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Romo 2 Austin;3968748 said:
The live events are nothing like the TV show's, its a ton of excellent wrestling and has constantly been praised as the best wrestling show going on. Google TNA house reviews, you'll find excellent things about it.

Again the only 2 wrestlers I care about in TNA are Sting & Kurt & I've seen them more times live combined than you have years on this earth...I would not pay to go see a product I have very little interest in. I know who their wrestlers are..I am sure for some it's the best wrestling ever but not my cup of tea..not for me. It's just preference..nothing more.
 

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zrinkill;3968871 said:
You and 90% of wrestling fans.

I'm an old fart but my wrestling "fandom" is no different than most sports fans who like certain players & will pay to go see their favorite. I like all the bells & whistles WWE offers..I know it's not hardcore wrestling..it's not ECW type stuff but I like the atmosphere..the production. Wrestling has always been silly fun to me.
 

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DallasGirl50;3968894 said:
I'm an old fart but my wrestling "fandom" is no different than most sports fans who like certain players & will pay to go see their favorite. I like all the bells & whistles WWE offers..I know it's not hardcore wrestling..it's not ECW type stuff but I like the atmosphere..the production. Wrestling has always been silly fun to me.

The production, writing, skill of wrestlers, all of it is so superior its not even a contest.
 

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zrinkill;3968916 said:
The production, writing, skill of wrestlers, all of it is so superior its not even a contest.

Only production is far "superior". Skill of wrestlers goes to TNA, no doubt your just a blind WWE homer & Writing of Raw & iMPACT is a wash... Only SmackDown is superior.
 

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zrinkill;3968916 said:
The production, writing, skill of wrestlers, all of it is so superior its not even a contest.


The production value is much much better in WWE, no doubt. However, wrestling ability and writing are definately not much better in the WWE than TNA. The writing is pretty awful in both actually and wrestling ability.. well that's a toss up. Both companies have some pretty damn skilled guys and some guys who are stiff and just bad in ring too.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3968427 said:
The difference is this.. WWE has not always "kept on trucking".. They fell from a dominant #1, to a failing #2 quickly.... TNA wouldn't go bankrupt without Styles, but they would HAVE to develop another megastar, and there is no one in the industry that could fill AJ's shoes currently. He is exactly what TNA needs on top, doesn't matter if you like him or not, but there is not one person who could get that over with the TNA audience.

Only close example is John Cena with WWE, and around 40% of the audience wishes he would never be on TV again... Actually, Edge is the perfect example.. I've never heard a WWE fan not like Edge, same with TNA fans and Styles.

WWE kept on trucking as in they didn't go bankrupt and closed down. They got knocked down for a while but kept going, building, and eventually put their competition out of business.

You made the statement that TNA would fold shortly afterwards if they lost AJ. I didn't say that. You did. That's the difference. WWE hasn't ever gone down like that cause of the loss of one wrestler.

In fact the example you're trying to use was after the loss of several top flight wrestlers, not one, thus making your counter point completely invalid to your comment that TNA would be done without AJ.



Romo 2 Austin;3968433 said:
Difference is, if AJ was gold on the mic it wouldn't help as much as others. I know it sounds insane, but the TNA core audience is built on fans that love wrestling, in ring wrestling. Your not finding more than 3-4 people in the world on AJ's level right now. While as an on-screen character those that love AJ styles and respect what he did would still watch him, not a great example since Edge is gold on the mic, but people would still watch him... Better example, Bret Hart, AJ is very similar to him as he is "the best in the world" in the right, but average or slightly above average at best on the mic(although i'd give AJ the edge, as Bret is just plain boring on the mic. AJ can hold his own with some of the greats on the stick.), people still tune in to see Bret, and he's had a stroke, been out of the ring 10 years+ & is average at best on the mic. People respect what he accomplished, would be the same with AJ as an on-screen character in TNA.

Whatever you think man. Trust me no one is tuning in every week to watch Bret Hart bumble around on the mic, respecting his career or not. If he was on, every single week, in an important on screen role people wouldn't be tuning in to see that, outside of the really hardcore Bret Hart fans. Cause he's simply not good enough on the mic. Doesn't matter what he used to do in the ring the fact is he cant do it anymore.

The same would go for AJ. He'd have his rabid fans who would still tune in to watch him bore a person, like watching paint peel, on the mic but the by and large wrestling fan community (Which is what you need to gain your ratings and pull more and more buys) simply wouldnt. They'd respect what he did, they'd cheer if he showed up once in a while, they'd be thrilled if he had a short term on screen role. Anything more than that and they'd become bored, cause he's average on the mic, and simply wouldn't draw people in without his in-ring abilities.



Romo 2 Austin;3968434 said:
That's your right, but if you ever see TNA coming around look into it. You will not ever hear a bad thing about a TNA house show that isn't ridiculous, they always deliver in the ring and usually have an interesting promo on them.

This is complete and total crap. I've had a couple of friends who've worked for TNA, in security, and such. Did so for years and they, as employees of TNA and wanting to see them succeed, had just as much bad to say about the show as they had good.

So sell that bill of BS somewhere else.

Romo 2 Austin;3968900 said:
more like 60%.. 1.2 rating vs 3.1 rating, is what 33%.. Not 10%. Sorry mr WWE fanboy.

Romo 2 Austin;3968983 said:
Only production is far "superior". Skill of wrestlers goes to TNA, no doubt your just a blind WWE homer & Writing of Raw & iMPACT is a wash... Only SmackDown is superior.

Man, seriously, shut up with this. I'm beyond sick at this point of you calling him a WWE homer and fanboy when you can look back at your posts and see that you're far and way (it's really not even a contest at this point) the biggest fan boy in this entire thread. You calling anyone else a homer or a fan boy is beyond stupid at this point and it's more than a little tiring.


RoyTheHammer;3969345 said:
The production value is much much better in WWE, no doubt. However, wrestling ability and writing are definately not much better in the WWE than TNA. The writing is pretty awful in both actually and wrestling ability.. well that's a toss up. Both companies have some pretty damn skilled guys and some guys who are stiff and just bad in ring too.


Take notes kid. This is how you post as an objective wrestling fan of TNA (Or WWE). If you had half the clue that Roy does you'd be light years ahead of where you are now.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3969380 said:
WWE kept on trucking as in they didn't go bankrupt and closed down. They got knocked down for a while but kept going, building, and eventually put their competition out of business.

You made the statement that TNA would fold shortly afterwards if they lost AJ. I didn't say that. You did. That's the difference. WWE hasn't ever gone down like that cause of the loss of one wrestler.

In fact the example you're trying to use was after the loss of several top flight wrestlers, not one, thus making your counter point completely invalid to your comment that TNA would be done without AJ.





Whatever you think man. Trust me no one is tuning in every week to watch Bret Hart bumble around on the mic, respecting his career or not. If he was on, every single week, in an important on screen role people wouldn't be tuning in to see that, outside of the really hardcore Bret Hart fans. Cause he's simply not good enough on the mic. Doesn't matter what he used to do in the ring the fact is he cant do it anymore.

The same would go for AJ. He'd have his rabid fans who would still tune in to watch him bore a person, like watching paint peel, on the mic but the by and large wrestling fan community (Which is what you need to gain your ratings and pull more and more buys) simply wouldnt. They'd respect what he did, they'd cheer if he showed up once in a while, they'd be thrilled if he had a short term on screen role. Anything more than that and they'd become bored, cause he's average on the mic, and simply wouldn't draw people in without his in-ring abilities.





This is complete and total crap. I've had a couple of friends who've worked for TNA, in security, and such. Did so for years and they, as employees of TNA and wanting to see them succeed, had just as much bad to say about the show as they had good.

So sell that bill of BS somewhere else.





Man, seriously, shut up with this. I'm beyond sick at this point of you calling him a WWE homer and fanboy when you can look back at your posts and see that you're far and way (it's really not even a contest at this point) the biggest fan boy in this entire thread. You calling anyone else a homer or a fan boy is beyond stupid at this point and it's more than a little tiring.





Take notes kid. This is how you post as an objective wrestling fan of TNA (Or WWE). If you had half the clue that Roy does you'd be light years ahead of where you are now.
Seriously?

I've said more negative about TNA than I have WWE, he has said nothing negative about WWE and 1 think positive about TNA, of course, Kurt Angle. So your absolutely out of your freakin' mind thinking im 1/1000th the homer he is, do I prefer TNA? oh no doubt, I prefer the edgier product rather than the one booked for 6 year olds where the hottest program has a guy being streotypical and ranting about "lil-jimmy". come on. I'm not close to a homer and your being insane if you think I am.

What have I said positive about TNA? Things 90% of the world besides WWE-Freak Homers like Zrinkill would agree with? Yeah I must a terrible fan boy! I know every TNA fan boy praises things WWE does, oh wait no they don't. I guess every WWE fan boy praises TNA, oh wait no they don't. Oh and Zrinkill doesn't.

Get real, you know your talking out your *** calling me close to the fanboy that Zrinkill is.

& I didn't say the TNA iMPACT show, I said the House Shows. Unlike WWE which puts complete **** on their house shows, TNA puts great matchups and interesting angles from time to time.
and AJ on the mic isn't "like watching paint peel".

and then you quote RTH when he says basically exactly what I said and tell me to be more like him? what the hell, that makes no freaking sense at all. You want to join the ranks of people that jump on everything I say and call me an idiot even though a ton of other people say exactly the same thing? Great, you must feel cool joining the majority of people. My opinions are not "radical", as Zrinkills obviously are as if Vince McMahon told him to accept Eric Young as the top guy in the company, in a matter of seconds Zrinkill would be ordering every Eric Young shirt there is and saying how great he is. Guys ridiculous.

Your obviously not giving me a fair shake, as if you actually did read most of the posts in the wrestling threads you would undoubtedly agree that Zrinkill is a homer, i'm not. I probably watch more WWE recently than TNA infact, as I am done with the Angle-Jarrett stuff, I hate the female booking and I hate Tommy Dreamer with a passion so had been fast forwarding his segments, thank god he is gone. On WWE only fast forward Alberto Del Joke recently.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3969380 said:
Man, seriously, shut up with this. I'm beyond sick at this point of you calling him a WWE homer and fanboy when you can look back at your posts and see that you're far and way (it's really not even a contest at this point) the biggest fan boy in this entire thread. You calling anyone else a homer or a fan boy is beyond stupid at this point and it's more than a little tiring.

I suggest you put the ignorant child on ignore ...... Its glorious ..... except when you guys quote the fanboy bile.
 

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BraveheartFan...I was going to quote your whole post but really only wanted to post about Bret who you mentioned....Bret is one of the very best wrestlers I've ever seen...he really was that good. The stuff he does now for WWE is just fluff stuff. You know that but if you put it in the context of this was a guy that suffered a stroke & all he's been thru I think it's an achievement for him to do even that. I think when Owen died that is was extremely hard for Bret. He's actually a quiet guy & he is not comfortable on the mic. He was a special wrestler though. He was great!
 

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DallasGirl50;3969416 said:
BraveheartFan...I was going to quote your whole post but really only wanted to post about Bret who you mentioned....Bret is one of the very best wrestlers I've ever seen...he really was that good. The stuff he does now for WWE is just fluff stuff. You know that but if you put it in the context of this was a guy that suffered a stroke & all he's been thru I think it's an achievement for him to do even that. I think when Owen died that is was extremely hard for Bret. He's actually a quiet guy & he is not comfortable on the mic. He was a special wrestler though. He was great!
Dead on.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3969387 said:
Seriously?

I've said more negative about TNA than I have WWE, he has said nothing negative about WWE and 1 think positive about TNA, of course, Kurt Angle. So your absolutely out of your freakin' mind thinking im 1/1000th the homer he is, do I prefer TNA? oh no doubt, I prefer the edgier product rather than the one booked for 6 year olds where the hottest program has a guy being streotypical and ranting about "lil-jimmy". come on. I'm not close to a homer and your being insane if you think I am.

What have I said positive about TNA? Things 90% of the world besides WWE-Freak Homers like Zrinkill would agree with? Yeah I must a terrible fan boy! I know every TNA fan boy praises things WWE does, oh wait no they don't. I guess every WWE fan boy praises TNA, oh wait no they don't. Oh and Zrinkill doesn't.

Get real, you know your talking out your *** calling me close to the fanboy that Zrinkill is.


I stopped reading here (and along with your PM) I feel no reason to give it any further credibility or anything else.

The fact that you stated 90% of people would agree with you on what you say about TNA is exactly why you're no better a homer than he is. I couldn't care less how pissed off you are about it or how much you whine about it or how much you want people to believe otherwise.

When you make blanket statements like that you only further enforce the fact that you're as much a homer as the guy you're crying at (who stopped paying attention to you a long time ago kid. Maybe you should have taken note of that fact) for being one.

It's sad, really, because you do have some solid things to say on this particular subject, which is why I have agreed with some things you've said, but you completely ruin it by running your mouth with an attitude about how you're always right because PWI told you so.

This is the last post I make to you, about anything, cause I've more than grown tired of your stupid little act and I'm not joining with others in blocking you.


DallasGirl50;3969416 said:
BraveheartFan...I was going to quote your whole post but really only wanted to post about Bret who you mentioned....Bret is one of the very best wrestlers I've ever seen...he really was that good. The stuff he does now for WWE is just fluff stuff. You know that but if you put it in the context of this was a guy that suffered a stroke & all he's been thru I think it's an achievement for him to do even that. I think when Owen died that is was extremely hard for Bret. He's actually a quiet guy & he is not comfortable on the mic. He was a special wrestler though. He was great!

I agree.

Don't get what I'm saying here twisted or take it wrong. Hart was a fantastic worker in the ring. Put on outstanding matches and was over for that fact.

I take nothing away from the guys in-ring ability. He was second to none. But he's average, maybe slightly above average (Cause you factor in the Anti-American/Pro-Canadian stuff when he was heel, a time when I felt he was brilliant), but he didn't need to be anymore than that cause he was so dang great in the ring, and at a time when the WWF really needed a top guy like him to carry the torch.

I have great respect for Bret Hart. Without a doubt.
 

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OK braveheart...I totally get what you are saying about Bret...I think Bret is one of those wrestlers that could do without the nonsense/storylines & just wrestle. He grew up with a heavyhanded father who expected great things from his boys..and Bret & Owen delivered..Bret particularly. He really had as good in ring skills as any I ever saw. My heart sank when I heard he had a stroke so I am really glad to see him in any capacity for WWE!
 

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Speaking of Hitman, I saw this today:


http://www.gerweck.net/2011/06/08/bret-hart-and-mick-foley-headlining-chicago-event/

Press Release
Date- June 8th ,2011
Location-Chicago,IL


Pro Championship Wrestling (PCW) is proud to announce its 10 year Anniversary Show DREAM NIGHT 10, with special guests WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart and Hardcore Legend Mick Foley. Also just announced Impact Wrestling Knockout Rosita will be in action.


Also making a special appearance will be Chicago horror TV Host Sevngoolie, and from the Chicago Sun Times “Quick Hits” Column Elliot Harris.


Date- Saturday June 18th, 2011
Time-Doors open at 5 PM, Bell Time 6 PM
Location-The Oak Lawn Pavilion, 9401 Oak Park Ave Oak Lawn, IL
Tickets – General Admission $15.00


For more info and to purchase tickets go to www.pcwwrestling.net
or advance tickets can be purchased at Hell Fire comics at the Chicago Ridge Mall. Call for info and hours : 708-423-FIRE.






http://www.pcwwrestling.net/page/page/4738728.htm
 

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Phoenix;3969947 said:
Pro Championship Wrestling (PCW) is proud to announce its 10 year Anniversary Show DREAM NIGHT 10, with special guests WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart and Hardcore Legend Mick Foley. Also just announced Impact Wrestling Knockout Rosita will be in action.

I really wish that were going to be on TV.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3969905 said:
I stopped reading here (and along with your PM) I feel no reason to give it any further credibility or anything else.

The fact that you stated 90% of people would agree with you on what you say about TNA is exactly why you're no better a homer than he is. I couldn't care less how pissed off you are about it or how much you whine about it or how much you want people to believe otherwise.

When you make blanket statements like that you only further enforce the fact that you're as much a homer as the guy you're crying at (who stopped paying attention to you a long time ago kid. Maybe you should have taken note of that fact) for being one.

It's sad, really, because you do have some solid things to say on this particular subject, which is why I have agreed with some things you've said, but you completely ruin it by running your mouth with an attitude about how you're always right because PWI told you so.

This is the last post I make to you, about anything, cause I've more than grown tired of your stupid little act and I'm not joining with others in blocking you.

Your not blocking me? Suprising.

and I'm not a "homer" I make blanket statements about everything, 90% of people would agree that AJ Styles is a fantastic worker, 90% of people would agree TNA is more edgier and focused at a more young adult demographic than WWE. I never said anything mental like TNA is bigger than WWE, I said in a few years they will hit a huge growth spurt when this current WWE generation of fans grows up, go to the shows, atleast 20-25% of the people are under 10, and unless WWE grows with them and goes back to edgier products, they will look elsewhere, and that elsewhere will be TNA as they wont go from entertainment based WWE to pure-wrestling ROH.

That's the only "radical" statements I have made. :confused:


and hate to sound arrogant, but what about wrestling have I posted has ever been proven wrong? Yes I am arrogant about wrestling, because I watch as much as I possibily can, From WWE to TNA, from ROH to PWG, from DGUSA to CMLL. When I'm bored, I watch wrestling. I've seen Johnny Gargano perform a ton of times.. And most of you don't know who that is, while he is one of the quickly rising names on the Indy scene. I know my wrestling, and because I don't like WWE the most doesn't make me a homer. That's like calling someone who prefers College Football a homer, it doesn't make any sense.

I also don't know what act, It's not an act. There is not one thing I prefer that is the most popular thing in its category, besides' the Dallas Cowboys.. Music: Rock & Metal, TV shows Sci-fi, hate summer, love winter, hate beaches love snow. Pretty much whatever the majority of people like, I like the opposite, and its not intentional, it's just how it is. It's not an act to piss people off, anyone who would do that for over 7500 posts on a football forum really needs to get a life.
 

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Phoenix;3969947 said:
Speaking of Hitman, I saw this today:


http://www.gerweck.net/2011/06/08/bret-hart-and-mick-foley-headlining-chicago-event/

Press Release
Date- June 8th ,2011
Location-Chicago,IL


Pro Championship Wrestling (PCW) is proud to announce its 10 year Anniversary Show DREAM NIGHT 10, with special guests WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart and Hardcore Legend Mick Foley. Also just announced Impact Wrestling Knockout Rosita will be in action.


Also making a special appearance will be Chicago horror TV Host Sevngoolie, and from the Chicago Sun Times “Quick Hits” Column Elliot Harris.


Date- Saturday June 18th, 2011
Time-Doors open at 5 PM, Bell Time 6 PM
Location-The Oak Lawn Pavilion, 9401 Oak Park Ave Oak Lawn, IL
Tickets – General Admission $15.00


For more info and to purchase tickets go to www.pcwwrestling.net
or advance tickets can be purchased at Hell Fire comics at the Chicago Ridge Mall. Call for info and hours : 708-423-FIRE. Too far for me...thanks for sharing. Sounds like a good time.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3969990 said:
Terry Funk wins a promotions championship over the weekend.. Why? He's like 72 or something.

I saw Chavo SR. wrestle not long ago and he's in his 60's...it's a little thing that's green & it's called money. Terry can still wrestle enough to make money I guess.
 
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