Michael Sam waived

[fishspill]

Well, we had a good run. Back to .500 football.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well, we had a good run. Back to .500 football.

 

[xwalker]

The same brain that openly mocked Marinelli the entire offseason and basically insinuated we'd be fielding the worst defense in the history of professional sports?

The same brain that openly mocked Crawford's potential as a DL?

Sounds to me like you need a new brain.

This might be my favorite post ever.

 

[speedkilz88]

I can remember the criticism from many posters on this very forum claiming it would be a circus and a distraction with him on the team. 6-1 record and probably the best chemistry we have seen from this team in quite some time. So much for that theory.

That first week there was a media storm. They coincidentally lost that game. No way of knowing if that had anything to do with it. But it would have been smarter not to have any distraction that week.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not reading through 11 pages or whatever, so maybe this been posted.

A reason given, but can't remember who said, or what show.
The Cowboys needed some DL help, especially for practices. Then Spencer comes back, Selvie, gets healthy, even DT's though Sam was a DE, Melton, MCClain getting more healthy. Okoye cleared to practice, Brent practicing, D. Lawerence about to return. so was heavy on DL, and needed LB'ers to help to add for numbers at that position.

 

[theSHOW]

DeMarcus Ware isn't on our 53. Jeremy Mincey is.

You'll never understand me because I use my brain when evaluating football. I don't blindly assume my team makes all the right decisions. Especially when they haven't won anything since Clinton's first term.

Risen blindly assumes the Cowboys make all the wrong decisions. And then the usual slam on the Cowboys record added to the backend of the post. Somebody is missing DeMarcus in a big way. Thing I wonder about is with you're 50 posts a day why do you slam the Cowboys in 90% of those comments made?

Risen u want a like I give u one
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[xwalker]

The same brain that openly mocked Marinelli the entire offseason and basically insinuated we'd be fielding the worst defense in the history of professional sports?

The same brain that openly mocked Crawford's potential as a DL?

Sounds to me like you need a new brain.

Did I mention favorite post ever?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Not reading through 11 pages or whatever, so maybe this been posted.

A reason given, but can't remember who said, or what show.
The Cowboys needed some DL help, especially for practices. Then Spencer comes back, Selvie, gets healthy, even DT's though Sam was a DE, Melton, MCClain getting more healthy. Okoye cleared to practice, Brent practicing, D. Lawerence about to return. so was heavy on DL, and needed LB'ers to help to add for numbers at that position.

Makes sense.

 

[Szczepanik]

A history of producing in the NFL?

Danny Kanell had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Tim Tebow had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Archie Griffin had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Andre Ware had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.
Aundrey Bruce had a history of producing ... in COLLEGE.

I think you get my point.

Considering he was a ROOKIE he would have to produce in COLLEGE.

My point is that he needed some NFL snaps there , which should of been quite obvious by my post, but I apologize for not making that clear.

Tebow also had plenty of NFL oppurtunity and game time, something Sam didn't get to see. Also backing my point.

 

[jrumann59]

Considering he was a ROOKIE he would have to produce in COLLEGE.

My point is that he needed some NFL snaps there , which should of been quite obvious by my post, but I apologize for not making that clear.

Tebow also had plenty of NFL oppurtunity and game time, something Sam didn't get to see. Also backing my point.

PS guys are usually guys of last resort. If the only thing you have as proof he can play is what he did in the PS vs 2nd, 3rd and other PS guys and you do not see much in practice it is hard to justify dropping a guy that may make 1 play out of 10 or 15 snaps now for a guy that may make none. Sometimes it is the devil you know that PSers lose out to.

 

[Wayne02]

Considering he was a ROOKIE he would have to produce in COLLEGE.

My point is that he needed some NFL snaps there , which should of been quite obvious by my post, but I apologize for not making that clear.

Tebow also had plenty of NFL oppurtunity and game time, something Sam didn't get to see. Also backing my point.

Tim Tebow was also a 1st round pick, Michael Sam was a bottom of the 7th round pick and probably 80% of those guys don't make NFL rosters, so what makes Sam so special?

 

[sbark]

I hope we bring him back tomorrow. It'd be addition by subtraction (For this board).

for sure.......the NFL should create a special roster position

Considering he was a ROOKIE he would have to produce in COLLEGE.

My point is that he needed some NFL snaps there , which should of been quite obvious by my post, but I apologize for not making that clear.

Tebow also had plenty of NFL oppurtunity and game time, something Sam didn't get to see. Also backing my point.

I'd presume on the practice squad he was on the scout team.......getting snaps against Free and Parnell as they prepared for the next team.......they saw what he brought to the table, gotta presume it wasn't enough to invest years of development, this move gives him a chance to catch on to another team that can use him quicker...........

 

[jrumann59]

I think guys like Sam would have benefitted from the World League.

 

[Smith22]

That first week there was a media storm. They coincidentally lost that game. No way of knowing if that had anything to do with it. But it would have been smarter not to have any distraction that week.

We lost week 1 due to turnovers and Romo being extremely rusty.

 

[tyke1doe]

Considering he was a ROOKIE he would have to produce in COLLEGE.

Exactly. But my point is that there are plenty of guys who have produced in college who turn out to be total busts in the NFL. What makes you think Sam is any different? College success does not always translate to professional success.

My point is that he needed some NFL snaps there , which should of been quite obvious by my post, but I apologize for not making that clear.

Again, you're making an assumption based on college. You don't know this. You simply project based on his college resume.

Tebow also had plenty of NFL oppurtunity and game time, something Sam didn't get to see. Also backing my point.

Actually, it doesn't back your point. Tebow was given the chance but couldn't capitalize on it. That's why he's out of the NFL, that and his fanatical fan base.
Look, I am/was a HUGE Tebow fan. But even I could see that his game just didn't translate to the NFL well. And, truth be told, Tebow got his start not because he was all that good but because he had a boisterous fan base. In fact, I'm convinced if it were not for his boisterous fan base, Tebow would be in the league today, sitting learning on someone's practice squad. But Tebow is a unique situation because he had a leadership index that was otherworldly. Sam may be a good college player, but I don't believe he is the leader that Tebow was.

Be that as it may, I don't think the facts support your position and this is why I conclude thus:

1. The Rams were willing to pick the first openly gay player on their team.
2. Coach Fisher created a climate where he was willing to protect Sam and allow him a chance to play.
3. He didn't have to draft Sam, but he did.
4. He consulted his team that said they didn't mind Sam's presence on the team as long as he could play.
5. Sam got CUT from the Rams.

Then he gets picked up by the Cowboys. So that should tell you ...

1. The Cowboys thought they saw enough in him to give him a chance DESPITE his sexual orientation.
2. The Cowboys got to see him in practice and evaluate him.
3. The Cowboys CUT him.

You yourself said earlier that you don't think there was an ulterior reason to add Sam to the practice squad. So if there was no ulterior reason, doesn't that mean Sam couldn't cut it as a player in the NFL, which resulted in the Cowboys saying, "See you later?"

Does anyone doubt that if Sam could add to the pass rush and deliver us sacks that he wouldn't be playing now? Teams want to win. If Sam could sack the quarterback - or if the Cowboys were convinced he could - he'd be playing NOW!

 

[speedkilz88]

We lost week 1 due to turnovers and Romo being extremely rusty.

So distractions during the week don't affect what happens on gameday-turnovers?

 

[tyke1doe]

Tim Tebow was also a 1st round pick, Michael Sam was a bottom of the 7th round pick and probably 80% of those guys don't make NFL rosters, so what makes Sam so special?

Good point. Higher draft picks are given more chances to fail. If they're not players, they fail. Hence Tebow. Look, I like Tebow and loved the intangibles he brought/brings to the game. But I wish someone had worked on his accuracy when he was in high school and college. Absolutely horrendous. And, again, this is coming from a guy who was hoping Tebow could perform a miracle and become an accurate QB.

 

[casmith07]

Look I think Michael Sam is a great kid and I wish him success in his football career, but good lord, guys, he was a practice squad guy, lol. He's gone, move on. Lets get some scouting threads on this new linebacker we signed.

 

[casmith07]

I think guys like Sam would have benefitted from the World League.

Absolutely. Marginal players getting a chance to work on things in practice with (trusted?) football coaches and then being able to apply those techniques to live game action.

That's the one thing I think the NFL is really missing....I think a farm system or developmental league in the United States would actually work wonders rather than shoe-horning games into Wembley Stadium.

 

[casmith07]

I don't think Risen was being serious there. He can't have been, because he's touting his track record, which we've all seen is not much more than a collection of strong declarations and some pretending to look the other way when the frequent mistakes are brought up.

The good news is, the frequency of the words 'fanboy,' 'foam finger,' and 'slop' have decreased on CZ over the last several weeks. That's been kind of nice.

Foamboy. Fan Finger.