Meriweather @ FS

Champsheart;1460069 said:
Hey, I understand your feelings, really I do, that does not mean I agree, but I do understand.

Quick question though, if he had no character issues where would you think he would go in the draft?

top 10
10-20
20-30

top 5
 
jrumann59;1460478 said:
Merriweather=Sean Taylor, its not that he has bad character, its almost like he has bad karma, you know trouble follows him. Don't get me wrong he isn't Pac-Man but he could be and his ducks aren't in the tightest row at this moment. With that being said if he is the BPA at 22 take him and put a clause in his contract about personal conduct at all times. Though I really don't see us taking him unless Watkins isn't the answer.

I have to agree. bad karma breeds bad karma. The more thugs you have on the team, they seem to attract more thugs. Remember who Antonio Bryant's best friend on the team was??????
 
1. Roy Williams
2. Ken Hamlin
3. Pat Watkins
4. Keith Davis
5. Abram Elam

We have 5 players as of today playing two positions, why draft one in the first round?

I'm getting tired of this "Draft a FS in the first round talk" Free Safety is not an issue. Why would we spend a pick on a Free Safety when we have other needs on this team that can be helped with a first round pick this year. If we're going to spend another pick on our defensive backfield why would it be for a safety when there is a much better chance that if we draft CB the Rookie could actually get some playing time. People just have this blind obsession with Free Safeties, it's like they can't live without the boys having the most expensive DB core in the league.

We need help at D. tackle, we could use youth at WR, pass rusher, maybe MLB, maybe OLB, right now with the addition of Hamlin and already having Watkins we don't need a free safety.
 
slick325;1460556 said:
I would not be shocked at all if Dallas drafted Meriweather. I don't think they would do so at #22 though. I'll explain.

I could see a scenario where a few corners are on the board as well as Nelson and Dallas trades down to the Saints #27 pick. The Saints and the Jets need secondary help, primarily corner help. If Revis or Ross is sitting there I could see the Saints moving ahead of the Jets to pick the CB of their choosing. With the relationship Jerry has with Sean Payton and staff this is somewhat plausible.

If Dallas does so and gains a 2nd or 3rd in the process that would be perfect. The Pats need LB help and Secondary help (FS or CB). At #24 I could see them going Nelson if he is available or Posluszny. If they pick a LB at #24 they would certainly be looking FS or CB at #28. Positioned at #27, Dallas can take Meriweather prior to the Pats and he very well could be the BPA at that spot. I have seen mocks where he goes to Philly at #26 or the Pats at #28.

Talentwise Meriweather has the potential to be very very good. He can play centerfield and ballhawk and has the ability to slide into the slot and cover like a CB (a la Woody). I do not view him as the severe character risk others do and also believe that his interviews should clear any remaining FIU brawl issues up. He is not a Pacman Jones, Lawrence Phillips type based on what I know of him.

I wish the best for the kid and hope he learned from the FIU incident. I also hope that he is successful in removing the stigma that he is a criminal because of acts done as a college "kid"

Revis may be the first corner off the board.
He will NOT be there at 27, I gauranteee it.
 
Bob Sacamano;1460324 said:
it's not even about his character really, it's about the position, FS, one that Dallas isn't apt to spend that much on since they like Watkins and Elam, and think they have something by signing Ken Hamlin

Exactly.

We draft a FS period and I'll snap.
 
adamknite;1460600 said:
1. Roy Williams
2. Ken Hamlin
3. Pat Watkins
4. Keith Davis
5. Abram Elam

We have 5 players as of today playing two positions, why draft one in the first round?

I'm getting tired of this "Draft a FS in the first round talk" Free Safety is not an issue. Why would we spend a pick on a Free Safety when we have other needs on this team that can be helped with a first round pick this year. If we're going to spend another pick on our defensive backfield why would it be for a safety when there is a much better chance that if we draft CB the Rookie could actually get some playing time. People just have this blind obsession with Free Safeties, it's like they can't live without the boys having the most expensive DB core in the league.

We need help at D. tackle, we could use youth at WR, pass rusher, maybe MLB, maybe OLB, right now with the addition of Hamlin and already having Watkins we don't need a free safety.


We aren't drafting a FS in the 1st round. I'm thinking we won't draft a safety period.
 
MichaelWinicki;1460651 said:
Exactly.

We draft a FS period and I'll snap.

Don't really think it's a "snappable" offense. I mean, gawd forbid we throw more darts at a position that cost us BIG time last year.

Oh wait...you didn't want to address it last year when we had a great opportunity to, either.

That settles it. Winicki is Keith Davis. :cool: CSI - out.
 
CowboyJeff;1460590 said:
I have to agree. bad karma breeds bad karma. The more thugs you have on the team, they seem to attract more thugs. Remember who Antonio Bryant's best friend on the team was??????


eh, who?
 
superpunk;1460656 said:
Don't really think it's a "snappable" offense. I mean, gawd forbid we throw more darts at a position that cost us BIG time last year.

Oh wait...you didn't want to address it last year when we had a great opportunity to, either.

That settles it. Winicki is Keith Davis. :cool: CSI - out.

:lmao2: :bow:
 
Champsheart;1460024 said:
I know Nelson is the popular pick if we go FS in round 1, I know many people do not think Meriweather is worthy of the #22 pick, but I will go on record right now....

Meriweather is a better football player, cover man, and FS than Nelson.
I think he will be a difference maker, but I guess the off field stuff negates some of that, but his play does warrant the #22 pick, actually higher IMO.
How far should his character issues really drop him?

Mel has him going to the Panthers at 45.
 
superpunk;1460656 said:
Don't really think it's a "snappable" offense. I mean, gawd forbid we throw more darts at a position that cost us BIG time last year.

Oh wait...you didn't want to address it last year when we had a great opportunity to, either.

That settles it. Winicki is Keith Davis. :cool: CSI - out.
:laugh2:

Classic.
 
I don't know about top ten; he's not better than Landry.
 
Avery;1460750 said:
I don't know about top ten; he's not better than Landry.
The only solace I take in us not getting Laron Landry is that at least my man love for 2006 and 2007 doesn't look so bad this time. I think only Calvin Johnson is more NFL ready.
 
If Dallas really goes BPA, it could be a safety or anything else, including a kicker, Hostile, don't you think?
 
Angus;1460797 said:
If Dallas really goes BPA, it could be a safety or anything else, including a kicker, Hostile, don't you think?

I'd be hacked off if Dallas took a kicker with the 1st pick. Only the Raiders would be dumb enough to spend a 1st rd pick on a kicker
 
Reading thru some threads and in draft articles around the web, this thing about Brandon Meriweather is really starting to bother me. Everyone keeps sayin he has character issues, but I really don't see any myself. He has no police record, arrests, or anything of that nature.

People keep bringing up the Brawl, and yes he was seriously wrong for his actions, but to take that one incident and generalize it as a person havin issues is wrong. He's a 20-something year old guy, I'm 28 and I know that if that same thing would've happened to me and my teammates on the field I woulda been right in there tryin to defend them like he was. I probably wouldn't have been tryin to hit someone with my helmet, THAT's too much. It was a mistake and one I think he understands and is sorry for, so I have no problem with him being involved in the fight.

The other incident that is always brought up is the gun thing. Well, the gun was legally registered, he fired in self defense (everyone forgets to include that he fired at some guys who had just shot a teammate), and every action that he took was perfectly legal. That's why no charges were pressed.

Becuz he's from the U, everyone automatically just thinks this guy is a thug. It's a stereotype, The U has such a negative connotation in the media that people just automatically say he's a bad egg. I hope we did some research on this guy and I hope that he does fall to us in the 2nd round, cuz I believe he'll be a player.

This isn't Pacman Jones, Chris Henry, or Tank Johnson, this is a guy who was captain of the squad and made one mistake. I don't remember hearing anything about him being in any trouble until the brawl happened. Give him a break.

Sorry for the long post, just had to get that off my chest :bow:
 

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