McFadden's performance in game 1

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I know some people have taken an in depth look at Randle's runs, but has anyone looked at DMC's?

From the live watch it appeared that he had two huge holes that he missed which could have gone for big yardage. I think the first one he cut inside the lane and the other was more of a cutback lane. Maybe i was just seeing things but at the time I thought if he just been a little more patient and chosen a different designed lane he could have had some big runs, but he gets up on the line so quickly that he limits his options.
 

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I was excited to see him once he got it and like his size. But then on that one run he went to the sideline and went sideways, instead of forward! Murray spoiled us!
 

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I know some people have taken an in depth look at Randle's runs, but has anyone looked at DMC's?

From the live watch it appeared that he had two huge holes that he missed which could have gone for big yardage. I think the first one he cut inside the lane and the other was more of a cutback lane. Maybe i was just seeing things but at the time I thought if he just been a little more patient and chosen a different designed lane he could have had some big runs, but he gets up on the line so quickly that he limits his options.

I did not post an in depth review, like I did for Randle, but I did watch all of McFadden's runs. What I saw was a runningback who lacked three very important things for the position:

1)Confidence. If you think Randle showed hesitation, McFadden will likely infuriate you. Whether it is scheme awareness or something else, he was tentative in his decision making.
2)Patience. He was took quick to run east/west and evetually wind up at the sideline or a Giants player. In a zone scheme, you have to have patience while also being decisive.
3)Vision. This might have a lot to do with the first two, and I know it is something Oakland people complained about for years, but if the hole isn't right in front of McFadden, he won't see it the majority of the time.

I know people saw a big back with lively legs and got excited, but that excitement has nothing to do with his play or production. That excitement is projection of his athleticism, a disdain for Randle and a the grass is greener attitude. I can post a write-up like I did for Randle, but I really don't think 6 carries warrants that.
 

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None of these RBs make me confident going forward. That was a terrible Giants defense on all fronts and this running game looked very weak.
 

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I did not post an in depth review, like I did for Randle, but I did watch all of McFadden's runs. What I saw was a runningback who lacked three very important things for the position:

1)Confidence. If you think Randle showed hesitation, McFadden will likely infuriate you. Whether it is scheme awareness or something else, he was tentative in his decision making.
2)Patience. He was took quick to run east/west and evetually wind up at the sideline or a Giants player. In a zone scheme, you have to have patience while also being decisive.
3)Vision. This might have a lot to do with the first two, and I know it is something Oakland people complained about for years, but if the hole isn't right in front of McFadden, he won't see it the majority of the time.

I know people saw a big back with lively legs and got excited, but that excitement has nothing to do with his play or production. That excitement is projection of his athleticism, a disdain for Randle and a the grass is greener attitude. I can post a write-up like I did for Randle, but I really don't think 6 carries warrants that.

Thanks! That sounds like it matches what I was seeing.. He has the physical abilities but didn't appear to maximize his opportunities. Hopefully he can see something from the game film. The game was so short that neither back really had an opportunity to make in game adjustments on later runs.
 

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I was excited to see him once he got it and like his size. But then on that one run he went to the sideline and went sideways, instead of forward! Murray spoiled us!

Murray had no choice because he cannot outrun anyone.
 

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Just a reminder last year vs. the 49ers we looked like garbage across the board...

Take this game with a grain of salt... but realize we layed a foundation on how we plan to our brand of football this year
 

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Well, what I saw was a guy who had a nice 8 yard run, converted two short yardage plays for 1st, and had a dynamite pass that he outran the LB for a nice gain on in limited opportunities...

I may have been seeing things though...
 

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I did not post an in depth review, like I did for Randle, but I did watch all of McFadden's runs. What I saw was a runningback who lacked three very important things for the position:

1)Confidence. If you think Randle showed hesitation, McFadden will likely infuriate you. Whether it is scheme awareness or something else, he was tentative in his decision making.
2)Patience. He was took quick to run east/west and evetually wind up at the sideline or a Giants player. In a zone scheme, you have to have patience while also being decisive.
3)Vision. This might have a lot to do with the first two, and I know it is something Oakland people complained about for years, but if the hole isn't right in front of McFadden, he won't see it the majority of the time.

I know people saw a big back with lively legs and got excited, but that excitement has nothing to do with his play or production. That excitement is projection of his athleticism, a disdain for Randle and a the grass is greener attitude. I can post a write-up like I did for Randle, but I really don't think 6 carries warrants that.

Lol

Wrong. Sorry.
You = disdain for DMC... I guess lol

Even the announcers noticed the flash and how the game changed.
 

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None of these RBs make me confident going forward. That was a terrible Giants defense on all fronts and this running game looked very weak.

It's only one game but it is a bit concerning that the NYG played mostly a 7 man box until later in the 2nd half and we couldn't really break any long runs. And that is clearly the least talented defense we'll face all year.

but it was the 1st game, so i wont rush to any judgement
 

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Lol

Wrong. Sorry.
You = disdain for DMC... I guess lol

Even the announcers noticed the flash and how the game changed.

Well thought out and executed response.

I guess the coaches were wrong also.

The guy looked good. He flashed some speed and had lively legs, like I said. He didn't do anything with it though. I also said it could be that he's not comfortable in the system yet. Yeah, that shows disdain, I essentially made excuses for the guy.
 

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I know some people have taken an in depth look at Randle's runs, but has anyone looked at DMC's?

From the live watch it appeared that he had two huge holes that he missed which could have gone for big yardage. I think the first one he cut inside the lane and the other was more of a cutback lane. Maybe i was just seeing things but at the time I thought if he just been a little more patient and chosen a different designed lane he could have had some big runs, but he gets up on the line so quickly that he limits his options.

It's just one game but I was much more comfortable with him on the field vs Randle. He runs harder and has a real burst that makes things interesting once he beyond that 1st level. Hopefully the health continues to not be a factor and his role increases.
 

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Well, what I saw was a guy who had a nice 8 yard run, converted two short yardage plays for 1st, and had a dynamite pass that he outran the LB for a nice gain on in limited opportunities...

I may have been seeing things though...

I'll go ahead and do a breakdown of McFadden's 6 runs as well. Not that I expect most of you to credit it unless it works in your favor... Thread to come soon.
 

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Well thought out and executed response.

I guess the coaches were wrong also.

The guy looked good. He flashed some speed and had lively legs, like I said. He didn't do anything with it though. I also said it could be that he's not comfortable in the system yet. Yeah, that shows disdain, I essentially made excuses for the guy.

Thank you. Appreciate it.



Randall and McFadden. I like McFadden but my dog in this race is two headed if need be... (Randle and DMC) or whoever....

I saw good signs of a two headed running game attack.
 

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When Marion Barber III was the 3rd down back he made a lot of plays on passing downs and playing against tired defenses. Jerry signed him to a big extension and made a first down back - and I said at the time it was a mistake. It was.

I'm not down on Randle but I see him the same way, a very good 3rd down RB but a guy who isn't a #1 and will wear down if he has to stay in that role. I would give DMC a lot more carries than he got this week and over the course of the season I think all four RBs on the roster are going to have to split the carries for this team to do well.
 

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It's just one game but I was much more comfortable with him on the field vs Randle. He runs harder and has a real burst that makes things interesting once he beyond that 1st level. Hopefully the health continues to not be a factor and his role increases.

Wow, even you?!

It doesn't matter how fast or strong the guy is if he can't/won't cut and get upfield. Running 90 mph to the sideline doesn't do squat.

His explosion and speed on that reception was exceptional. That was exciting. His running was atrocious upon first (and second in depth review).
 

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It's just one game but I was much more comfortable with him on the field vs Randle. He runs harder and has a real burst that makes things interesting once he beyond that 1st level. Hopefully the health continues to not be a factor and his role increases.

That's what I meant to say. ;-)


I'll go ahead and do a breakdown of McFadden's 6 runs as well. Not that I expect most of you to credit it unless it works in your favor... Thread to come soon.

Thank you in advance. :)
 
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