McFadden's performance in game 1

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I would attribute any perceived lack of confidence, vision, or otherwise to the fact that this was McFadden first real taste of real action in our system. It would only be fair to take into account the number of years Randle has had to adjust vs the months McFadden had had.. Just saying....

I kinda liked what I saw from both but look forward to seeing more from McFadden.
 

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Wow, even you?!

It doesn't matter how fast or strong the guy is if he can't/won't cut and get upfield. Running 90 mph to the sideline doesn't do squat.

His explosion and speed on that reception was exceptional. That was exciting. His running was atrocious upon first (and second in depth review).

Oh boy.... Just when I thought we straightened this thing out spider?

Atrocious? Really? = DMC

Come on. Man.
 

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Wow, even you?!

It doesn't matter how fast or strong the guy is if he can't/won't cut and get upfield. Running 90 mph to the sideline doesn't do squat.

His explosion and speed on that reception was exceptional. That was exciting. His running was atrocious upon first (and second in depth review).

No. Not me. Just keeping it real. At the end of the day, I despise the fact that Demarco is no longer on this team and was slightly impressed with the Christine Michael grab.

That all said, both DMC and Randle did some decent things out there against the gnats.
 

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Oh boy.... Just when I thought we straightened this thing out spider?

Atrocious? Really? = DMC

Come on. Man.

Have you seen the Raiders? They let this guy walk and no one but the Cowboys showed any interest. That should tell you something.

I am about to review his game tape again for a thread. Gimme a little bit and we'll revisit this.
 

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It's only one game but it is a bit concerning that the NYG played mostly a 7 man box until later in the 2nd half and we couldn't really break any long runs. And that is clearly the least talented defense we'll face all year.

but it was the 1st game, so i wont rush to any judgement

Yes just one game but that's all we have to go on for now. But many knew this would be a trouble spot heading into the year and after one game against a weak defense, they didn't do anything to make us feel better.
 

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I was excited to see him once he got it and like his size. But then on that one run he went to the sideline and went sideways, instead of forward! Murray spoiled us!

**** is the same play I am thinking of....I remember thinking whew he ran out of bounds...don't want him to get broken before we really get a chance to play with our new toy. :D
 

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The entire offense looked weak.

Passing game got some rhythm when we needed it. And the first drive was brilliant until we bogged down inside the 5. Because of the lack of a true running game to get the tough yards. We didn't even attempt to run the ball. That's what concerns me.

Another good drive bogged down for a FG as well.
 

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Have you seen the Raiders? They let this guy walk and no one but the Cowboys showed any interest. That should tell you something.

I am about to review his game tape again for a thread. Gimme a little bit and we'll revisit this.

Ok that response tells me all I need to know.

The dregs of the nfl dumped him when he, if he could have, would have dumped them. Go it.

Next you are going to,say how well the other running backs were in Oakland when they opted for them over DMC? It's called the HAMBRICK EFFECT!

Don't be fooled.
 

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**** is the same play I am thinking of....I remember thinking whew he ran out of bounds...don't want him to get broken before we really get a chance to play with our new toy. :D

I said same thing in game thread.... When he got the ball I felt like I just got a new toy. :)
 

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Passing game got some rhythm when we needed it. And the first drive was brilliant until we bogged down inside the 5. Because of the lack of a true running game to get the tough yards. We didn't even attempt to run the ball. That's what concerns me.

Another good drive bogged down for a FG as well.

That was a killer. 10 minute opening drive and get inside the 5 and shotgun, no back set?? And then 3 points? Reminded me of JG calling plays.
 

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That was a killer. 10 minute opening drive and get inside the 5 and shotgun, no back set?? And then 3 points? Reminded me of JG calling plays.

Exactly man. That is what I feared. It looks like the coaching staff did not trust any of our backs to bang it in the endzone. You can't shorten the game that much and settle for 3. It should have cost us the game except the Giants were idiots.

I hope we don't resort back to the old playcalling but if we have a weak run game, our hand is kind of forced.
 

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I was not overly impressed with any RB, nor totally disappointed. This was Randle's first start and with a lot of pressure on him. Pressure on McFadden too. It's still no excuse.
It's mostly due to some high expectations and hope these RB's will replace Murray. It's a work in progress.

However considering this was the first time the OL got to work together in a real game situation, first time with the backs, for any extended time. As well as playing from behind. They did not completely abandon the run, and used the short passing game to Dunbar at key times. I'll take this performance, and let them grow into this role and see how it expands and produces.
 

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Have you seen the Raiders? They let this guy walk and no one but the Cowboys showed any interest. That should tell you something.

I am about to review his game tape again for a thread. Gimme a little bit and we'll revisit this.

Pretty sure nobody was knocking on Justin Forsett's door prior to last season before he had a career season. Just because it didn't work with another franchise especially one as inept as Oakland has been doesn't mean McFadden can't have success in Dallas.

He had only six carries. No real opportunity to establish a rhythm. Yes he missed a cut or two, but so did Randle who was far from perfect and couldn't make anyone miss in the open field along with putting the football on the turf.
 

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I did not post an in depth review, like I did for Randle, but I did watch all of McFadden's runs. What I saw was a runningback who lacked three very important things for the position:

1)Confidence. If you think Randle showed hesitation, McFadden will likely infuriate you. Whether it is scheme awareness or something else, he was tentative in his decision making.
2)Patience. He was took quick to run east/west and evetually wind up at the sideline or a Giants player. In a zone scheme, you have to have patience while also being decisive.
3)Vision. This might have a lot to do with the first two, and I know it is something Oakland people complained about for years, but if the hole isn't right in front of McFadden, he won't see it the majority of the time.

I know people saw a big back with lively legs and got excited, but that excitement has nothing to do with his play or production. That excitement is projection of his athleticism, a disdain for Randle and a the grass is greener attitude. I can post a write-up like I did for Randle, but I really don't think 6 carries warrants that.

LOL so from 6 carries from MacFadden you were able to extrapolate that he lacked confidence, patience, and vision?

You're entitled to your opinion but not your facts.

Fact is that MacFadden looked explosive and hit the hole hard. I'm assuming most people saw the same thing with MacFadden in the game also. However, Randle looked like he was stuck in the mud and and looked tentative, slow and easy to tackle.

You can write whatever you want about Randle and make it suite your opinion. But the fact is he needs to do better than what he did against the Giants if were going to the Superbowl. A mere 4.1 yards per. carry with our oline is not going to cut it.
 

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Just a reminder last year vs. the 49ers we looked like garbage across the board...

Take this game with a grain of salt... but realize we layed a foundation on how we plan to our brand of football this year

don't think we looked like 'garbage' in either game. this game vs the giants was like both games vs them last year: all 3 could've gone either way.
 

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LOL so from 6 carries from MacFadden you were able to extrapolate that he lacked confidence, patience, and vision?

You're entitled to your opinion but not your facts.

Fact is that MacFadden looked explosive and hit the hole hard. I'm assuming most people saw the same thing with MacFadden in the game also. However, Randle looked like he was stuck in the mud and and looked tentative, slow and easy to tackle.

You can write whatever you want about Randle and make it suite your opinion. But the fact is he needs to do better than what he did against the Giants if were going to the Superbowl. A mere 4.1 yards per. carry with our oline is not going to cut it.

So McFadden gets excuses for his poor play (dating back 7 seasons) but Randle doesn't get excuses after one game as a starter where he significantly out played McFadden? OK then. You're clearly unbiased.

And yes, guys like Forsett exist. However,for every Forsett there are probably 100 players that don't change their stripes on a new team.

The difference between you guy and me, is I want them all to be good. I accept that Randle can and will be better. I hope that McFadden can really show. I am even enthusiastic about Dunbar and Michael. You guys, on the other hand want to see "the new shiny toy" as so perfectly put in this thread. The grass is not always greener.
 
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