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MichaelWinicki;1079419 said:
How long before Bledsoe loses this team Dooms?

The O-line is going to get lambasted this week for sacks that weren't their fault.

Owens is starting to lose patience... and I don't blame him.

exactly. and before a team implosion, id rather go with romo.

you are what you are, as our esteemed coach once said. and at this point, bledsoe is a qb with an above average arm, who, over his career, has never developed a "pocket presence", is more easily rattled than earlier in his career, probably bc of all the hits hes taken over the years, and simply makes mistakes someone whose been around as long as he has shouldnt.

what do you lose with romo? really?

ill make an assumption that our offensive staff has gameplanned some means to get TO, witten and fasano more involved, but unless bledsoe is kept entirely clean, hes going to TG. thats his security blanket. weapons are being wasted.

i honestly believe that romo would make our offense more lethal bc he DOESNT have that history/rapport with one receiver, therefore, he will run the offense and take whats available. meaning more people involved.

yes, weve got to stop the big plays on defense. and a little better blitz pickup wont hurt either. but our running game is good, our defense is pretty steady overall. offensive blunders or missed opportunities haunt this team in its two losses this season and i think there is a direct correlation to them and bledsoe's play.

sit him down. hes gunshy and done, IMO.
 

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Screw The Hall;1079422 said:
I disagree that putting Romo in is giving up. If you are convinced he's not the answer then OK, but how could you be at this point. To me keeping Bledoe in is settling, and just like with choosing a good women, that's never a good thing.

edit --- I meant to make this a response to SkinsandTerps post

Fair enough. My fear is this: with a young QB typically, you shut down half your offense. He is going into his what 4th year ? And never taken a regular season snap ? Thats kinda worrisome.

Its so much easier to say a guy on the sidelines would be better. But I really dont know. Unfortunately NFLN just starting showing all of the pre-season games last year, so I have only seen bits and pieces of Romo.

I would say that at this point the Cowboys wouldnt be settling, they would be remaining optimistic and trying to continue to build on the relationship. Lets not forget all of the practice time that TO missed, that timing simply hasnt been fully established yet.
 

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Zaxor;1079470 said:
actually it look more like Rivera getting his butt handed to him more often than not...(another of the ones I complained about signing)

I think Rivera should get a tattoo of Howard's name on his butt cheek after that game because he was Howard's prison bi...I am sure you know what I mean.
 

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Doomsday101;1079377 said:
It was a tough game but excuse me if I'm not jumping on the Romo wagon right now. Bledsoe did some good things in this game and yes made mistakes but I still feel Dallas best chance this season is with Bledsoe. Once Romo enters the season is pretty much done.

I might be Bledsoe's biggest supporter on this board since Nors. Yow. I'm the anti-Winicki to a fault.

I've met the guy a couple of times and you'll never meet a more decent human being or a tougher one. The TD dive ended with 3 Philly defenders ringing Drew's bell. He got up looking shell shocked yet continued to play. The guy also ran for 3 other first downs. He wants to win, badly.

But like everyone else I threw something at the TV on the last 2
Bledsoe INTs. One was a bad throw, the other a stupid throw. Our QB lost that game. And our QB lost the Jax game. Sure a combination of better line play and defensive big play improvements may have overcome Drew's screw-ups but if the loss can be pinned on one guy it's Drew. Absolutely.

If Bledsoe continues to QB for the 16 game schedule maybe these will be the only 2 times we can outright blame Bledsoe. That's my hope. If we miss the playoffs or home field advantage or whatever it will be perfectly legitimate to blame Bledsoe because of these two games.

But that's as negative as I'm going to get. I think as far as QB pressure goes
we've already experienced the worst of it. Philly will not be able to bring that kind of pressure in our house. And the rest of our opponents won't equal Philly's efforts. We've played our 2 toughest away opponents.

I see us going 11-5 and Bledsoe playing markedly better.

One last thing. TOs routes suck. He starts, stops, changes speeds mid-route
and alligator armed 2 passes yesterday. Playing in the pre-season with Bledsoe would have helped alot. It's not luck that Glenn and Bledsoe hook up so well, it's experience.
 

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Zaxor;1079455 said:
I agree.. in fact it MAY actually save the season...but even if it dooms us to losing atleast we are losing while trying to get better than losing while not... sorta like bailing water on a sinking ship instead of just covering your eyes and pretending that there are no holes...

We really get to test Parcells "progress stopper" comment here. Few times has the situation been more indicative of the spirit of that statement than now.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1079384 said:
We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.

Dead on....:hammer:
 

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Cbz40;1079488 said:
Well this Old mans patience has just hit the :banghead: It's past time for a change at the QB position.

As has already been said "whats the difference between a 27th rated QB and the 28th?

I don't care what anyone says, Romo could not do any worse than what we have now.


when Tom was changing out Craig and Roger... neither one really won the battle outright...

Craig threw a better ball and had more exp.

Roger had mobility and some cockiness

it wasn't until later that we discovered the intangiables Roger had

Tom later stated he wasn't sure he had made the right decision even after that miraculous comeback against SF...but it was the way Roger won the players around him that finally put Tom at ease...

now having said all that have you ever seen a o-lineman help Bledsoe to his feet?...what about Witten?...JJ?....

Romo seems to have won his teammates over...or atleast that is how it looks to this untrained eye
 

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SultanOfSix;1079461 said:
It's human nature to be upset with failure. However, the point your missing is we ALREADY KNOW what we have in Bledsoe. Most of those calling for a change are fed up with his usual breakdowns when the pressure is on. This is not an IMPETUOUS decision. This is something that has been happening continuously.

We don't know what we have in Romo, except we do know that BP does think he is ready enough. Well, if he's ready enough, it's time to put him in the game because we need to know if he's the future or we need one, because there is NO FUTURE OR PRESENT with Bledsoe.

I understand that. Fans don't know what we have in Romo I understand that I also understand and I'm thankful fans do not run this team because the fact is you don't know because your not there your not seeing these guys day in and day out you don't know. Parcells does have a better ideal than fans do he is there and does see what is taking place. Playing musical QB's is not a great way to go and it will give a sense to the team that we have thrown in the towel and I think that would be a big mistake after only 4 games into a season.
 

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Zaxor;1079555 said:
when Tom was changing out Craig and Roger... neither one really won the battle outright...

Craig threw a better ball and had more exp.

Roger had mobility and some cockiness

it wasn't until later that we discovered the intangiables Roger had

Tom later stated he wasn't sure he had made the right decision even after that miraculous comeback against SF...but it was the way Roger won the players around him that finally put Tom at ease...

now having said all that have you ever seen a o-lineman help Bledsoe to his feet?...what about Witten?...JJ?....

Romo seems to have won his teammates over...or atleast that is how it looks to this untrained eye


You make an excellent analogy. From what I saw in preseason Romo just may have some of those intangiables.

Why stay with a QB that is impossible to protect? At the very least we know Romo can buy himself some time in the pocket.
 

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The fact according to Garp is that Romo has the ability to make plays when things break down. Bledsoe is a fighter but That one sack in the 4th happens to rookies not veteran QBs. This game reminds me of the 1st game in Philly in 92, Aikman was sacked about 7 times, the boys won the 2d game then beat philly in the playoffs, but they play a more aggressive game back then.
 

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Cbz40;1079596 said:
You make an excellent analogy. From what I saw in preseason Romo just may have some of those intangiables.

Why stay with a QB that is impossible to protect? At the very least we know Romo can buy himself some time in the pocket.

agreed a 14 year vet knowing that we are playing a field position game...that would rather take a sack than throw the ball away has a screw or two loose
 

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Doomsday101;1079570 said:
I understand that. Fans don't know what we have in Romo I understand that I also understand and I'm thankful fans do not run this team because the fact is you don't know because your not there your not seeing these guys day in and day out you don't know. Parcells does have a better ideal than fans do he is there and does see what is taking place. Playing musical QB's is not a great way to go and it will give a sense to the team that we have thrown in the towel and I think that would be a big mistake after only 4 games into a season.



Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)
 

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Zaxor;1079470 said:
actually it look more like Rivera getting his butt handed to him more often than not...(another of the ones I complained about signing)

Not Only Rivera---Flo looked as much like a statue as Bledsoe. Flo --trade him
to SF so they will have the unmovable duo back together
 

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MichaelWinicki;1079637 said:
Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)

You smell Romo. When or if the time comes I'll pull for Romo after all I do like him but unlike some I don't over react after a loss and you guys do and do it every time this team drops a game. I know Romo is not the starter and if the intent was to make him the starter this year he would be out there and the fact is he is not. If you throw him out there and he fails the you same bunch of chicken littles will be clamering on about getting rid of him as well. Sorry I don't believe you run a team off emotions and evidently you guys do because you prove it every time this team hits a bump in the road.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1079384 said:
We're done now. We're like a zombie that doesn't know it's dead and won't fall over.

Bledsoe can get us to 9-7 or 10-6.

But he's too easily defensed by good defenses to expect this team to get far in the playoffs.

The fact is if Romo doesn't start this year he will next and I'd just as soon see what we have in the kid to determine if we're going to need to go QB shopping in the offseason.


I have yet to figure out how so many people are missing the part that has been highlighted.

Maybe I am the one that lives in bizaro world, but man it just makes so much sense.

Does anyone really want to go into next year with Bledsoe at the wheel? If the answer is yes, that is the very definition of insanity. You know doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result.

If you answer no, then would you rather have a Romo with nearly a year under his belt and a general idea of wether we need to go QB shopping or not or a green as can be QB in terms of actual play.
 

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I wasn't a Romo fan, but he began to show me in the pre-season that perhaps he does have those intangibles we need at the position.

I agree with all those saying Bledsoe is a known quantity and the fact is I don't like what I know. 8-8, 9-7 at best. The exact same thing we were saying last year this time and we all know how that movie ended.

I will look for Peter King's comments today because Parcells confides in him and King should be getting a feel for how Parcells is thinking in regards to Bledsoe.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1079637 said:
Who says that Dooms other than you?

How do you know that the team doesn't want Romo in there?

You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't see the needless sacks given up or the inaccuracy on the short routes or the poor decisions?

Come'on now Dooms! The only starting QB with a lower rating than Bledsoe is Chris Simms. Over the last 14 games Bledsoe has a lower QB rating than what Quincy Carter did over his last 14 games. You don't think Bledsoe's team-mates don't know that?

Wake up Dooms and smell the Romo. It's brewing. ;)


Well I don't know about all of it, but I do know playing Musical chairs in the QB department sure has served us well since Aikman left. :mad:

Too bad the music is being played on a Kazoo instead of a full orchestra.
 

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Theisman thinks that it's Romo time, just curios what people think of this since most of us feel he's an idiot. I personally think that Parcell's will stick with Bledsoe until we get into the playoffs and he kills us in the first round.

On the flip side, we lost at Philly on the road and we lost at Jacksonville on the road. They both have winning records and are obviously good teams. I personally think that Romo can be the 27th ranked QB in the league (or better), but maybe the panick is a little over the top. I'm sure Parcells is thinking that right now.

Remember, we will get to see this team again in Dallas.
 

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Doomsday101;1079669 said:
You smell Romo. When or if the time comes I'll pull for Romo after all I do like him but unlike some I don't over react after a loss and you guys do and do it every time this team drops a game. I know Romo is not the starter and if the intent was to make him the starter this year he would be out there and the fact is he is not. If you throw him out there and he fails the you same bunch of chicken littles will be clamering on about getting rid of him as well. Sorry I don't believe you run a team off emotions and evidently you guys do because you prove it every time this team hits a bump in the road.

Based on Bledsoes history I would hardly call this an overreaction. Look at the man's history. If you could prove this was an aberration, then so be it.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1079687 said:
Well I don't know about all of it, but I do know playing Musical chairs in the QB department sure has served us well since Aikman left. :mad:

Too bad the music is being played on a Kazoo instead of a full orchestra.

We need a guitar player at QB......Bledsoe is a bongo player. :)
 
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