McFadden vs Morris

[Galian Beast]

Here are some key stats that I think everyone should take a look at.

Despite McFadden coming into the league in 2008, because of his injury history he has a total of 1277 carries. Alfred Morris has 1078.

McFadden has 45 runs of 20 yards or more and 11 of 40 yards or more. Morris has 32 and 2 respectively.

I'm sure people are ready to say that McFadden is the way to get because of the speed burst he has over Morris... Let me ask you to hold off for a moment.

We establish that McFadden has 199 carries more than Morris. Well, Morris has 220 first downs to McFadden's 226. He has just as many first downs with about 200 carries less than McFadden... He also has 29 touchdowns to McFadden's 28.

Morris has a career average of 4.4 yards per carry whereas McFadden has a 4.2.

Imagine how much these numbers shift if you take out the 239 carries that McFadden had behind the Cowboy offensive line... That takes away 52 first downs.

I would say that the slight burst advantage that McFadden gives you isn't anywhere near valuable enough to play him over Morris.

Where I will tip my hat to McFadden is that he is a more well-rounded running back than Morris. He can catch out of the backfield. He is a threat in space. The problem here is that I think you have a much more viable threat in space with Dunbar than McFadden.

Ultimately, I don't see McFadden having a spot on this team.

 

[Aven8]

Missing stat. Morris has never missed a game with 64 straight.

 

[Galian Beast]

Missing stat. Morris has never missed a game with 64 straight.

Sorry, I thought it was implied by his production vs McFadden's. Morris is right behind him despite playing about half the years... He's just a better running back at this point. McFadden doesn't fit the scheme here, but Morris fits it perfectly. He'll have a strong year.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

McFadden playing without a competent QB (Romo) to keep defenses honest cannot be overstated.

 

[erod]

McFadden = power running scheme RB with long injury history

Morris = zone blocking scheme RB who never gets hurt

Bye, McFadden.

 

[Doomsday101]

At 5'10" 224 lbs I think Morris is the more physical guy, I like both guys I do think Morris brings more power to the run game and I think it would compliment Zeke game

 

[erod]

Zeke = the star bell cow

Morris = the durable backup with great attitude that can spell Zeke in the SAME blocking scheme

Dunbar = the stellar 3rd down open space guy with HR potential

Jackson = the cheap special teamer who shows great promise and is similar in style to Morris

McFadden = the veteran who plays no special teams and requires a different blocking scheme


Which is the odd man out?

 

[Aven8]

Sorry, I thought it was implied by his production vs McFadden's. Morris is right behind him despite playing about half the years... He's just a better running back at this point. McFadden doesn't fit the scheme here, but Morris fits it perfectly. He'll have a strong year.

Yes you did and right now Dmac is a luxury IMO. In fact I hope we Pup him and use him as insurance, or a possible trade scenario once healthy and in season. He's cheap and if we got a 6th or 7th it would be well worth it, or use him if one of our backs go down.

 

[CowboyChris]

those stats dont tell the whole story, remember McFadden was on some awful teams in Oakland. there are both expendable.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Zeke = the star bell cow

Morris = the durable backup with great attitude that can spell Zeke in the SAME blocking scheme

Dunbar = the stellar 3rd down open space guy with HR potential

Jackson = the cheap special teamer who shows great promise and is similar in style to Morris

McFadden = the veteran who plays no special teams and requires a different blocking scheme


Which is the odd man out?

McFadden = Most complete back on the roster.

 

[KJJ]

Would take Morris any day over McFadden he has great vision and a nose for the end zone.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Would take Morris any day over McFadden he has great vision and has a nose for the end zone.

Yeah, he set the world on fire with 1 TD on his 202 carries last year.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah, he set the world on fire with 1 TD on his 202 carries last year.

Washington changed their offense from when Morris was a rookie once they started phasing out RG3. He was splitting carries last season in an offense that didn't fit him. He's going to excel behind our OL when given opportunities we've seen glimpses of it this preseason.

 

[Bullflop]

I wouldn't be at all surprised at all if either McFadden or Dunbar were to become the odd man out in the final cuts. Much will depend upon how both of them perform (if able) and obviously, how Darius Jackson performs in the meantime. It should be extremely interesting -- may the best man win.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Washington changed their offense from when Morris was a rookie once they started phasing out RG3. He was splitting carries last season in an offense that didn't fit him. He's going to excel behind our OL when given opportunities we've seen glimpses of it this preseason.

So what you're saying is there are apparently valid reasons why Morris' TD numbers went down. I could buy that.

Yet, there's no consideration as to how not having Romo under center (or Dez in the offense) impacted McFadden's scoring opportunities in the red zone? McFadden had 30 less red zone opportunities in 2015 than Murray did in 2014 with a healthy Romo; when your offense can't move the ball between the 20s or convert 3rd downs, you're not going to have a whole lotta scoring opportunities.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I have posted many stats showing Mcfadden isn't special......quick stat Morris has a year TD average of 7.5 despite only having 1 last year

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I have posted many stats showing Mcfadden isn't special......quick stat Morris has a year TD average of 7.5 despite only having 1 last year

And your abuse of the statistics is comical.

You're using the number of average touchdown scored-per-season a (which is a meaningless statistic outside the realm of fantasy football) to hide Morris' low number last season.

 

[The Natural]

Would be an easier decision if they didnt draft jackson

 

[irishline]

McFadden = Most complete back on the roster.

"Here are the numbers for you to do with what you like: In 2015, Darren McFadden was given the ball 183 times on zone running plays and racked up 668 yards. This averages out to 3.65 yards per carry on a team that generally gets 5 yards a carry on these plays. On the old man-blocking plays with pulling guards and such, he ran 56 times for 442 yards for a whopping 7.89 yards per carry. So, the scheme the Cowboys run was half as productive as the scheme McFadden fits the best."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...wboys-snag-alfred-morris-run-scheme-low-price

The Cowboys had to alter their running scheme for McFadden last year. He has always had trouble running in a zone blocking system. So how would he be the most complete back in a system where he is the only back that does not excel in it? Why keep one back that needs a different system than the rest of your team to be successful? Are you going to have the offensive line run two systems that change depending upon which back is in the game? Short answer. You Wouldn't.

McFadden = power running scheme RB with long injury history

Morris = zone blocking scheme RB who never gets hurt

Bye, McFadden.

This.

 

[Hardline]

I would take Morris over McFadden but I would take McFadden over Jackson.