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McNabb facing bleak future
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The Eagles are right back where they were last year when Thanksgiving arrived. No Donovan McNabb, which is bad news; no T.O., which is good news; and no shot at the playoffs, which makes this another lost season in Philly.

McNabb is one of the good guys, popular on his team and around the league, but his body has betrayed him again before he even turns 30 on Saturday. He can't stay healthy.

The Eagles are used to life without McNabb, their leader on the field and conscience in the locker room. He has now suffered major injuries in three of the last five seasons, all of them in November: broken ankle, hernia, ripped-up knee.

He was having one of his best seasons until he suffered a season-ending torn ACL in his right knee in the first minute of the second quarter in Sunday's loss to the Titans. He was throwing on the run and was no more than lightly bumped by Tennessee's Kyle Vanden Bosch as he went out of bounds.

McNabb fell down and was soon seated on the dreaded cart, taking the Eagles' season with him. They are 5-5 and on the way to no better than 7-9 with the Colts, Panthers, Commanders, Giants, Cowboys and Falcons left to play in a difficult last six weeks.

Andy Reid called it an eight-month-to-a-year injury, which means the Eagles will be fortunate if they have McNabb back for the start of the 2007 season. And to compound matters, McNabb yesterday visited orthopedist James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., and learned that he'll have to wait at least 2-3 weeks to have surgery to allow swelling to reduce around the knee.

McNabb is young enough to come back, of course, but it's too soon to say if he will ever be a dominant player again. He has been to one Super Bowl in the eight seasons since the Eagles made him the second overall pick in the 1999 draft, but now you must question if the Eagles ever will be good enough and McNabb ever will be healthy enough to win it.

The Eagles don't need to panic and take a QB in the first round, but they must do better than Jeff Garcia and A.J. Feeley behind McNabb. Reid has not said who will start Sunday night against the Colts, but who cares? Philly is not winning many games with either of them.

Eagles trainer Rick Burkholder, asked yesterday about McNabb's career prognosis, said, "The track record with other athletes that have played the position and have had ACL tears, they've done okay."

Cincinnati's Carson Palmer tore his left ACL in January and started this year's season opener. Daunte Culpepper tore three right knee ligaments, including the ACL, last October when he was with Minnesota, then started the Dolphins' opener this season but clearly was not ready. He had no mobility and was benched after four games. So much of McNabb's game is based on his ability to move around. He is one of the league's most dynamic players when healthy.

"I don't see a bright future," one GM said yesterday. "I don't think he ever realized his true potential. Now it will be difficult to do. He was putting up a lot of numbers this year, but wasn't leading them to victory. I don't doubt he will be back. I think he will be less, not more." So the NFC East, which was supposed to be the best division in the NFL, has been reduced to a two-team race between the Giants and the Cowboys.

Their Dec. 3 rematch in the Meadowlands will provide the same drama as last year. when they met in a first-place showdown. The Giants won it and went on to win the division. The Cowboys, after ending the Colts' undefeated season Sunday, play the lowly Bucs in two days on Thanksgiving, and then will have 10 days to get ready for the Giants.

The Cowboys have been energized by Tony Romo, who outplayed Peyton Manning on Sunday. "I think Dallas is going to take the Giants," the GM said. "Dallas is going to win the division."

Last year, coming off a Super Bowl, McNabb missed the last seven games with a hernia injury that required surgery. The Eagles were 4-5 - T.O. already had been put in storage by Reid - when McNabb was hurt, and they won just two of their last seven without him. He missed the final six games of the 2002 season with the broken ankle. The Eagles won five of them, McNabb returned for the playoffs, beat Atlanta then lost to the Bucs in the NFC title game.

Whether Reid promotes Garcia or hopes Feeley can recreate his magic from 2002 when he went 4-1 after McNabb was injured, the Eagles still are done. Garcia is 36 with little left. He was 1-4 in his starts for Detroit last year. Feeley had a chance to be the man when he was traded to Miami in 2004, but was 3-5 and couldn't hold off Jay Fiedler the first year, and then the next year was Gus Frerotte's backup. That says a lot. He hasn't played a down in 23 months.

McNabb went into the Titans game with a 96.6 rating, sixth in the league, with 17 TDs and five INTs. But the Eagles, who got off to a 4-1 start, have since lost four out of five, three times on the final play of the game. "I don't see it going anywhere positive," the GM said.

The Commanders dropped out of the NFC East race weeks ago. The Eagles have joined them. It's down to the Giants and Cowboys, as expected, just earlier than anticipated.
 

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Since losing the SB I believe he has a losing record. Philly should be happy he is gone.
 

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YoMick;1179159 said:
Since losing the SB I believe he has a losing record. Philly should be happy he is gone.

McNabb and Westbrook is the Philly offense and don't get a lot of help from others on that team. I don't care for McNabb but he is a good QB
 

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YoMick;1179159 said:
Since losing the SB I believe he has a losing record. Philly should be happy he is gone.

I remember hearing people say that about Troy Aikman after he retired.
 

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YoMick;1179159 said:
Since losing the SB I believe he has a losing record. Philly should be happy he is gone.

He was still the best option on their team. The cheapskates needed to go get him at least one quality WR before the season and an everydown RB worth his salt. Westbrook is very good but is not an everydown back.
 

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I can't believe anyone would say they are better off with McNabb gone. The guy got a team with marginal offensive talent deep into the playoffs over and over again. He's been one of the league's top QBs over the past 6 years. I hate the Eagles, but you have to respect McNabb's accomplishments.
 

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abersonc;1179231 said:
I can't believe anyone would say they are better off with McNabb gone. The guy got a team with marginal offensive talent deep into the playoffs over and over again. He's been one of the league's top QBs over the past 6 years. I hate the Eagles, but you have to respect McNabb's accomplishments.

If he can't finish what's the difference? Three of the last five years he hasn't completed a season. injury prone?
 

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YoMick;1179159 said:
Philly should be happy he is gone.

What the hell are you talking about?

You make no sense.

Yea, lets be happy that our franchise player is gone.
 

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injuries happen. it's not like he is missing games just because he is nicked up. mcnabb is a heck of a qb. the problem with the eagle is they don't have a viable backup, don't have a decent wr,and as good as westbrook is,he's not a rb you can have run the ball 25 times a game.
 

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Timbo2st;1179244 said:
What the hell are you talking about?

You make no sense.

Yea, lets be happy that our franchise player is gone.


Franchise player?

He has NEVER delivered for that Franchise.

Keep accepting mediocrity.... go ahead.
Even the fans in Philly want a new QB..... arent you listening?
 

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LeonDixson;1179210 said:
He was still the best option on their team. The cheapskates needed to go get him at least one quality WR before the season and an everydown RB worth his salt. Westbrook is very good but is not an everydown back.

He HAD a quality WR and he didnt want to throw it to him. He deserves NEVER winning anything.
 

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abersonc;1179231 said:
I can't believe anyone would say they are better off with McNabb gone. The guy got a team with marginal offensive talent deep into the playoffs over and over again. He's been one of the league's top QBs over the past 6 years. I hate the Eagles, but you have to respect McNabb's accomplishments.


Maybe whoever is saying that, is saying that now that he is injured, not prior to the injury...

He will not be the same scramling QB, he is getting up in age, and he does not have a good team or coaching around him anymore. Add the fact that the best years that McPuke played were all those years when the NFCE was terrible!

If McNabb would have gone to a quality organization there probably is no doubt that he would most likely have a ring by now...

But, that whole eagle organization is cheap and they don't get the best players, and fat Andy is a bum west coast coach...

I feel no pity whatsoever about McNabb...he took his 110 mil, ran off a great receiver (yeah, I know, he's a jerk)...and the media, or anyone else cannot critize him...just because...if you know what I mean!

The eagles are irrelevant...

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abersonc;1179231 said:
I can't believe anyone would say they are better off with McNabb gone. The guy got a team with marginal offensive talent deep into the playoffs over and over again. He's been one of the league's top QBs over the past 6 years. I hate the Eagles, but you have to respect McNabb's accomplishments.

Dont waste your time man...

- Mike G.
 

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Timbo2st;1179244 said:
Yea, lets be happy that our franchise player is gone.

There is your problem, skippy!

You need a quality organization in order to have a franchise...if you have a franchise, then you can have a franchise player!

The eagle organization are nothing more then cheapskates. But, to your credit, they do have the "Gold Standard"....

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Dave_in-NC;1179237 said:
If he can't finish what's the difference? Three of the last five years he hasn't completed a season. injury prone?

And in one of those seasons, he returned following a broken ankle to take his team to the NFC championship game.

4 of the last 6 years his team made it to the NFC championship game -- clearly they won't do that this year. But let me ask this. Would you like a QB who led you to 12 post-season games since 2000?

How many post season games have our QBs led us to in that period?
 

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abersonc;1179286 said:
And in one of those seasons, he returned following a broken ankle to take his team to the NFC championship game.

4 of the last 6 years his team made it to the NFC championship game -- clearly they won't do that this year. But let me ask this. Would you like a QB who led you to 12 post-season games since 2000?

How many post season games have our QBs led us to in that period?

I would gladly take the success the Eagles had the last several seasons over what Dallas did the last several years. Sure I want the Cowboys to actually win it all, but I can't stand when they aren't even competitive. And they weren't for several years.
 

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I think Mcnubb was a little overrated but that doesn't mean I don't think he's a good player. I think he is and he is a good guy, I appreciate that.
(although I never want to see his mom make a tv commercial again)
Philly has brought this on itself to some extent because they have made Mcnubb their centerpiece and refused to put much of anything around him other than a good defense. Then, their centerpiece gets hurt and the season is automatically lost. The front office is to blame IMO. Maybe Mcnubb lacks a some confidence and adding playmakers around him makes him feel threatened I don't know. But whatever the reason, Philly put ALL of their eggs in one basket.
I certainly don't like to see any player injured and esp one of the good guys like mcnubb, but other than that, I can say that such a debacle couldn't have happened to a classier fanbase ;-)
If there's one city that deserves to have their teams fail miserably every year, its that place.
 

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joseephuss;1179292 said:
I would gladly take the success the Eagles had the last several seasons over what Dallas did the last several years. Sure I want the Cowboys to actually win it all, but I can't stand when they aren't even competitive. And they weren't for several years.


You can thank 3 SuperBowls and free agency taking all those good players from the Cowboys for all the non-competitive stuff...

Oh yeah, and JJ's great drafting...

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ghst187;1179295 said:
I think Mcnubb was a little overrated but that doesn't mean I don't think he's a good player. I think he is and he is a good guy, I appreciate that.
(although I never want to see his mom make a tv commercial again)
Philly has brought this on itself to some extent because they have made Mcnubb their centerpiece and refused to put much of anything around him other than a good defense. Then, their centerpiece gets hurt and the season is automatically lost. The front office is to blame IMO. Maybe Mcnubb lacks a some confidence and adding playmakers around him makes him feel threatened I don't know. But whatever the reason, Philly put ALL of their eggs in one basket.
I certainly don't like to see any player injured and esp one of the good guys like mcnubb, but other than that, I can say that such a debacle couldn't have happened to a classier fanbase ;-)
If there's one city that deserves to have their teams fail miserably every year, its that place.


:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

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joseephuss;1179292 said:
I would gladly take the success the Eagles had the last several seasons over what Dallas did the last several years. Sure I want the Cowboys to actually win it all, but I can't stand when they aren't even competitive. And they weren't for several years.


good things come to those who wait.... if it took waiting all this time to get better and be REAL DEAL... I wouldnt trade it for the Eagles success.... they got nothing for that success.... the city hates the team and they are hating on McNabb...

atleast when we go, WE GO!
 
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