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[TheSport78]

Why does it have to be a smokescreen? Safety is a need, Vaccaro is considered a top safety, and projects to be drafted somewhere around where they pick. Isn't it natural that they would do their due diligence on him in case he is available? Wouldn't it be stupid if they didn't? It doesn't mean they will draft him but they should still work him out. Suppose they trade down 7 or 8 spots and he is still available? I think we would all be interested then!

I wouldn't be upset if Vaccaro is taken at #18, but if they take the kid over Warmack or Cooper, I'll be pretty PO'ed.

 

[Tabascocat]

I want an off lineman picked at 18 too but they have to go BPA at a position of need and safety is a need. If the lineman are gone and there sits Vacarro, take him and don't look back.

 

[weaver21]

I wouldn't be upset if Vaccaro is taken at #18, but if they take the kid over Warmack or Cooper, I'll be pretty PO'ed.

I honestly would be shocked if they pick Vaccaro over Cooper or Warmack. I know Jerry is probably the most idiot GM in the league, but even he wouldn't pick a safety over two of the best prospects in the draft especially when he's so keen on adding pieces around Romo.

 

[Idgit]

Cheat off somebody else's board.

:laugh2:

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I honestly would be shocked if they pick Vaccaro over Cooper or Warmack. I know Jerry is probably the most idiot GM in the league, but even he wouldn't pick a safety over two of the best prospects in the draft especially when he's so keen on adding pieces around Romo.

I'd be shocked if they didn't take a one of the stud d-linemen that may be available when they pick. The only offensive lineman I'd consider to-date is Cooper.

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't think it's a question of what he does from here. He was a reach in the draft. You won't find anyone who had him with a 4th round grade other than the Dallas Cowboys, apparently. Not a single person on this forum so much as mentioned his name in any mock, pet cat list or UDFA priority list before that draft. No draft resource I look at considered him a draftable player or a priority free agent.

I won't say he can't play in the league yet, but he certainly was a massive reach when he was picked, IMO.

Baltimore Ravens and Philadelphia Eagles did.

 

[TheSport78]

I honestly would be shocked if they pick Vaccaro over Cooper or Warmack. I know Jerry is probably the most idiot GM in the league, but even he wouldn't pick a safety over two of the best prospects in the draft especially when he's so keen on adding pieces around Romo.

Hope you're right!

 

[03EBZ06]

I don't think it's a question of what he does from here. He was a reach in the draft. You won't find anyone who had him with a 4th round grade other than the Dallas Cowboys, apparently. Not a single person on this forum so much as mentioned his name in any mock, pet cat list or UDFA priority list before that draft. No draft resource I look at considered him a draftable player or a priority free agent.

Unless you've visited 31 other team's war room, I don't see how you could make a such blanket statement. Not saying you are wrong or right, just seem silly to make such statement.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He's from a d2 school, spent the year on IR and didnt even participate in TC. You need a source to tell you its probably not a great idea to go into the season counting on him?

I would say you need a source for him to compare him to AOA. AOA had a shoulder his first year but he played. His issue was that he could not play well. I think it's because of the speed of the game. You recall him getting rocked by FB and TE because he never saw them?

Who knows if Johnson will pan out but comparing his potential failure to AOA when you haven't even seen him play? Two different scenarios. Skyler Green was too fat. Stanback could not convert from QB and lost a step due to that foot injury. Arkin may well fail but it's not the end of the road yet.

I must say that I appreciate your perseverance.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You apparently don't understand the draft if you would refer to the last fourth round comp pick as a "4th round pick." I'd much rather have a mid-fifth than a fourth round comp.

Why is that?

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Why is that?

Because you can trade a mid-fifth rounder.

 

[DFWJC]

Because you can trade a mid-fifth rounder.

True.

Anyway. I think if you are projecting rounds normally, 135th pick would be well into the 5th round anyway.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Because you can trade a mid-fifth rounder.

Um, okay...

 

[Ren]

I would say you need a source for him to compare him to AOA. AOA had a shoulder his first year but he played. His issue was that he could not play well. I think it's because of the speed of the game. You recall him getting rocked by FB and TE because he never saw them?

Who knows if Johnson will pan out but comparing his potential failure to AOA when you haven't even seen him play? Two different scenarios. Skyler Green was too fat. Stanback could not convert from QB and lost a step due to that foot injury. Arkin may well fail but it's not the end of the road yet.

I must say that I appreciate your perseverance.

That's the problem right there, no one has. He's a d2 safety a year removed from football, the odds are heavily stacked against him at this point and no one in their right mind should count on him filling a need at safety.

 

[Sandyf]

If Matt Johnson was so underrated, could someone name me 10 players in rounds 5,6, and 7 combined that made an impact in 2012.

I honestly couldn't see any.

No one knows what we have in Johnson so maybe we will see that it was a bad pick or a good pick come late July.

Safety is a need regardless of how Church and Johnson do but really but there are plenty of good safetys in this draft and IMO we need not only a playmaker there but one that creates turnovers. Vaccaro is good not great.

If the choice is between Vaccaro or Cooper or Warmack at #18 then Vaccaro is my third choice. Jerry seems to ignore the O line more often than not and if 2 of the first 3 picks aren't O line guys then not really going to matter who else we draft defensively because we will still be 8-8 unless the defensive can score 3 TDs a game.

By the way I respect Mike Fisher and his twitter stuff, but like all of us and all sports "experts", they are right just as much as they are wrong.

 

[visionary]

Um, okay...

dont you see... it is better to have a lower tradeable pick than a higher untradeable pick, because then i can trade that lower pick and get an even lower tradeable pick

then, i can still trade that even lower pick

see?

:laugh2:

i can see why you are confused because it makes no sense whatsoever to want a lower pick than a higher pick

i was going to ask the same question you did but thought the better of it

 

[FLcowboy]

This tells me Vaccaro is a smokescreen, or a contingency plan incase the best OL/DL are off the board.

Probably, but not a bad one. Vaccaro would be a value pick, that;s for sure.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Probably, but not a bad one. Vaccaro would be a value pick, that;s for sure.

More like a luxury pick.

Dallas has to go with a lineman in the 1st round.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

dont you see... it is better to have a lower tradeable pick than a higher untradeable pick, because then i can trade that lower pick and get an even lower tradeable pick

then, i can still trade that even lower pick

see?

:laugh2:

i can see why you are confused because it makes no sense whatsoever to want a lower pick than a higher pick

i was going to ask the same question you did but thought the better of it

If you can't grasp that the ability to trade a pick creates inherent value, then I really don't know what to tell you. It's really not a difficult concept.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I have no problem taking Vacarro at all. I am curious how Leary is developing? I mean the dude was a rookie and if he is building up his strength he could very well help shore up the line. What is so wrong about using some home grown talent that they have spent resources on? What if Costa coming back and continuing the good play he had last year and Leary beating out Bearny and Parnell showing those quick feet? Now all of a sudden the line actually looks pretty decent and it's really not a far cry to think those 3 things are possible step out of the bubble.