and that's not the way I see him and that's not the way the media sees him or anyone else this dude 's already top level top shelf premium player who is picked 12th overall and got a third round pick tied with him he has nothing else to prove except for maintain what he's done the first two seasons.. he literally has elevated everyone around him he's made Dan Quinn look better the man draws double and triple teams and he's still able to get double digit sacks he's already cemented his spot in the NFL as long as he can maintain this he does not need to get better in my opinion if he gets better that's great but in no way no shape or form does anybody think that he needs to improve in order to prove himself worthy of what pick #12 and already historically it's already top level comparing to other players in his position over the last decade or more,

 

[blueblood70]

i agree

TY!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nope not like all threads that seem to lead back to dak, all defensive talk on drafts lead back to taco. Talk Mazi, that is in fact the title thread and it spins off topic real fast.

What's crazy is we should talk about how awful the front office has been for 27 years we've been looking for a Hall of Fame quarterback that could be called the goat and he was sitting there for six rounds and we somehow dropped the ball shame
what a transition that would have been to go from Troy Aikman and getting Tom Brady in the 2000 draft over getting Quincy Carter in 2001 mayhem the front office should be hung for not getting one Tom Brady how could they let him fall 6 rounds without picking him up.. Man flower in hypothetical twilight zone why don't we get on the front office for making the mistakes for all these drafts since the year 1999 I mean we've been wanting to replace Prescott for how many years and damn we could have had Brock Purdy it's the last player picked in the draft how could they pass him up I mean I guess they passed him up like the entire league passed him up same thing with Tom Brady same thing with undrafted players like Kurt Warner and Tony Romo and so many others I can't remember and yes we can go back to the first round like I already brought up two names there were so many bad picks taken before TJ but that other teams made the same mistake we did.

Look I understand that you've said that picking Taco wasn't a big mistake he just turned out to be bad and all that but that's not everyone's tune here they act like we're the only ones ever make a mistake in the draft and pass up on TJ Watt or any other player for that matter there's a whole bunch of players in the first round that are bus every year especially at quarterback but other positions as well you go back to that draft there's at least five or six guys that were taking before TJ Watt that all worked total busts .

. Just like Taco they were overdrafted and it allowed a player like TJ to slip...

I get what you’re saying I’m just trying to get across to you that you’re preaching to the choir. There’s a group of guys here who will never let it go. But I knew to let it go because I understood had we taken Watt we may not have Parsons, may not have Lamb or Diggs…..