McShay Releases 1st Mock; Cowboys Take CB Kevin Johnson

[IAmLegend]

-Looks like a good player. Wouldn't mind it as long there isn't a better DL prospect available. We need a CB badly, especially if/when we cut Carr. He seems like the RKG too. Need to see more game tape though.

 

[therock1982]

spent a bit of time ths week looking at the corners in the draft,this guy is 1 of my favourites.Not afraid to to tackle either-looked like 1 of the more physical tacklers to me.1st round tho?seeing as most paces have him as a 3rd rounder?

 

[Western]

Build from the inside out.
Establish a dominating presence on the DLine with young players.
At times, Dallas is weak with its corners since the DLinemen cannot consistently win one-on-one match ups against the opposing teams offensive line.
Get a sack artist or disruptor who can cause turmoil.

 

[Hardline]

If he is BPA when the Cowboys draft slot comes up then draft him. If not ,pass him up.

 

[RS12]

I would hate that if there were any kind of D Line talent available at the pick. There is no such thing as a shut down corner without pressure.

 

[DBOY3141]

I live in NC and see a few Wake games a year. Good player, but never thought he was a 1st round corner.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Havent looked at the player, yet i cant help but roll my eyes when I see Wake. ****** Wilber!

 

[jrumann59]

His high school is pretty good one too. Where they positioned it in the county they got a lot of the talent from the one of the rougher HS in the county and also got some of the corn feed boys from the rural part of the county.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

A CB in the 1st round...




I'm starting to weep tears of joy!

 

[ThreeandOut]

Build from the inside out.
Establish a dominating presence on the DLine with young players.
At times, Dallas is weak with its corners since the DLinemen cannot consistently win one-on-one match ups against the opposing teams offensive line.
Get a sack artist or disruptor who can cause turmoil.

Ideally, that's what you would want to do. The question is whether that type of DL is going to be available picking in the 20's of this draft. I think they'll be picking the best available defensive player, regardless of position.

 

[Idgit]

If we don't like the available DL at our pick, I'd honestly rather trade down and diversify risk a bit. The last thing we want to do is draft for need, and we do need to find impact defensive players who can have an impact right away. But I really don't want to be in the situation we've been in the last few years where the impact defensive guy we need is taken a few picks in front of us and we have to go another direction. Just once it'd be nice to catch a break.

You gotta take the clearly better players when they're there, but you also gotta get those DLs somewhere. They're too expensive and to hard to find in FA.

 

[reddyuta]

We need pass rushers who can make an immediate impact, we can get a zone cb later in the draft.I would be shocked if we didn't go DL in the first rd.

 

[supercowboy8]

Not a first rounder. He is to hands on. Grabs and holds alot. I don't think he is a good zone corner.

 

[50cent]

If the draft plays out like McShay has it and we don't draft Bud Dupree, I'll be pissed! WE need pressure players and Bud is a pressure player and athlete we can't pass on.

 

[supercowboy8]

If the draft plays out like McShay has it and we don't draft Bud Dupree, I'll be pissed! WE need pressure players and Bud is a pressure player and athlete we can't pass on.

I disagree. Dupree isn't that good. I do not think he is a 1st rounder. I have watched him several times and most of his sacks or pressure come long after the snap. He just keeps fighting. He isn't quick off the line or has any great pass rush moves. He isn't a marinelli style DE. He isn't a true rushman.

 

[50cent]

I disagree. Dupree isn't that good. I do not think he is a 1st rounder. I have watched him several times and most of his sacks or pressure come long after the snap. He just keeps fighting. He isn't quick off the line or has any great pass rush moves. He isn't a marinelli style DE. He isn't a true rushman.

I'm not sure we're looking at the same player. I see a quick 1st step, closing speed, drop back ability and the ability to get low turning the corner! I'll take 20+ career 2nd effort sacks. Kid runs a 4.6 at 270 with number's in arguably the best conference in college football. I trust Rod can polish him up!

 

[supercowboy8]

I'm not sure we're looking at the same player. I see a quick 1st step, closing speed, drop back ability and the ability to get low turning the corner! I'll take 20+ career 2nd effort sacks. Kid runs a 4.6 at 270 with number's in arguably the best conference in college football. I trust Rod can polish him up!

I'm not drafting a guy 1st round that's a work in progress. Yes you are watching someone else then.

I want a guy that makes plays and gets to the qb on his first effort. He has never had a double digit sack season.
Calling the SEC the best isn't true. They might have a few teams that are in the top 20 but all the other team's are average and the SEC probably has the worse QB play of any conference. Not many true passing teams.

I just don't see what you speak of about Dupree. He takes advantage of bad teams and most his sacks are 2nd effort sacks or coverage sacks.

The best game he got a sack on was Miss st. And I saw that sack in person. It was a 2nd effort coverage sack. Prescott stood there for ever.

Bit saying he isn't a good player I'm just saying what I see we and why j do t think he is a 1st round player. Stop looking g at his 3 year highlight tape and actually watch the games.

I don't care how fast he can run a 40. I want him to get by a OT and sack the QB.

His sacks have came against the some of the worse offenses in the ncaa this season expect for the 1 I mentioned above and 1 vs Louisville thay was also a scramble sack.

 

[chuch]

I disagree. Dupree isn't that good. I do not think he is a 1st rounder. I have watched him several times and most of his sacks or pressure come long after the snap. He just keeps fighting. He isn't quick off the line or has any great pass rush moves. He isn't a marinelli style DE. He isn't a true rushman.

I think you're underselling him a bit.

For starters he changed positions to DE in the past two years which would explain why he is lacking in technique. Secondly there is absolutely no way he is too slow off the line. If anything he is inconsistent timing/watching for when the ball is snapped. Having said that, he has exceptional burst off the line and he's got great flexibility around the edge particularly for a player of his size. It's true he isn't consistently beating his man because, for all intents and purposes, when rushing the passer he is a one-trick pony. From all accounts he is as high-effort off the field as he is on it, so I'm sure he's take quickly to tutelage. For where the Cowboys will be picking, a flawless sack artist just won't be found. Dupree presents tremendous potential.


check out the sack at 1:32

 

[supercowboy8]

I think you're underselling him a bit.

For starters he changed positions to DE in the past two years which would explain why he is lacking in technique. Secondly there is absolutely no way he is too slow off the line. If anything he is inconsistent timing/watching for when the ball is snapped. Having said that, he has exceptional burst off the line and he's got great flexibility around the edge particularly for a player of his size. It's true he isn't consistently beating his man because, for all intents and purposes, when rushing the passer he is a one-trick pony. From all accounts he is as high-effort off the field as he is on it, so I'm sure he's take quickly to tutelage. For where the Cowboys will be picking

I don't care for high light videos. Everyone looks good in highlights. That's why they are called highlights. I watch games. I live in nashville and have seen him in person.

Sorry but you take a few plays and then try to debate me is wrong. I saw him through several games every play.

He is slow off the line. Being late to the snap is being slow. No matter what his burst is. If he is a half second late after the snap then that gives the OT time to set up. That means you late and slow to reaction.

Never said he was a bad player just stating why I do t think he is a 1st rounder. I wouldn't take the chance no matter where we are picking. There are about 40 players I like more than dupree. I take the BPA and even at 32 it wouldn't be him.

 

[supercowboy8]

I think you're underselling him a bit.ku



check out the sack at 1:32

Your video hurts your case.

1st it's vs vandy. Vandy is not a mecca of nfl talent or NFL caliber OTs.
2nd he had 1 play where he ran right by a no name RT to get a sack where #94 smith was also right there. Does that make Smith a 1st round talent.

Also did you see him do anything g else in that clip. Like his sack at around the .40 second mark was a scramble coverage sack like he gets the most because he has great 2nd effort and doesn't give up. I like that in his I do.
But he had to much where he just late off the line of snap. Where he didn't set the edge vs the run. I never see any consistency out him. Some times he looks amazing then he just looks lien a JAG.

I agree he has potential but I don't waste a 1st on him. Hasn't shown that he is worth it.