Mel on QB Jacoby Brissett

[MikeT22]

Brissett just makes a lot of plays on talent alone. It is pretty clear he was not dissecting opposing defenses.

It is the same thing with other prospects. Why on earth there is he idea t that physical talents can transcend all, I don't know.

It always comes back to coaching.

And well. We have Wade Wilson.

Don't forget Romo. Starting QB and young QB mentor trying to help the new guy take his job.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Brissett just makes a lot of plays on talent alone. It is pretty clear he was not dissecting opposing defenses.

It is the same thing with other prospects. Why on earth there is he idea t that physical talents can transcend all, I don't know.

It always comes back to coaching.

And well. We have Wade Wilson.

That is what Romo got by on early on.

 

[Alexander]

So, I guess we should overdraft Brissett because he improvised, like Romo?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Brandt has him right at number 64 at in his Top 100.

Okay admittedly early 3rd is too much as well....but Brissett should fall around the top 100. Better than Cordale Jones now with less upside. With the right Coaching and scheme he's better than Tyrod Taylor by the end of training camp.

 

[fortdick]

Says he's going 2nd round. He's the hot name being talked about within the league.

Jamarcus down for this one!

 

[darthseinfeld]

Brissett smacks of a Quincy Carter pick to me

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

I can see him being a Hoyer.

If it's a late day 3 Id like it as long as we get a real starter early day 1

 

[Risen Star]

So, I guess we should overdraft Brissett because he improvised, like Romo?

I'm putting you down as a maybe at pick 34.

 

[Risen Star]

I can see him being a Hoyer.

If it's a late day 3 Id like it as long as we get a real starter early day 1

I doubt he'd be there very late. I'm guessing he goes 4th round and I would not use either of our 4ths on him.

 

[4lifecowboy]

So, I guess we should overdraft Brissett because he improvised, like Romo?

Overdraft is a relative term. If he turns out to be successful was he overdrafted? No. All I'm saying is 32 teams was wrong about Romo 7 times (rounds). The Cowboys gambled on potential and cashed in. That is all this process (draft) is, is a gamble.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I think folks on the board need to come to grips with the possibility that the Cowboys take a QB in either round 2 or 3. If there's a QB available in one of these rounds that they feel could be an eventual starter, then they are probably going to take him.

 

[TrailBlazer]

All of the size and arm strength. None of the accuracy or football IQ. No way this guy is taken before the 4th round imo.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

he could be a Burnie Kozar. I hated that guys throwing motion as well.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Overdraft is a relative term. If he turns out to be successful was he overdrafted? No. All I'm saying is 32 teams was wrong about Romo 7 times (rounds). The Cowboys gambled on potential and cashed in. That is all this process (draft) is, is a gamble.

I agree but I question the wisdom of that kind of gamble. I mean, you are literally gambling the success you have built over the last 6 drafts. If you miss, and odds are that you do, then you put yourself in a poor position for the next few seasons. That could cost you the success of the players you have now that are on the roster. In 5 years, it's likely that most of these players are moving on if you don't have the QB figured out and with a guy like Brissett, it's going to take that long before you really know what you have.

 

[BlindFaith]

I think Hogan's a career backup. Maybe a decent one.

I think he has a little more to him than that. I predict that he will be a very serviceable starter in this league in two or three years. And someone the Cowboys should be looking at in the fourth if we don't draft a QB in the first couple of rounds. He along with Goff are the most pro ready guys to play right now. He will need some time to refine his mechanics, but he has everything else you look for in a QB.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/1/27/10837536/article

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/02/2016_nfl_draft_kevin_hogan_could_end_up_the_best_q.html

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/stanford-qb-kevin-hogan-shows-nfl-pro-day

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...evin-hogan-may-prove-a-mid-to-late-round-gem/

 

[BlindFaith]

I can see him being a Hoyer.

If it's a late day 3 Id like it as long as we get a real starter early day 1

Hogan is a much better player than Hoyer is. A far better athlete, far better accuracy. All the intangibles you look for. Don't be surprised to see him go in the 4th, or even sooner.

 

[4lifecowboy]

I agree but I question the wisdom of that kind of gamble. I mean, you are literally gambling the success you have built over the last 6 drafts. If you miss, and odds are that you do, then you put yourself in a poor position for the next few seasons. That could cost you the success of the players you have now that are on the roster. In 5 years, it's likely that most of these players are moving on if you don't have the QB figured out and with a guy like Brissett, it's going to take that long before you really know what you have.

We are in a unique position this year, we can take a reasonable gamble in hopes of landing our future QB. Considering that Romo is and will be our starter for a minimum of two years, we can take that risk. We have that long. Brissett has flashed abilities to be great, inconsistencies are his hurdle, repetitions and confidence is what he needs.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We are in a unique position this year, we can take a reasonable gamble in hopes of landing our future QB. Considering that Romo is and will be our starter for a minimum of two years, we can take that risk. We have that long. Brissett has flashed abilities to be great, inconsistencies are his hurdle, repetitions and confidence is what he needs.

The question of Brissett, to me, is secondary. You can discuss the positives and negatives of the player all day, and that will happen but, the actual approach is what is interesting to me. If you are going to gamble, is it wise to do this now, with the 4th pick in the draft, with regards to QB? That's the question to me. If you are going to gamble, then make a gamble on the best possible option. That is if you want to gamble. I am not in favor of a gamble but I am definitely not in favor of a gamble on a more risky bet. The club was lucky with Romo. There was really no gamble because he was undrafted. This is different to me. JMO

 

[4lifecowboy]

The question of Brissett, to me, is secondary. You can discuss the positives and negatives of the player all day, and that will happen but, the actual approach is what is interesting to me. If you are going to gamble, is it wise to do this now, with the 4th pick in the draft, with regards to QB? That's the question to me. If you are going to gamble, then make a gamble on the best possible option. That is if you want to gamble. I am not in favor of a gamble but I am definitely not in favor of a gamble on a more risky bet. The club was lucky with Romo. There was really no gamble because he was undrafted. This is different to me. JMO

Not at all advocating taking Brissett @ 4th overall, but i am saying at the QB position you probably are going to have to gamble with longer odds than any other position.
Regardless of what direction we go at the 4th overall pick there is going to be risk. Ramsey is he a cb or a safety? Can he dominate at cb, believing that is the only justification for taking him @ 4th overall, otherwise if he is projected to play safety by NFL standards that is too high. Elliott @4 probably the safest gamble but again too high for a rb according to NFL protocol . Bosa how dominant will he on the next level. Tunsil how much should we invest in o-line that is already saturated with 1st round talent? No clear cut game changer available this year, so how are we not going to have to risk?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not at all advocating taking Brissett @ 4th overall, but i am saying at the QB position you probably are going to have to gamble with longer odds than any other position.
Regardless of what direction we go at the 4th overall pick there is going to be risk. Ramsey is he a cb or a safety? Can he dominate at cb, believing that is the only justification for taking him @ 4th overall, otherwise if he is projected to play safety by NFL standards that is too high. Elliott @4 probably the safest gamble but again too high for a rb according to NFL protocol . Bosa how dominant will he on the next level. Tunsil how much should we invest in o-line that is already saturated with 1st round talent? No clear cut game changer available this year, so how are we not going to have to risk?

That's true. Every player is a gamble but it's statistically sound to minimize the gamble as much as possible. Statistics say that the higher you take a QB, the better chance said QB has of being a quality starter. It's a risk reward scenario with the known quantifier that without a quality starter at QB, you can't win consistently.