McCarthy on Kellen Moore leaving

Hawkeye19

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That's funny..Kellen Moore was doing just that with Cooper Rush and winning games. Didn't the owner/GM, McCarthy, Dak, and most of the fans here say we need to put up 40 burgers instead? Now it's celebrated as a concept hmmm
We won because of the D during those games my dude… lol. Cooper drove the bus, but they really scaled everything back while he was under center.

Once Dak got back, the production— and mistakes!!— went WAY up. Dak has admitted he gets greedy and aggressive.

If he and Kellen are guilty of anything, it is pride. They believed they could play Madden and put up the numbers, so they adapted a risky style of offense instead of working off the ground game and D like they should have.

This is why Kellen is gone. Not because he isn’t a talented OC— but because he was unwilling to heed what was in the best interests of helping this team win and I think he disregarded MM’s approach and there were too many cooks in the kitchen.

I also think he was unwilling to challenge his BFF Dak, and that by itself, really hurt this team bc Dak went off script far too often.

I am not saying the results in Jan will necessarily be any different, but I agree philosophically with the changes Mike is trying to implement.

And no, Cooper Rush is not as good a QB as Dak Prescott lol
 

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So fat Mike is in essence bashing Moore for passing a lot yet he is the HC and could have easily switched things up....but the fact is fat Mike got his orders from Jerry to let Dak throw because of the money he is paying him.

This blaming Moore is pathetic but all too familiar with this lazy, dysfunctional organization.

PS

Oh, and Dallas was ranked 19th in TOP for 2021 and 22nd in TOP for 2022 but now fat Mike has a problem with not running the ball and controlling the clock???? He is such a baffoon and admitted liar given that is how he got the job.
 

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"I love KM so much that i needed him gone so we can get better" interesting take.
 

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That's funny..Kellen Moore was doing just that with Cooper Rush and winning games. Didn't the owner/GM, McCarthy, Dak, and most of the fans here say we need to put up 40 burgers instead? Now it's celebrated as a concept hmmm
Outstanding post.
Gonna be fun to see all of this play out.
 

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So fat Mike is in essence bashing Moore for passing a lot yet he is the HC and could have easily switched things up....but the fact is fat Mike got his orders from Jerry to let Dak throw because of the money he is paying him.

This blaming Moore is pathetic but all too familiar with this lazy, dysfunctional organization.
Now this is the real situation.
Sad but true.
 

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Let’s play football like it’s 1995.. Yay..

Imagine relying on defense in 2024 when the league has made all the rules anti-defense.
Yup, definitely an archaic way of going about an offense in this era of football. The run game should be used when you have a lead and to set up the pass. Might work in the regular season, but trying to go into the playoffs and win against good teams with a run 1st offense is an uphill battle at best.
 

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Absolutely. But success starts with an accurate diagnosis of assets/deficits, strengths/weaknesses, skills/limitations etc…

I am not saying we have a “good” chance at winning a championship with Dak Prescott, but I am saying that our best chance would be to build a top 3 D, and get back to a reined-in Dak that thrived off a good running game and managed a playoff caliber offense in 2016.

Mike is at least speaking in that direction. Of course he has to overcome Jerry and Son to do it— but in theory, this is the correct direction to pursue if the franchise is unwilling to move on from Dak.

Of course, in theory communism works, so yah, there ya go lol
Oh, I agree with everything you say here trust me.
Its just that knowing McCarthy's history as a playcaller and all the supposed interest in acquiring more receiving options makes me leery of believing any of it.

I'm at the head of the line in having Dak throw less and run more like 2016 but again, seeing is believing.

jmo
 

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So fat Mike is in essence bashing Moore for passing a lot yet he is the HC and could have easily switched things up....but the fact is fat Mike got his orders from Jerry to let Dak throw because of the money he is paying him.

This blaming Moore is pathetic but all too familiar with this lazy, dysfunctional organization.

PS

Oh, and Dallas was ranked 19th in TOP for 2021 and 22nd in TOP for 2022 but now fat Mike has a problem with not running the ball and controlling the clock???? He is such a baffoon and admitted liar given that is how he got the job.
Like all HCs of the Dallas Cowboys— Mike inherited the Jones family and their “ways”. They were committed to Kellen and Mike had to go along with it in order to take the job.

He did it “their way” for 3 years, and has prevailed and now gets to do it “his way” with the offense. Kind of— lol. He still has to overcome the Jones Boys every step of the way.

And if you are gonna blame Mike because he is the HC, then who gets credit for back to back 12 win seasons? NO HC has done that in 30 years…

And no— I am not a MM apologist. The guy has his flaws, but I am saying the deck has been stacked against him and he definitely deserves more credit than he gets.
 

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More proof that fat Mike is a liar and wanted Moore gone for nothing to do with running the ball. Here is the GB rushing attempts ranking by years that fat Mike was the HC:

2006: 21st
2007: 28th
2008: 14th
2009: 15th
2010: 20th
2011: 26th
2012: 16th
2013: 12th
2014: 14th
2015: 12th
2016: 29th
2017: 27th
2018: 32nd

So an average position of 20th after 13 seasons as the HC in GB.....oh, and here are the Cowboys rushing attempts rankings by year since fat Mike has been the HC:

2020: 15th
2021: 12th
2022: 6th

So in 3 years in Dallas, with Kellen Moore as the OC who according to fat lying Mike just wants to pass the ball, the average was 11th for rushing attempts.

Bottom line: fat Mike was liar to get this job and fat Mike is a liar to keep this job.
 

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That's funny..Kellen Moore was doing just that with Cooper Rush and winning games. Didn't the owner/GM, McCarthy, Dak, and most of the fans here say we need to put up 40 burgers instead? Now it's celebrated as a concept hmmm
Yep,
I remember it well last year. Several here including myself mentioned "winning ugly" over winning with stats as a good thing.

Now,
some people all of a sudden want to return to a 2016 offense that Linehan was run outta town for.
Just maybe Linehan knew that protecting a limited mobile QB with a dominant oline, dynamic RB and timely play action was exactly what was needed, huh?

The thing now is that oline, RB or mobile QB don't exist anymore.

But at least it's fun to say they're gonna try and go back to that way of playing.

So there's that.

smh
 

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More proof that fat Mike is a liar and wanted Moore gone for nothing to do with running the ball. Here is the GB rushing attempts ranking by years that fat Mike was the HC:

2006: 21st
2007: 28th
2008: 14th
2009: 15th
2010: 20th
2011: 26th
2012: 16th
2013: 12th
2014: 14th
2015: 12th
2016: 29th
2017: 27th
2018: 32nd

So an average position of 20th after 13 seasons as the HC in GB.....oh, and here are the Cowboys rushing attempts rankings by year since fat Mike has been the HC:

2020: 15th
2021: 12th
2022: 6th

So in 3 years in Dallas, with Kellen Moore as the OC who according to fat lying Mike just wants to pass the ball, the average was 11th for rushing attempts.

Bottom line: fat Mike was liar to get this job and fat Mike is a liar to keep this job.
Some times ya just gotta call a spade a spade.
 

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The #1 offense by PPG just won a Super bowl against the #2 offense by PPG. McCarthy is an idiot.
 

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Mike is a pure yes man happy to have a job
the puppet master is JJ and his son.... Mike just has the title
if JJ wants KM back big Mike will say ( i am happy to be with KM again and i am sure he will do great job bla bla bla)
 

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This is what we should have been doing. As mentioned before, if anything, the one big positive from Mike is clearing the house of the Jerry proteges. I don't think Kellen was bad... just inexperienced... but I don't want to suffer for the next half decade while he learns the nuances of being an OC in the playoffs.
 

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Yup, definitely an archaic way of going about an offense in this era of football. The run game should be used when you have a lead and to set up the pass. Might work in the regular season, but trying to go into the playoffs and win against good teams with a run 1st offense is an uphill battle at best.
It screams… We have to figure out how to win with a QB we overpaid.
 
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