Mazi has work to do

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I don't care what you hate and the game is the game.
If a team tries to establish the run to get an easy 3rd, but you stop it...
You set yourself up for more success than not.

If a team comes out passing and the DT can collapse, or hold for the others...
You set yourself up for success.

Did you actually read what I just wrote?

Modern run games are built so that eating a double team doesn't matter much. They don't run 24 power. They run to numbers advantages and create movement so that even if a DT does eat a double, it doesn't matter much. The point is that the skillset of an effective 1T doesn't matter, especially on first-down plays against a good offense likely to throw the ball.

 

[Corso]

Did you actually read what I just wrote?

Modern run games are built so that eating a double team doesn't matter much. They don't run 24 power. They run to numbers advantages and create movement so that even if a DT does eat a double, it doesn't matter much. The point is that the skillset of an effective 1T doesn't matter, especially on first-down plays against a good offense likely to throw the ball.

I do like how you came in as an overbearing expert.
It's nice that you're not a complete jerk about it.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Your second round pick had 3 days of practice and just played in an NFL game. FyI, he was impressive last night. Can we at least give a guy a few months into an NFL career?

I think the name of this post is correct, he does have work to do. The main thing is learning to pressure the QB, but on one heck of a good note. He kept our linebackers clean all night. If he does what he what he did Saturday, this defense will be infinitely better against the run from the beginning of the season. Hes equipped to be a key addition right now. We knew coming in what he was, with the potential to becoming a whole lot more. The whole lot more is icing on the cake to me. I love the pick from what is saw.

 

[Ken]

No.

Watch him get blown off the ball at 1:39.



He had good reps and bad reps.

He literally made the tackle 2 yards off the LOS with 2.5 guys blocking him. You want to see blown off the ball? Watch any game that Galimore played last year, consistently was blown off the ball 5 yards....

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He literally made the tackle 2 yards off the LOS with 2.5 guys blocking him. You want to see blown off the ball? Watch any game that Galimore played last year, consistently was blown off the ball 5 yards....

What are you talking about? He's blown out of the hole and nowhere in the play.

This hyperbole about Gallimore is why the conversation about Mazi is so ridiculous. Independent of the how many times a player got blown off the ball - is there a functional difference between 3 and 5? No. This happens to every DT when there is a committed double.

 

[Corso]

What are you talking about? He's blown out of the hole and nowhere in the play.

This hyperbole about Gallimore is why the conversation about Mazi is so ridiculous. Independent of the how many times a player got blown off the ball - is there a functional difference between 3 and 5? No. This happens to every DT when there is a committed double.

I like this guy.
He's so sure of himself in his narrow corridors.

 

[plasticman]

I read many differing opinions on how Mazi performed from great to poor. These are successful bloggers and media paid analysts.
I'm shocked that opinions are so diverse.

I suppose it depends on perspective and which attributes were being observed. I suppose a few could be agenda driven.

DT is one of the positions that can't be judged by stats. Their success is in making it easier for their teammates to acquire the stats.

Their function these days is to primarily get in the way, force extra attention by the blockers, and buy time for the cavalry to arrive.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I like this guy.
He's so sure of himself in his narrow corridors.

Good one. It's easy to be sure of myself when correct, and when there's very easy video to watch to show it.

You can't admit that the game is different than it was 30 years ago, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but you're not narrowminded. Sure. "The value of a DT is unquantifiable"...but so is snake oil.

 

[Buzzbait]

The “eats space” idea isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

Mazi does a lot more than just eat space. Games are won or lost in the trenches. You don't find talent like Mazi at Home Depot. The Cowboys made two great choices for our defense when they drafted Mazi and Overshown, and neither one would've been around much longer than they were. Our defense is going to prove their worth this year.
The eagles are going to hate our defense this year.

 

[viman96]

All I did was point out that Mazi had a quiet first outing, and was met with passive aggressive, sideways accusations that I don't know football, or what I'm talking about.

What was I supposed to say for a guy who had just 1 tackle all night while the Jags out gained us on the ground by 50 yards or so? A first round pick should have at least had 5 to 8 tackles last night.

5 to 8 tackles based on what? You have no idea what the coaching staff asked him to do. Watching the game it seemed Jags were very concerned with Mazi because they were double and triple teaming him. Mazi would beat his 1 on 1 matchups.

 

[Rayman70]

The “eats space” idea isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

do we know that yet? Can we at least wait and see? It seems to work all over the league, why not here? IE ...Seattle, Tama Bay, San Fran, Baltimore. The Eagles, Rams.

 

[Rayman70]

The “eats space” idea isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

If 1 fatty is being doubled or tripled in the middle, thats a great thing, right? occupying bodies in the trenches is the name of the game.

 

[Corso]

Good one. It's easy to be sure of myself when correct, and when there's very easy video to watch to show it.

You can't admit that the game is different than it was 30 years ago, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but you're not narrowminded. Sure. "The value of a DT is unquantifiable"...but so is snake oil.

See? I love this guy!

 

[Rayman70]

The “eats space” idea isn’t worth a 1st round pick.

its worth 2 first rd picks actually if we make a SB run.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I read many differing opinions on how Mazi performed from great to poor. These are successful bloggers and media paid analysts.
I'm shocked that opinions are so diverse.

I am shocked too.

The bottom line for me is this: The Cowboys and DQ think he fits their scheme and solves problems with their defense.

That's good enough for me!

 

[Buzzbait]

I think 2-3 years is still the norm....maybe less for a first rounder. But we are talking first month of real NFL action. Gotta give the guy a break.
Film breakdown on him shows he was constantly eating double teams and freeing up other players.

Yeah but, but, but, he didn't throw any TD passes!
You're exactly right FC, the proof was on the film. Like you said, he was "constantly eating double teams" freeing up LBs.
Mazi does the dirty work and makes everybody around him look better.

 

[Buzzbait]

No.

Watch him get blown off the ball at 1:39.

Mac, Yes Mazi was double teamed to keep him away from the ball carrier, but what you didn't mention was that double team on Mazi shorted Jax on blockers for their RB. Consequently 2 Cowboy defenders closed in on the RB and held him to what appeared to about 1 yd gain. Wow! Lets double team Mazi so we can get a 1 yd gain?
That's what Mazi does, he makes the other Cowboys around him better. They have to double team him which takes pressure off of other defenders like our LBs.
Say what you like, but Mazi was a great 1st round pick.

 

[Jimbo123]

Mazi does a lot more than just eat space. Games are won or lost in the trenches. You don't find talent like Mazi at Home Depot. The Cowboys made two great choices for our defense when they drafted Mazi and Overshown, and neither one would've been around much longer than they were. Our defense is going to prove their worth this year.
The eagles are going to hate our defense this year.

Kelse's going to take him behind the wood shed.

 

[Buzzbait]

Kelse's going to take him behind the wood shed.

Is that hoping or predicting, or both?

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Mazi has to get quicker. He looked fatigued.