Mike Carey: I’m right, NFL is wrong about Colts’ muffed punt

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Mike Carey: I’m right, NFL is wrong about Colts’ muffed punt
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2015, 11:12 AM EST
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Former NFL referee Mike Carey said during the CBS broadcast of the Colts-Broncos game that Colts punt returner Josh Cribbs had muffed a punt and the Broncos had recovered. Then the referee, in conjunction with NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino, looked at the replay and ruled that Cribbs had possession of the ball and was down by contact before he lost it.

So how did Carey get that call wrong? According to Carey, he didn’t.

Carey said on Inside the NFL that the replay review was wrong, and that Cribbs never had possession of the punt. Carey said that under NFL rules, the process of Cribbs getting possession of a punt is the same as the process of Dez Bryant getting possession of a pass, and that just as Bryant had to maintain possession of the ball while going to the ground as we all saw in the Cowboys-Packers game, Cribbs had to maintain possession of the ball while going to the ground later on the same day.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...m-right-nfl-is-wrong-about-colts-muffed-punt/
“There’s no difference between the Dez Bryant play and the Josh Cribbs play,” Carey said. “There was not enough there for possession, which means control, two feet down, and if you’re going to the ground, maintain control when you hit the ground.”

Carey said there’s no doubt in his mind that Cribbs muffed the punt.

“The rulebook is clear. He did not have control, two feet down, and when he hit the ground maintain control,” Carey said. “Everybody makes mistakes, and I make them too, but in this case, anybody who watches this — the criteria for making a catch was not there. The league made a mistake.”

That play had the potential to be a big one, as it would have given the Broncos the ball at the Colts’ 30-yard line. But while Broncos fans will be particularly upset about that ruling, all NFL fans should be concerned about the fact that a former NFL referee can look at the same replay as a current head of officiating and come to a different conclusion about how to properly apply the rules. That means that either the NFL was employing a referee who doesn’t understand the rules, or the NFL is employing a head of officiating who doesn’t understand the rules, or the NFL rulebook is so complex that even the professionals can’t always understand the rules.
 

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well, dean blandino struck again, how long is he going to get away with stuff like this guys?

Here's Blandinos bio ( notice the weasel words at the end to create the impression that he is a qualified ref , when in fact he is just a reviewer /trainer/ alleged rules expert )

Bet this guy never was on the field involved in real full speed decision making........

Source: nflcommunications.com

Dean Blandino, a member of the NFL’s Officiating Department for 15 years and the director of the league’s instant replay program, has been named NFL vice president of officiating.

Blandino will take over for Carl Johnson, who announced in December that he had accepted a new role and would become the NFL’s first full-time game official after Super Bowl XLVII.

A native of Bellmore, New York, Blandino has spent his entire professional career in football officiating. After graduating in 1993 from Hofstra University, Blandino joined the NFL for the 1994 season as an officiating intern. Following the 1994 season, he was hired full-time as an officiating video assistant and then was promoted to special projects coordinator.

Blandino was an NFL instant replay official from 1999-2003 and was selected to work as the replay official for two Super Bowls and two conference championship games. He managed the NFL instant replay program from 2003-2009, including oversight of the system’s upgrade to high definition in 2007. From 2007-2009, he was director of officiating and the number-two person in the department, supervising day-to-day operations, including managing the support staff and the game officials’ schedule, under Mike Pereira.

Blandino formed his own company in 2009 called “Under the Hood,” which provided training and evaluation for replay officials. His clients included the NFL plus the Big Ten, Mid-American, Pac 12, Big 12, and Mountain West college football conferences. He directed instant replay clinics for the NFL and NCAA and served as a liaison to the NFL Competition Committee.

In 2012, Blandino returned to the NFL as a director of officiating, focusing on all aspects of supervising the instant replay program. He continued to work with the Competition Committee and also served as a liaison to NFL clubs in answering questions about officiating, prepared weekly officiating training tapes, managed other key projects such as editing the official rulebook, provided training for on-field officials, and participated in communication initiatives, including presenting the NFL Network’s weekly “Official Review” to clarify rules and officiating calls for NFL fans.

“Dean has been in football officiating for the past 20 years and has made it his life,” Commissioner Roger Goodell said. “He is highly respected by our game officials and coaches for his deep and thorough knowledge of the rules. He also has extensive management leadership experience in the NFL and as a business entrepreneur. Dean is well-positioned to lead our officiating team and ensure the integrity and continued improvement of NFL officiating.”
 

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http://nflcommunications.com/2015/0...blandino-on-nfl-gameday-final-on-nfl-network/

Blandino fills four paragraphs talking about the Dez call without mentioning either a) the call on the field, or b) the contact by the defender.

He then spends one paragraph on the Cribbs play, and mentions both right away.

Down in Dallas we got Blandino-ed, you could be next to get Blandino-ed, All receivers feel the wrath of Blandino

But seriously, what an idiot.

On whether or not Dez Bryant reaching for the goal line could have been considered a football act:

“Yeah, absolutely. We looked at that aspect of it and in order for it to be a football move, it’s got to be more obvious than that, reaching the ball out with both hands, extending it for the goal line."

Does this guy even look over what he writes? Just spewing feces from his mouth anus.
 

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The league doesn't understand its own rules. They need to throw the book away and start over with common sense as a rule.

And Blandino needs to be gone. He's a know-nothing, unqualified, compromised blowhard.
 

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On whether or not Dez Bryant reaching for the goal line could have been considered a football act:
Blandino controls the discussion by talking about the reach for the goal line, when this should not even matter. It's not about the reach for the goal line, or any other "football move." That's just the way they manage how the call is talked about.

It's not like the field judge gave Dez the catch because of any reach for the goal line, because he clearly saw the ball come out. If he'd given Dez the catch only because of that reach, that would mean he hadn't considered the process complete until that point, so he'd have had to take the catch right back away from him when the ball came out. The field judge didn't care about the reach. He gave Dez the catch because he watched him catch the ball, get tripped, and go down by contact. That's why he spotted the ball inside the one.

By ignoring the call on the field, and the contact by the defender, the league controls how we talk about this play.
 

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Mike Carey has disagreed with more calls this season than any of the former refs the Networks are using. A call that went in favor of the Cowboys this season he disagreed with during a Thursday Night game and took a ripping during the game chat.
 

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Blandino controls the discussion by talking about the reach for the goal line, when this should not even matter. It's not about the reach for the goal line, or any other "football move." That's just the way they manage how the call is talked about.

It's not like the field judge gave Dez the catch because of any reach for the goal line, because he clearly saw the ball come out. If he'd given Dez the catch only because of that reach, that would mean he hadn't considered the process complete until that point, so he'd have had to take the catch right back away from him when the ball came out. The field judge didn't care about the reach. He gave Dez the catch because he watched him catch the ball, get tripped, and go down by contact. That's why he spotted the ball inside the one.

By ignoring the call on the field, and the contact by the defender, the league controls how we talk about this play.

And gives the rest of the media a way to " have their cake and eat it to" by proclaiming it was " a catch" but the literal interpretation, selecting which part to be literal on, applies....
 

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http://nflcommunications.com/2015/0...blandino-on-nfl-gameday-final-on-nfl-network/
Blandino fills four paragraphs talking about the Dez call without mentioning either a) the call on the field, or b) the contact by the defender.

He then spends one paragraph on the Cribbs play, and mentions both right away.

Their entire argument rests on their assertion that Dez was going to the ground to make the catch.

This is what I said that day
No matter what you think there was not enough to overturn the ruling on the field
The call should have stood
 

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The league doesn't understand its own rules. They need to throw the book away and start over with common sense as a rule.

And Blandino needs to be gone. He's a know-nothing, unqualified, compromised blowhard.

Determining a "football move" is purely a judgement call. The official that was one yard away obviously thought it was a football move, he ruled the pass complete. How can ANYONE say that it was indisputably (100% certain) not a football move. On top of that, the league had been claiming this year that officials need to be certain of a ruling before reversing an on the field call. Well that sure as hell went out the window there! Now to Blandino. Nobody except him will ever know what was going through his head on that reversal. IMO, the flack he took over the on-field call in Detroit being linked to the party bus tour (therefore helping out his good friend Jerry) clouded his judgment on that reversal. He knew he had to make up for the Detroit flag/pickup situation to make him appear impartial. And right there is the problem with him. Whether we're right or wrong is irrelevent. He put himself in a compromising situation that will always have anyone rooting for or against the Cowboys doubting his integrity. Right or wrong, he should be fired because of his inability to be seen as impartial.
 

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NFL got both calls right, move on!!
Yes, all kinds of evidence that people can not have control of a football yet pull one arm away to gain better control. I mean we all know that as soon as any player doesn't have the ball they pull an arm away.

They got the call right about as much as Mini Me is a threat to break Serge Bubka's pole vaulting records.
 

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He caught it, got tackled hit the ground and the ball came out. Simple as that. I dont see the issue here?
 

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Determining a "football move" is purely a judgement call. The official that was one yard away obviously thought it was a football move, he ruled the pass complete.
"Football move" is a red herring that they talk about it in order to leave the impression that the call is open to interpretation. It's really just a simple ruling of a catch and down by contact.
 

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Mike Carey: I’m right, NFL is wrong about Colts’ muffed punt
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2015, 11:12 AM EST
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Former NFL referee Mike Carey said during the CBS broadcast of the Colts-Broncos game that Colts punt returner Josh Cribbs had muffed a punt and the Broncos had recovered. Then the referee, in conjunction with NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino, looked at the replay and ruled that Cribbs had possession of the ball and was down by contact before he lost it.

So how did Carey get that call wrong? According to Carey, he didn’t.

Carey said on Inside the NFL that the replay review was wrong, and that Cribbs never had possession of the punt. Carey said that under NFL rules, the process of Cribbs getting possession of a punt is the same as the process of Dez Bryant getting possession of a pass, and that just as Bryant had to maintain possession of the ball while going to the ground as we all saw in the Cowboys-Packers game, Cribbs had to maintain possession of the ball while going to the ground later on the same day.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...m-right-nfl-is-wrong-about-colts-muffed-punt/
“There’s no difference between the Dez Bryant play and the Josh Cribbs play,” Carey said. “There was not enough there for possession, which means control, two feet down, and if you’re going to the ground, maintain control when you hit the ground.”

Carey said there’s no doubt in his mind that Cribbs muffed the punt.

“The rulebook is clear. He did not have control, two feet down, and when he hit the ground maintain control,” Carey said. “Everybody makes mistakes, and I make them too, but in this case, anybody who watches this — the criteria for making a catch was not there. The league made a mistake.”

That play had the potential to be a big one, as it would have given the Broncos the ball at the Colts’ 30-yard line. But while Broncos fans will be particularly upset about that ruling, all NFL fans should be concerned about the fact that a former NFL referee can look at the same replay as a current head of officiating and come to a different conclusion about how to properly apply the rules. That means that either the NFL was employing a referee who doesn’t understand the rules, or the NFL is employing a head of officiating who doesn’t understand the rules, or the NFL rulebook is so complex that even the professionals can’t always understand the rules.

At least Carey will put his opinion out there and openly disagree with the NFL refs. The fox version of Carey (Mike Pereira) usually mumbles around about what the ruling should be until the refs finalize the ruling at which point he almost always agrees with them.
 
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