Mel on QB Jacoby Brissett

[Risen Star]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

 

[Alexander]

According to Mel people within the league keep telling him Brissett will be drafted earlier than expected.

With the 34th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft the Dallas Cowboys select.....

And that is a Quincy Carter type pick and a waste of a premium choice.

Look, I don't think he is the worst, but to act like he is one of the top 64 players in this entire draft is just lunacy.

Take him in the 4th or 5th? Becomes more palatable and I can even then attempt to delude myself that his QB coach is not going to be Wade Wilson.

 

[Alexander]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

He and Kessler have a chance to be that kind of career backup type.

 

[Risen Star]

He and Kessler have a chance to be that kind of career backup type.

I'm a little higher on Nate Sudfeld than most. I think he could be that type too but probably won't go until very late.

So maybe once we add Brissett in the 2nd we could potentially get his backup in Sudfeld with one of those 6th round comp picks.

Go Cowboys?

 

[Risen Star]

1(4) Jalen Ramsey CB Florida St.
2(34) Jacoby Brissett QB North Carolina St.
3(67) Austin Hooper TE Stanford

Then we turn it over to Will for some more fine day 3 work.

 

[Alexander]

1(4) Jalen Ramsey CB Florida St.
2(34) Jacoby Brissett QB North Carolina St.
3(67) Austin Hooper TE Stanford

Then we turn it over to Will for some more find day 3 work.

This is so not funny.

 

[Alexander]

I'm a little higher on Nate Sudfeld than most. I think he could be that type too but probably won't go until very late.

So maybe once we add Brissett in the 2nd we could potentially get his backup in Sudfeld with one of those 6th round comp picks.

Go Cowboys?

All in all, I keep seeing things about this QB class that really strikes against the grain.

Common opinion was that it was a pedestrian class. In a pure sense, okay, believe that. But teams overvalue QBs so much. I mean, trash like Sean Mannion went in the third. Teams can't evaluate the position, so they fall in love with traits.

At the end of the day, I bet more get drafted than everyone believe.

That's where I don't get where some pundits are coming from.

Are they basing the draft positioning on their opinions or on what they hear idiotic NFL types mumbling?

 

[Risen Star]

This is so not funny.

Here's the thing though. If the pick is Ramsey in the 1st I think that makes it highly likely they make a bad QB pick in the 2nd round. I think they'll feel pressed to fill that need and there just isn't a QB worth the pick there.

 

[Alexander]

Here's the thing though. If the pick is Ramsey in the 1st I think that makes it highly likely they make a bad QB pick in the 2nd round. I think they'll feel pressed to fill that need and there just isn't a QB worth the pick there.

Oh, I know.

 

[RS12]

QBs are lottery tickets that mostly dont get cashed. If they are going that route, I kinda like Brandon Allen to hang around the league for a while.

 

[MikeT22]

Was this the kid at the Senior Bowl practices who kept running when they called Pass plays?

If so then we have nothing to worry about. We tend to like QB's that pass even when a run play is called.

 

[casmith07]

EXPERTS.

 

[MikeT22]

Here's the thing though. If the pick is Ramsey in the 1st I think that makes it highly likely they make a bad QB pick in the 2nd round. I think they'll feel pressed to fill that need and there just isn't a QB worth the pick there.

That's been my biggest draft fear this offseason. Not just Ramsey, but if we take any non-QB in the first I'm afraid we'll force a QB selection in the 2nd or 3rd round when there is way better talent elsewhere at those spots. But I think it'll happen. I don't think we'll take a QB in the first, but can't see us waiting til day three to take one.
Probably waste our 2nd or 3rd rounder on Cook, Hackenberg, Dak or Brissett.

 

[Oh_Canada]

All in all, I keep seeing things about this QB class that really strikes against the grain.

Common opinion was that it was a pedestrian class. In a pure sense, okay, believe that. But teams overvalue QBs so much. I mean, trash like Sean Mannion went in the third. Teams can't evaluate the position, so they fall in love with traits.

At the end of the day, I bet more get drafted than everyone believe.

That's where I don't get where some pundits are coming from.

Are they basing the draft positioning on their opinions or on what they hear idiotic NFL types mumbling?

I actually think it's a decent class, far better than a year ago.

 

[Alexander]

I actually think it's a decent class, far better than a year ago.

Yet that is so different than what you have been hearing around here for months.

All I can say is that there has been a lot more activity around the position this year as opposed to last year. To me, that suggests teams feel it is worth the time to investigate.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Id take him with the first 4th. Dude has some game to him. Mobility and an arm, dont know the mental makeup, but we never do know.

 

[Alexander]

Id take him with the first 4th. Dude has some game to him. Mobility and an arm, dont know the mental makeup, but we never do know.

Brissett just makes a lot of plays on talent alone. It is pretty clear he was not dissecting opposing defenses.

It is the same thing with other prospects. Why on earth there is he idea t that physical talents can transcend all, I don't know.

It always comes back to coaching.

And well. We have Wade Wilson.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Brissett just makes a lot of plays on talent alone. It is pretty clear he was not dissecting opposing defenses.

It is the same thing with other prospects. Why on earth there is he idea t that physical talents can transcend all, I don't know.

It always comes back to coaching.

And well. We have Wade Wilson.

I heard his oline was so bad he didn't have time to dissect anything. I'll trust Dallas on this one.

 

[Alexander]

I heard his oline was so bad he didn't have time to dissect anything. I'll trust Dallas on this one.

But yet Joe Thuney is regarded as a quality prospect.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

Not a bad gig if he can get it. Carry a clip board. Clap and get paid.