Michael Sam waived

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rcaldw

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Really? You left because of Sam?

*ignore*
Look I think Michael Sam is a great kid and I wish him success in his football career, but good lord, guys, he was a practice squad guy, lol. He's gone, move on. Lets get some scouting threads on this new linebacker we signed.

Precisely why I'm glad he's gone. A 12 page thread on a practice squad guy.
 

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So distractions during the week don't affect what happens on gameday-turnovers?

I highly doubt adding a player to the practice squad caused Romo to be rusty. It was his worse game of the season by far and it was due to his lack of play in the preseason. It also didn't cause Murray to fumble. 6 straight wins says it isn't an issue.

If you believe otherwise, that's on you.
 

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I highly doubt adding a player to the practice squad caused Romo to be rusty. It was his worse game of the season by far and it was due to his lack of play in the preseason. It also didn't cause Murray to fumble. 6 straight wins says it isn't an issue.

If you believe otherwise, that's on you.

It's Michael Sam's fault we're 6-1...wait, wha...?
 

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A history of producing in the NFL? :huh:

Danny Kanell had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Tim Tebow had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Archie Griffin had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Andre Ware had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Aundrey Bruce had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.

I think you get my point. :)



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It's Michael Sam's fault we're 6-1...wait, wha...?

I simply stated that adding Sam to the PS didnt negatively influence the locker room. Speed seems to think it influenced our week 1 loss. I think that anyone that watched the game knows that is nonsense.

Anyhow, im moving on from this.
 

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I simply stated that adding Sam to the PS didnt negatively influence the locker room. Speed seems to think it influenced our week 1 loss. I think that anyone that watched the game knows that is nonsense.

Anyhow, im moving on from this.

And I totally agree with you. Sorry if my sarcasm wasn't clear.
 

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I simply stated that adding Sam to the PS didnt negatively influence the locker room. Speed seems to think it influenced our week 1 loss. I think that anyone that watched the game knows that is nonsense.

Anyhow, im moving on from this.
Someone claimed that he wasn't a distraction. Using the 6-1 record as proof.

I was pointing out that there was a media storm week 1 that could have been a distraction. You are the one talking nonsense.
 

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Exactly. But my point is that there are plenty of guys who have produced in college who turn out to be total busts in the NFL. What makes you think Sam is any different? College success does not always translate to professional success.



Again, you're making an assumption based on college. You don't know this. You simply project based on his college resume.



Actually, it doesn't back your point. Tebow was given the chance but couldn't capitalize on it. That's why he's out of the NFL, that and his fanatical fan base.
Look, I am/was a HUGE Tebow fan. But even I could see that his game just didn't translate to the NFL well. And, truth be told, Tebow got his start not because he was all that good but because he had a boisterous fan base. In fact, I'm convinced if it were not for his boisterous fan base, Tebow would be in the league today, sitting learning on someone's practice squad. But Tebow is a unique situation because he had a leadership index that was otherworldly. Sam may be a good college player, but I don't believe he is the leader that Tebow was.

Be that as it may, I don't think the facts support your position and this is why I conclude thus:

1. The Rams were willing to pick the first openly gay player on their team.
2. Coach Fisher created a climate where he was willing to protect Sam and allow him a chance to play.
3. He didn't have to draft Sam, but he did.
4. He consulted his team that said they didn't mind Sam's presence on the team as long as he could play.
5. Sam got CUT from the Rams.

Then he gets picked up by the Cowboys. So that should tell you ...

1. The Cowboys thought they saw enough in him to give him a chance DESPITE his sexual orientation.
2. The Cowboys got to see him in practice and evaluate him.
3. The Cowboys CUT him.

You yourself said earlier that you don't think there was an ulterior reason to add Sam to the practice squad. So if there was no ulterior reason, doesn't that mean Sam couldn't cut it as a player in the NFL, which resulted in the Cowboys saying, "See you later?"

Does anyone doubt that if Sam could add to the pass rush and deliver us sacks that he wouldn't be playing now? Teams want to win. If Sam could sack the quarterback - or if the Cowboys were convinced he could - he'd be playing NOW!

Don't need a lesson on Tebow, when I know exactly why he got playing time.

Moral of the story is that many people would of liked to see Sam on the field to see what he can do. Politics hurt his draft stock whether you agree with that or not. PSQUAD is for players who are projects with upside, which Sam has. If Sam doesn't latch himself onto a single practice squad, then it is due to politics. Like I said earlier. Not changing my stance on that. No matter how much you type.
 

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Don't need a lesson on Tebow, when I know exactly why he got playing time.

Moral of the story is that many people would of liked to see Sam on the field to see what he can do. Politics hurt his draft stock whether you agree with that or not. PSQUAD is for players who are projects with upside, which Sam has. If Sam doesn't latch himself onto a single practice squad, then it is due to politics. Like I said earlier. Not changing my stance on that. No matter how much you type.

I don't understand the emotional commitment to Michael Sam. But to each his own.
 

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I don't understand the emotional commitment to Michael Sam. But to each his own.

It's quite obvious. I guarantee you that Szczepanik wouldn't care about Michael Sam AT ALL, if he never announced his sexual preference.
 

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Don't need a lesson on Tebow, when I know exactly why he got playing time.

Oh, that lesson was free. Next time, I may have to charge you. :)

Moral of the story is that many people would of liked to see Sam on the field to see what he can do. Politics hurt his draft stock whether you agree with that or not. PSQUAD is for players who are projects with upside, which Sam has. If Sam doesn't latch himself onto a single practice squad, then it is due to politics. Like I said earlier. Not changing my stance on that. No matter how much you type.

Fine. No one is trying to rob you of your opinion. I simply asked you what makes you an expert. If you say you're not an expert, that's fine with me.

Besides, as the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan said: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts." :)
 

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Good, I think the message is clear moving forward this team is rolling and no side show will be tolerated or any potential distraction. The kid was also overmatched against starting caliber NFL competition. He doesn’t have the seat you like in a defensive lineman against the run, gets blown out to much, he is an offseason project.

On a side note; Spillman should better not renew his lease on his apartment just yet he is on the short list to get cut I’m sure...

The spirit of Jimmy loves in Red!
 

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I love how a practice squad player with minimal pro talent being waived ends up being a 14 page thread.

Lol.
 

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I agree and without a doubt does not deserve 15 pages.

And we have a winner. This thread has had multiple and I mean multiple posts deleted on multiple occasions. This thread has served its purpose however limited or not limited that may have been. It is now closed.

Actually someone beat me to it.
 
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