Mazi had Will in his corner

[stilltheguru]

I didn’t watch the guy in college all I saw was tape on him. And I know I saw plenty of mocks that had him as a 1st and second round pick. We are talking about a late 1st rounder. These are typically guys who can be 2nd round picks.

They didn’t just take him because he was tall and long lol. He was also athletic and productive in college. The trait that they couldn’t see was his heart and his hunger. Those traits don’t show up on tape in college. You either have it or you don’t.


NFL.com had him graded out as a “pro bowl talent”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/taco-charlton/32004348-4164-6504-2f6f-045a92e67e87

Kiper had him going 19th to the Buccs.

People like to revise history alot on here. Alot of so called experts liked him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think about this too. If we wouldn't have traded our first round pick in 1989 to take Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft, we could have had Junior Seau or Cortez Kennedy AND Emmitt Smith.
But having two first round picks may have altered whether we would have taken Emmitt Smith later in the first round.
We simply can't know, so it becomes an exercise in futility to anguish over what may have been.

You don’t know but even then who knows. I’m sure some would rather have Watt than Micah.

Maybe they draft Slater instead of Micah? Watt and Slater or Micah? Ehh…never know how these things work out.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

There's always one lol.

This is just a PR piece, they didn't really say anything.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

People like to revise history alot on here. Alot of so called experts liked him.

Yeah that’s insane. I don’t know why fans freak out over bad picks or flips especially when the team drafts well lol. They made a mistake on passing up Watt. But Taco was a legit 28th overall pick. Thinking he was really a 4th or 5th taken in the first is some BS.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There's always one lol.

This is just a PR piece, they didn't really say anything.

For the life of me I don’t get why people don’t like to see this stuff. As if it gives our competitors some edge lol.

 

[Pass2Run]

I didn’t watch the guy in college all I saw was tape on him. And I know I saw plenty of mocks that had him as a 1st and second round pick. We are talking about a late 1st rounder. These are typically guys who can be 2nd round picks.

They didn’t just take him because he was tall and long lol. He was also athletic and productive in college. The trait that they couldn’t see was his heart and his hunger. Those traits don’t show up on tape in college. You either have it or you don’t.


NFL.com had him graded out as a “pro bowl talent”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/taco-charlton/32004348-4164-6504-2f6f-045a92e67e87

Kiper had him going 19th to the Buccs.

Yet when they drafted Hill, Marinelli said he lives and breathes football.

Guy was a moron. So glad we have DQ and McC.

 

[KJJ]

I’m glad he didn’t have Rod Marinelli in his corner.

 

[rambo2]

Not since the Manster. Big shoes to fill though.

Makes the Manster look like peewee.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yet when they drafted Hill, Marinelli said he lives and breathes football.

Guy was a moron. So glad we have DQ and McC.

Haha yeah Maranelli….lived off that reputation for far too long.

 

[KJJ]

I do not think we should see all this stuff. It should be a closed door thing

We don’t get to see all of it, just what they choose for us to see. I’m glad we get to see some of it. It’s pretty interesting. We see more that we shouldn’t see during Hard Knocks.

 

[Zman5]

As I like to say, "Where there is Will, there is a way.".

 

[blueblood70]

Well for starters it wasn’t 10 years ago but I don’t care that they missed on Watt or Taco flopped. It happens. Life goes on. Teams miss out on first rounders every year.

I’m just explaining why it stung for some. Watt was the right pick and I believe Maranelli didn’t like scheme fit so factor that in? Yeah fans will be upset. It happens.

let it go

however long its been IE 6years ,its not factor for our team RIGHT NOW

do I have to keep repeating myself if they would have done something different way back then it would have changed what we have right now, so just let it go seriously..

again, do i have to keep repeating myself if....right now

so just let it go...

seriously,

OK,

so the Steelers who drafted him after another 20 something teams passed him up have since won 60 lost 36 games and only made the playoffs three times and they're 0-3 in those playoff games.
the last two seasons 18-15-1 record

so as great as TJ Watt has been he has not helped them past the divisional round really, lost in the wild card rounds, so one players not gonna make that big a difference, again we stay in the now and the Cowboys are what since 2017?

57-41 that's a 3 game swing LOL and add to it we also have only been to the playoffs three times and not made it past the divisional round in the same time frame. However, now the last two seasons the Cowboys are 24-10 in the regular season, made the playoffs in back-to-back years and like listed above they're 18-15-1 and they have missed the playoffs the last two years..

they have a better coach correct? Apparently according to this place probably have a better GM and a better owner..

did TJ watt alone transform the PB since 2017 and i'm going to have to say no.. But back to staying in the now, we're obviously in a better spot than they are the last two seasons and how much are they paying TJ Watt now 35 million a year and we have Micah Parsons which we might not have on a rookie contract right now we have the better team the last two seasons.
.

Yes it's time to let it go if that's not enough info for you then I can't help you you're one of those people that can't let things go the fan base it's over with we have a very good pass rush now and on a much cheaper deal with a brighter future from here on.

 

[blueblood70]

I didn’t watch the guy in college all I saw was tape on him. And I know I saw plenty of mocks that had him as a 1st and second round pick. We are talking about a late 1st rounder. These are typically guys who can be 2nd round picks.

They didn’t just take him because he was tall and long lol. He was also athletic and productive in college. The trait that they couldn’t see was his heart and his hunger. Those traits don’t show up on tape in college. You either have it or you don’t.


NFL.com had him graded out as a “pro bowl talent”

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/taco-charlton/32004348-4164-6504-2f6f-045a92e67e87

Kiper had him going 19th to the Buccs.

And yet they took OJ Howard they tight end instead why I guess OJ Howard was projected to go top 10 so they took him in sick because he was higher on the board and TJ Watt do I have to remind you who had the better career but why the Cowboys are not alone in passing up TJ Watt of course yes Taco was a bust I don't think OJ Howard's done much more I mean I'm sure if we want to go through that whole entire draft we can find other people who reached and passed up on what I mean Green Bay Packers were supposed to take him too and they took some corner that didn't turn out to be any good either this is just how drafts go TJ Watt was overlooked in the Steelers that lucky he just fell to them..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

let it go

however long its been IE 6years ,its not factor for our team RIGHT NOW

do I have to keep repeating myself if they would have done something different way back then it would have changed what we have right now, so just let it go seriously..

again, do i have to keep repeating myself if....right now

so just let it go...

seriously,

OK,

so the Steelers who drafted him after another 20 something teams passed him up have since won 60 lost 36 games and only made the playoffs three times and they're 0-3 in those playoff games.
the last two seasons 18-15-1 record

so as great as TJ Watt has been he has not helped them past the divisional round really, lost in the wild card rounds, so one players not gonna make that big a difference, again we stay in the now and the Cowboys are what since 2017?

57-41 that's a 3 game swing LOL and add to it we also have only been to the playoffs three times and not made it past the divisional round in the same time frame. However, now the last two seasons the Cowboys are 24-10 in the regular season, made the playoffs in back-to-back years and like listed above they're 18-15-1 and they have missed the playoffs the last two years..

they have a better coach correct? Apparently according to this place probably have a better GM and a better owner..

did TJ watt alone transform the PB since 2017 and i'm going to have to say no.. But back to staying in the now, we're obviously in a better spot than they are the last two seasons and how much are they paying TJ Watt now 35 million a year and we have Micah Parsons which we might not have on a rookie contract right now we have the better team the last two seasons.
.

Yes it's time to let it go if that's not enough info for you then I can't help you you're one of those people that can't let things go the fan base it's over with we have a very good pass rush now and on a much cheaper deal with a brighter future from here on.

I'm not reading all of this. I verbatim said I don't care if they missed out on him. It was in the 1st sentence. So just copy and paste this and save it for the next WAtt discussion. It will happen again.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And yet they took OJ Howard they tight end instead why I guess OJ Howard was projected to go top 10 so they took him in sick because he was higher on the board and TJ Watt do I have to remind you who had the better career but why the Cowboys are not alone in passing up TJ Watt of course yes Taco was a bust I don't think OJ Howard's done much more I mean I'm sure if we want to go through that whole entire draft we can find other people who reached and passed up on what I mean Green Bay Packers were supposed to take him too and they took some corner that didn't turn out to be any good either this is just how drafts go TJ Watt was overlooked in the Steelers that lucky he just fell to them..

What's your point?

 

[blueblood70]

What's your point?

If you don't know my point by now you obviously are not paying attention let it go that's my point it's been over six years and I gave you all the stats other teams passed up TJ Watt for lesser players we all blew it

 

[blueblood70]

I'm not reading all of this. I verbatim said I don't care if they missed out on him. It was in the 1st sentence. So just copy and paste this and save it for the next WAtt discussion. It will happen again.

If you're not gonna read it then maybe I should have drawn pictures for you is that more your speed

say whenever a poster does that, says they're not gonna read it, it means they failed, they got beat and they know it and you lose..sorry bud

TJ did not transform the Pittsburgh Steelers, they have not got out of the divisional round and lost the last three playoff games,, only been to the playoffs three out of the last six and their last two seasons have been losing seasons, basically. Ouch that 35mil hes making must sting.

while ours have been 25 and 10 b2b layoff appearances, we're playing great now without him he did not make the Pittsburgh Steelers a championship team we don't know how he would have affected our team, that's my point

if you're not going to read it it's because you know you're wrong because you can't let it go.. Might want to check your estrogen levels because. I bet your testosterone levels are way down sounds like you're going to cry...

 

[beware_d-ware]

The weird thing about Taco is that he wasn't actually a terrible prospect. I don't think he was a 1st round caliber player, but his draft profile says more like Armstrong-ish average rotational DE than flameout.

-1 TFL/game in his final two years is good.
-95 Speed Score is average. 4.92 40 is slow but 277 lbs is big.
-His overall athletic testing was average and pretty well-rounded. Average is a bad thing at a hugely explosion-driven position, so that would scare me away from using a premium pick.
-2 year starter at Michigan with no injuries, and took a step forward as a senior.

The one glaring red flag on his resume is the 4.92 40. That is really, really slow for an edge rusher. I haven't seen a threshold 40 time for an edge rusher, but that's got to be under it.

If a fellow named Enchilada Charlton came into the draft this year with those stats, I would probably draft him in the 50-70 zone with an eye towards moving him inside. He wouldn't be playing RE for me, it'd be more of a Chris Jones type role.

 

[CCBoy]

One just can't have too many good corner men when in the ring!

 

[CCBoy]

The weird thing about Taco is that he wasn't actually a terrible prospect. I don't think he was a 1st round caliber player, but his draft profile says more like Armstrong-ish average rotational DE than flameout.

-1 TFL/game in his final two years is good.
-95 Speed Score is average. 4.92 40 is slow but 277 lbs is big.
-His overall athletic testing was average and pretty well-rounded. Average is a bad thing at a hugely explosion-driven position, so that would scare me away from using a premium pick.
-2 year starter at Michigan with no injuries, and took a step forward as a senior.

The one glaring red flag on his resume is the 4.92 40. That is really, really slow for an edge rusher. I haven't seen a threshold 40 time for an edge rusher, but that's got to be under it.

If a fellow named Enchilada Charlton came into the draft this year with those stats, I would probably draft him in the 50-70 zone with an eye towards moving him inside. He wouldn't be playing RE for me, it'd be more of a Chris Jones type role.

I love a good cheese enchilada!