Michael Irvin explains how INTs vs Packers were not Dak's fault

McKDaddy

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Again, he's throwing the ball before Lamb breaks. Hey but what does Irvin know about coverages and route running...lol

What are you talking about? I said I agree on the one to Lamb (2nd one).
 

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Interesting that people latch on to one tweet and repost it over and over again, while starting new threads, in an effort to defend Dak. To each their own but defend the fact that after Dallas went up 28-14, here is what Dak did the rest of the game including OT:

6 of 14 for 58 yards

Not exactly doing much to assist Dallas in winning the game down the stretch.
Team sport champ. You're doing the exact opposite of what you're crying about.
 

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We should be thanking Michael Irvin for the clarification and education.

Again I ask, where were those explanations when the receivers went to deep vs the Eagles and let the defenders make the interceptions?
Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
Irvin has always defended Dak like he always defended Garrett.
He's the same genius who defended Marion Barber constantly despite him ending drive after drive with his 1 yard bursts.
 

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Olsen put the picks on the TE and WR as well
during the game…

But I’m sure 2 HOFs know less than our Cowboys Forum experts.
 

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Mike is a cheerleader

How about not making the throw period?


The HC already blamed Dak for the first one. Nothing to see here
This is a ridiculous point. Passes in the nfl are made in tight windows. How the heck was Dak gonna know in the split second he made the pass that ceedee was going run the wrong way? He supposed to wait and see first? Not even worthy of a response.
 

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I really dont care who is to blame to be honest. Its the same BS every year. Big games the Cowboys as an entire team fold.
Here is what is the same every year. Lose, and I was a big game. Win, and we were supposed to win.
 

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This is a ridiculous point. Passes in the nfl are made in tight windows. How the heck was Dak gonna know in the split second he made the pass that ceedee was going run the wrong way? He supposed to wait and see first? Not even worthy of a response.
Its called an option-route


LEARN FOOTBALL
 

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Dak didn’t see the LB disguising coverage, why? Because he was staring at Lamb the whole time.

That LB who dropped and had inside coverage, so it’s most simply about the “safety”, as Lamb, even if he was supposed to break early, couldn’t as the LB had inside leverage.

Dak didn’t anticipate anything that play. He had garbage situational awareness and was staring where he was going the whole time, and all the safety had to do is read Dak’s eyes to make the pick.

This is clear example of Mike’s homerism and clear of example of Dak’s inability to read disguised coverages. How is Lamb suppose to run a more parallel route with the LB cutting it off?

Dak did not throw it UNTIL Lamb already made his break also. It’s the same thing that was very evident from Denver onward that Dak just throws blindly.
 
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Again I ask, where were those explanations when the receivers went to deep vs the Eagles and let the defenders make the interceptions?
Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
Irvin has always defended Dak like he always defended Garrett.
He's the same genius who defended Marion Barber constantly despite him ending drive after drive with his 1 yard bursts.
It not about other games. Stop the Whatabout ism nonsense. It was about this game and those two plays.
 

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We should be thanking Michael Irvin for the clarification and education.

If Dak is such a "great leader" as you guys claim, surely by now he would have made sure his receivers know what to do in these situations.
But that explanation won't work for his defenders.
That's because this is all crap.
Michael Irvin knows it is. He's spinning another tale to try and defend Dak like always.
 

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If they ran they route right those are completions.

No they aren't, the WR either runs into the DB or gets blown up. The DB starting making his break well before the ball gets thrown. Maybe it wouldn't have been an INT but it's not a good decision and you don't want to make a habit getting your WR blown up.
 

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Same thing on the first. Schultz didn't run his route correctly, thus failed to carry the Safety with him in order to clear out the middle for the trailing CeeDee. That was a timing pattern that would have worked if Schultz had run his route correctly.

He didn't run his route correctly because the LB knocked him off it. Dak took a bad situation and made it a lot worse.
 

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One of the best receivers of all time tells you it wasn’t on Dak…and y’all say he’s lying. Just pathetic lol.
 

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He didn't run his route correctly because the LB knocked him off it. Dak took a bad situation and made it a lot worse.
We blame Dak for not anticipating where his receivers should be and when he does and when the receiver isn’t where he’s suppose to be we are upset at Dak. He wasn’t great yesterday but it wasn’t because of those picks.
 

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Bad route or not it seems clear in back to back games that Safeties are reading and jumping Daks throws right now. I wonder if we don't see Dak pump fake trying to get those guys to bite in the coming weeks.

What is really interesting, and once the All 22 tape comes out this will be pretty obvious (You can see it on the regular broadcast if you look at the replay where Olson is breaking it down) but this is a very good call by Green Bay mixing up coverages. If you look at how the play unfolds they have a high safety and a low saftey. After the snap they break apart just like a normal cover 2, which is what CeeDee is reading. When Ceedee actually starts to break his route it does look like he has space to split the safeties. Dak has the whole view of the field, and sees the corner dropping back as well to show it's actually cover 3, and sees that the middle DB. It was the right read by Dak, I'd be very interested to see someone with a better receiving background than me do a full breakdown on what Lamb should be doing. If his job is to read the safeties on that route I'm not sure it was a bad read, just a really good job by the defense giving a cover 2 look to the receiver while obviously sitting in 3 deep.

Inside receiver reads is where I have to admit my football knowledge is limited. Should Dak have made that throw because he read the coverage correctly? Or should he know that his receiver has a cover 2 read on that play and go elsewhere with the football?
 

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We had two possessions with plenty of time and plenty of time outs. We should have won that game. The rest are just details. Dak simply refuses to take off and run to get a first down when the game is on the line. The very thing that made him great in his rookie year. The very thing that guys like Mahomes and Allen and Burrow do every week. He got his 40 million and he thinks he is Brady or Manning or Montana. Our possessions to win games have look like total crap for a while now.
 

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Those picks were killers, especially the strip/sack fumble recovery that gave us the ball on the 10 right after getting the TD. I was impressed that Dak put it behind him and made some great plays after those and had us up 14 in the 4th quarter even with the 2 picks. What happened to the GREAT DEFENSE today?

Like you said, the great defense got strip sack and ball was on the 10. The game could have been put away right there and the $40mil fraud pass the ball to the wrong team. Momentum shift, hard to get back.
 
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