Merriman vs Ware....what was our draft dept thinking?

[lspain1]

Maybe they are better at evaluating talent than myself, but I doubt that. I am pretty darn good.

All that skill......And so modest about it as well!

 

[Compacity]

Ok let me put this to rest... Parcells mention at draft time, he said Ware will be good down the line, Merriman going to contribute his first year, but Demarcus Ware has more upside and potential than Merriman, it's just not polished yet, Ware is an excellent pass-rusher, and the thing is he just a second late..

My honest opinion is: I think the Cowboys should hire Lawrence Taylor as a personal assistant coach for some weeks...Just to help some of the Line-backers on their pass-rushing moves... Fajita needs it too... I think that could help our blitz out...

 

[Wolverine]

If we had drafted Merriman and the Chargers had taken Ware all of us would be seeing Ware tear it up over in SD while we were wondering what we were thinking by taking Merriman.

The reason is simple. Mike Zimmer. His bend dont break defense. His contain the run first defense. It takes away from alota these players natural abilities and makes them think to much and play to little.

Ware was considered a top talent coming out. Great athlete and talent and a guy who many think could be a great player. But look now. Merriman is way ahead of him now. Ware started off good but now is fading.

Look at all the talent we brought in on defense. Yet as the games go on our pass rush gets weaker and now is not even there. The turnovers have faded away.

As long as Mike Zimmer and his bend dont break defense is here it will not matter who we bring in we will see players we think are top talent just become average like everyone does under Mike Zimmer.

Like what I say or not.....I guess it will just take for us to get a REAL DC in here for some of you to see what some of us have known all along. When we get a real DC in here and our D is feared and just mad violent then you will wonder why we wasted any time with Zimmer at DC.

 

[fairweather fan]

Come on, I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, but the whole football world knows that Bill Parcels wanted Merriman, but Jerry Jones who signs the paychecks, wanted Ware. This is still in Bills craw, as it goes back to his arguments and walkout from the Patriots over having to cook the meals while someone else bought the groceries.

 

[fairweather fan]

Demarcus did something very wrong this off-season. Instead of trying to gain massive weight like Merriman did, he continued to go to school and finished his degree.

That put him behind Merriman physically. What a selfish jerk Ware is.

Actually, what he did was wrong. His job with the Cowboys, which he accepted, was more important than his education at this point, as that degree can be persued after his short working life as a professional athelete.

I speak from experience, although the field that I was in was not professional athletics. I was asked to keep working in a field that I enjoyed, and had great professional opprtunities in, but I decided to go back to get a higher degree. I never got the same opportunites again, as when I graduated, I was considered too old to place in my prior field, and now, in my sixties, I have only a small pension and social security, while my brother, who stayed in the field which I was working in, is now president of three corporations, and his available pension funds total more than I earned my whole working life. Education is good, but accomplishment is better.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually, what he did was wrong. His job with the Cowboys, which he accepted, was more important than his education at this point, as that degree can be persued after his short working life as a professional athelete.

Don't be stupid. The draft is in April. His classes were over 3 weeks after that.

And you don't "accept" a job until you sign a contract. Which he did in August.

 

[VThokie7]

I think everybody should've expected Merriman to perform better than Ware in his rookie season. Merriman came from a 3-4 Defense at Maryland, meanwhile Ware played as a Defensive End in a 4-3 at smaller school. Physically Demarcus Ware is a freak; however, he just needs time to develop into a LB. After one season of playing LB and playing well I'm expecting big things from him next year. Also a huge problem is anybody who watches the 3-4 of the Pats, Steelers, and Charagers would notice the blitz packages they utilize. We don't seem to do anything outside of the vanilla looks. Until we utilize our outside rushers better he won't be as effective. A problem IMO is Fujita and Singleton are just not 3-4 outside rush backers. If only we could get Daryl Tapp to fill that spot

 

[ddh33]

I didn't get to see the workouts. I don't know all the measurables. I did see a couple of interviews so I understand why Dallas took Ware. If you had seen them, you would too...

I just said in another thread though that I think it's kind of unfair to compare these two players. They come from different backgrounds. They play in different schemes. They have different responsibilites. They play for coaches who have different points of emphasis.

In the end, I think the Chargers will end up happy with their guy, and I think the Cowboys will like their guy too. Maybe the fans will too...

 

[juice28]

Everybody's impressed with Merriman right now including me. Especially this week after what he did to Peyton, but I still believe that Ware would've had the same, if not better, pass rush on Manning if he was in Merriman' shoes. Ware is not behind Merriman in any talent category. He will succeed tremendously in this league. Anybody who doesn't believe that knows nothing about football other than ESPN highlights.

 

[Clove]

First off, Ware needs a number in the 50's - secondly, when I saw Merriman the other day, I saw a monster.

I saw a super star, vs a star. I hope Ware turns in to a Super Star, and I really really have been rooting for Ware. I just call it like I see it.

 

[Sarge]

I think everybody should've expected Merriman to perform better than Ware in his rookie season. Merriman came from a 3-4 Defense at Maryland, meanwhile Ware played as a Defensive End in a 4-3 at smaller school. Physically Demarcus Ware is a freak; however, he just needs time to develop into a LB. After one season of playing LB and playing well I'm expecting big things from him next year. Also a huge problem is anybody who watches the 3-4 of the Pats, Steelers, and Charagers would notice the blitz packages they utilize. We don't seem to do anything outside of the vanilla looks. Until we utilize our outside rushers better he won't be as effective. A problem IMO is Fujita and Singleton are just not 3-4 outside rush backers. If only we could get Daryl Tapp to fill that spot

He's been playing a down DE much of the year.

 

[alancdc]

SD was lining up Merriman all over the field Sunday. That is how you take advantage of a guy's talent, and Merriman was full out 110% crazy up the field on Sunday. I think Ware will be fine if we would give him better opportunities than lining him up against left tackles all day. If we were as creative with Ware as SD is with Merriman I think his success would be inevetable.

 

[joseephuss]

Actually, what he did was wrong. His job with the Cowboys, which he accepted, was more important than his education at this point, as that degree can be persued after his short working life as a professional athelete.

I speak from experience, although the field that I was in was not professional athletics. I was asked to keep working in a field that I enjoyed, and had great professional opprtunities in, but I decided to go back to get a higher degree. I never got the same opportunites again, as when I graduated, I was considered too old to place in my prior field, and now, in my sixties, I have only a small pension and social security, while my brother, who stayed in the field which I was working in, is now president of three corporations, and his available pension funds total more than I earned my whole working life. Education is good, but accomplishment is better.

Your assumption is that Ware went to classes and never worked out. I would think he did both. He also attended minin-camps. He did nothing wrong by finishing school.

 

[joseephuss]

If we had drafted Merriman and the Chargers had taken Ware all of us would be seeing Ware tear it up over in SD while we were wondering what we were thinking by taking Merriman.

The reason is simple. Mike Zimmer. His bend dont break defense. His contain the run first defense. It takes away from alota these players natural abilities and makes them think to much and play to little.

Ware was considered a top talent coming out. Great athlete and talent and a guy who many think could be a great player. But look now. Merriman is way ahead of him now. Ware started off good but now is fading.

Look at all the talent we brought in on defense. Yet as the games go on our pass rush gets weaker and now is not even there. The turnovers have faded away.

As long as Mike Zimmer and his bend dont break defense is here it will not matter who we bring in we will see players we think are top talent just become average like everyone does under Mike Zimmer.

Like what I say or not.....I guess it will just take for us to get a REAL DC in here for some of you to see what some of us have known all along. When we get a real DC in here and our D is feared and just mad violent then you will wonder why we wasted any time with Zimmer at DC.

Then blame Parcells. He is the one that wanted the 3-4 scheme. He is the head coach. He is the one that sets the tone. He can over rule anything that Zimmer or Payton do. It is his philosophy that both assistant coaches follow.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

If we had drafted Merriman and the Chargers had taken Ware all of us would be seeing Ware tear it up over in SD while we were wondering what we were thinking by taking Merriman.

The reason is simple. Mike Zimmer. His bend dont break defense. His contain the run first defense. It takes away from alota these players natural abilities and makes them think to much and play to little.

Ware was considered a top talent coming out. Great athlete and talent and a guy who many think could be a great player. But look now. Merriman is way ahead of him now. Ware started off good but now is fading.

Look at all the talent we brought in on defense. Yet as the games go on our pass rush gets weaker and now is not even there. The turnovers have faded away.

As long as Mike Zimmer and his bend dont break defense is here it will not matter who we bring in we will see players we think are top talent just become average like everyone does under Mike Zimmer.

Like what I say or not.....I guess it will just take for us to get a REAL DC in here for some of you to see what some of us have known all along. When we get a real DC in here and our D is feared and just mad violent then you will wonder why we wasted any time with Zimmer at DC.

What defensive coordinator do you guys think would be a great fit? Dom Capers may be available very soon--what do you think?

 

[SultanOfSix]

This thread is like the energizer bunny...

 

[AbeBeta]

Your assumption is that Ware went to classes and never worked out. I would think he did both. He also attended minin-camps. He did nothing wrong by finishing school.

That's right Ware went to minicamp.

Where was Merriman during minicamp? Refusing to play.

 

[jimmy40]

That's right Ware went to minicamp.

Where was Merriman during minicamp? Refusing to play.

Really stunted his career, didn't it?