Merill Hoge is an idiot

[SupermanXx]

I was sure someone would claim his being a rookie and pull up career numbers or something.

And I left off Roy Williams. I should have included him. Darrell Jackson was another guy I thought of.

And the Willie Blade was just silliness for Superman... You know, we need a kicker? "Sign Willie Blade to a 10 year, billion dollar contract."

I knew you threw that in there for me :laugh2:

cracked me up

 

[erich1r]

The thing that piss me off is our BOYS don't get credit for their play. we hear the media say these things about T.O. imagine if he did'nt come up with some of those 3rd down catches forget the dropped passes for a second.Think about the ones he did catch we may not be in the position we in

 

[erich1r]

think about the catches that kept drives going . It's so obvious that the the powers that be in the nfl and the media don't want the BOYS to win

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well i meant he destroyed their season, guess I worded it wrong. You can't deny he wasn't a big part of it, because the Eagles were having problems before McNabb finally got put out.And of course the Eagles deserved it, they gave him a huge bonus up front and cheated the Ravens out of acquiring him, they got what they deserved, when he started asking for more money.

the injuries to the D did them in, and their secondary really regressed, so that their pass-rush wasn't as effective

plus passing the ball 70% of the times didnt' help, they became too predictable on O

TO didn't play a role in it at all, he was actually their best player when he was activated

 

[erich1r]

all the players named there's a few over half that will be watching T.O. playing in the the playoffs and hopefully the superbowl. so to say they're better is a matter of opinion

 

[adamknite]

the injuries to the D did them in, and their secondary really regressed, so that their pass-rush wasn't as effective

plus passing the ball 70% of the times didnt' help, they became too predictable on O

TO didn't play a role in it at all, he was actually their best player when he was activated

Don't give me that, there is no way you can say TO didn't have a role in it. TO caused a circus around the team, those distractions were ripping the team apart, as evident that he was throwing McNabb under the bus constently and yet there were still players on that team who wanted him back, instead of siding with their leader.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Don't give me that, there is no way you can say TO didn't have a role in it. TO caused a circus around the team, those distractions were ripping the team apart, as evident that he was throwing McNabb under the bus constently and yet there were still players on that team who wanted him back, instead of siding with their leader.

conjecture simply won't do

 

[ologan]

Already has.... washington game, remember? Sorry for bringing it up if you had already repressed the memory.....

Beat me to it. One of these games,there won't be the dropped passes,and that could propel us all the way to the Super Bowl. Maybe TO will take these criticisms personally. Hope so,anyway!

 

[adamknite]

conjecture simply won't do

Oh come off of it, I agree the media went overboard with it, but to say he didn't have a part to play in their season ending the way it did is simply obserd. He got himself suspended then benched by the team with all of his antics so that right there proves he had some part in it.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Washington game was a blessing in disguise. I'd rather lose to a terrible team to stay humble.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Oh come off of it, I agree the media went overboard with it, but to say he didn't have a part to play in their season ending the way it did is simply obserd. He got himself suspended then benched by the team with all of his antics so that right there proves he had some part in it.

you have no evidence that TO was a distraction, maybe to McNabb, but that in itself is conjecture at best, so I'll go by what I did see that caused the Eagles to go 6-10 last year, which I already explained, and TO being arguably it's best player isn't one of the reasons

 

[Chuck 54]

I can live with the occasional dropped pass by T.O....we all know that he's had a problem with dropped passes his whole career. He's been a great receiver, but even in his best days in SF, no one ever tried to say he had great hands.

However, if he keeps dropping them on 3rd down or in the end zone, it is going to eventually screw us in the playoffs no matter what his stats are. You don't usually see drops from a top receiver on critical downs when they are concentrating...usually it's when they are trying to run without the ball.

I don't really know what T.O.'s problem is.

 

[adamknite]

you have no evidence that TO was a distraction, maybe to McNabb, but that in itself is conjecture at best, so I'll go by what I did see that caused the Eagles to go 6-10 last year, which I already explained, and TO being arguably it's best player isn't one of the reasons

no evidence? He got into a fight in the locker room with a guy, that's not distracting? He threw the "Team Leader" under the bus every chance he got, there were players on the team that still wanted him back on the team after all of this instead of siding with the leader of the team. If those aren't considerred distractions then sorry sir I am wrong with every comment I made.

 

[erich1r]

according to mcflabb they could win without him so to him it did'nt matter if T.O played or not

 

[Bob Sacamano]

no evidence? He got into a fight in the locker room with a guy, that's not distracting? He threw the "Team Leader" under the bus every chance he got, there were players on the team that still wanted him back on the team after all of this instead of siding with the leader of the team. If those aren't considerred distractions then sorry sir I am wrong with every comment I made.

I'm not saying those aren't distractions, by definition, they are, just saying you have no proof that they distracted anybody

and that's the last I'm going to say on the matter

 

[kevwun]

This morning on one of the pregame shows Hoge was dogging VY again. He gave him zero credit for the Giants win. It was so bad that Jaws asked him why he was taking it so personal. I've never seen anything like that happen before. He hates Young and has been dogging him since before the draft. He can't admit he was wrong.

 

[adamknite]

according to mcflabb they could win without him so to him it did'nt matter if T.O played or not

Thanks for helping me with my point. Nabb said they could win without him, yet there were still players who wanted him to come back so they could win. Distraction, and dissention among the ranks it sounds like to me.

 

[erich1r]

sounds to me that mcflabb may not be the goody 2 shoes he appears to be

 

[erich1r]

if he was that bad why would anyone on that team want him back

 

[adamknite]

I'm not saying those aren't distractions, by definition, they are, just saying you have no proof that they distracted anybody

and that's the last I'm going to say on the matter

You sir just made no sense.....

dis·trac·tion [di-strak-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the act of distracting.
2. the state of being distracted.
3. mental distress or derangement: That child will drive me to distraction.
4. that which distracts, divides the attention, or prevents concentration: The distractions of the city interfere with my studies.
5. that which amuses, entertains, or diverts; amusement; entertainment: Fishing is his major distraction.
6. division or disorder caused by dissension; tumult.



If it looks like a distraction, acts like a distraction, it's a distraction. Instead of preparing for the next opponant, every member of the team had a microphone in their face asking them about TO. He even told his position coach to not talk to him unless spoken to. When one of the best players gets suspended by the team then there is a "distraction" some way or another.

Do I have proof that a player drops a ball because he was too busy thinking about TO to catch it? No I don't. I guess you're right. Then again you have no proof that says otherwise either so the last thing I'll say on the matter is that this, TO played his part in sending that season down the toilet for the Eagles, and anybody with a rational thought in their head can see that.