Mike Fisher on the radio this morning

[Fredd]

While I like this idea most the problem is Romo is no spring chicken, and he has had two back surgeries. It may be to late for him and Witten to learn a new offensive system and bringing someone in with a different pphilosophy would probably set them back as they would not gel until later in the season with it. And we know this team has a habit of collapsing late in the year so early starts are the agenda.

but that is where their experience helps them...Witten and Romo should be able to adapt to virtually anything....heck, Romo does that on each and every play seemingly...I think if you bring in a youngen to run the offense and Tony is involved, then everyone wins in that scenario...I think a new offense could hamper the young guys like Dez and TWill, but that is why you get a guy in early and get the players ready for camp...work the bugs out in June and July, and show it in the pre-season games...I thought that this was a possibility with the 12-package, but we never saw that on any type of consistent basis (a play here or there)...that, to me, reeks of stagnation by this coaching staff....I think Tony could flourish in the right system, but we don't currently employ that in Dallas

 

[SDCowboy]

So, is Norv on this team yet?

 

[Boyzmamacita]

He's the assistant director of player personnel. I've heard good stuff about him. Maybe he's part of the reason for better draft picks lately.

WG clarified that McClay is on the pro side, not college, so he's not responsible for draft picks after all.

 

[xwalker]

WG clarified that McClay is on the pro side, not college, so he's not responsible for draft picks after all.

No, he is involved in the draft. He is just not in charge of the draft.

 

[wileedog]

Sure.
Which QB is closer to Aikman in size, throwing motion and accuracy on timing routes?

Kyle Orton is a 2nd string QB in this league because he has 83 TDs vs 59 INTs and a career 58.5% completion percentage. His issue is and has always been inconsistent accuracy, and it was on full display Sunday night..

Say what you want about Romo, but to claim that Kyle Orton would do better in a timing based passing system because he happens to throw over the top more like Troy than Romo does is a bit silly.

 

[Corso]

Could you imagine Landry, Jimmy or Parcells having to ask permission? This organization is messed up... .

That's what really gets my goat also.
Who can respect that- if it's true?
Does he even stand up when he uses the john?
He should be a laughingstock in that locker-room.

That Jones could be so Micro-managerial, so tyrannical, so myopic that his HEAD COACH has to ask permission for things HE should be in charge of 100%...

Is unforgivable. Sadly though, it's entirely believable given his history and track record.

IF it's true. I had to bold that because some people like to ignore reading my entire posts before popping off.

 

[khiladi]

There is a rift between Garrett and Callahan.

Fisher says that sometime around the bye week, Garrett went to Jerry and asked permission (yes asked permission) to have play calling duties back. Jerry said no but they agreed to some type of sharing of the play calling duties. Believes as the season went along, Jason gained more control of the play calling (not sure if 100% control like BB has been saying). Callahan obviously is rifted by this.

He also said some in VR would like to replace Callahan with Norv Turner now that he is free. Fisher said Garrett sees Norv as a father figure. Pollack would then be promoted to the oline coach.

He also doesn't believe that Marinelli is going anywhere as long as things end amicably with Kiffin.

Since nothing is really changing at the top, he said Cowboys fans need to put their hopes on Will McClay.

I thought the decision to give up duties was Garrett's, not demotion? I also thought that Romo was the one who was going to be more involved...

 

[khiladi]

So, that might explain why Garrett threw Callahan under the bus by saying that he was calling the plays when the Cowboys lost to the eagles by not running the ball.

Had the eagles won, I wonder if Garrett would have said the same thing, that Callahan was calling the plays? Probably not...

That's the major issue... Garrett's throws everybody under the bus...

 

[khiladi]

I admit, I'd like to see Norv as OC instead of Callahan, but if true, this is just more Jerry pulling the strings, and not giving Garrett control over how he does his job. That way, if somehow the team experiences any kind of real success, Jerry gets to take all the credit - for the team, and the coach. Yeah, I know this is how it's always been. I just can't understand how Jerry still thinks this is supposed to work? And all this talk about firing Garrett? If Jerry hired Garrett for those reasons, and won't fire him because of those reasons, well, then if he does to decide to fire Garrett at some point, what makes us think he won't do the same thing with another coach? What, Jerry will have some sort of epiphany and realize he needs to go back to the way things were with Jimmy, where he gave up a large chunk of control? Yeah, like that's gonna happen. This stuff just gets better.

Yeah, because career high two years in a row for sacks for Romo when Garrett was calling the plays is something Jerry Jones shouldn't worry about.. Garrett was demoted cause he sucks.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

That's the major issue... Garrett's throws everybody under the bus...

Garrett is turning out to be a very unscrupulous, ruthless, underhanded vato. I like that! Maybe he should run for President.

 

[fifaguy]

Garrett is turning out to be a very unscrupulous, ruthless, underhanded vato. I like that! Maybe he should run for President.

He learned from a master. We have a HC who is a "son figure" for the boss and now may be presented with his own "father figure" as an OC. Makes me feel tingly all over...

 

[khiladi]

Also, Jerry didn't hire Norv, because he already hired Jason Garrett, whom he wanted as his HC and offensive mastermind. Wade was the stop gap solution to fix the defense while Garrett was still on his training wheels. Dallas invested a lot in defense and it was the reason of blame prior. Jerry was itching to pull the trigger on Wade from the beginning.

If Jerry hired Norv, the idea of JG calling plays and being the chosen one would be doomed.

I don't know why Norv would take a job in this organization after what they pulled. Norv made it a point to destroy the Cowboys when he played them as HC of the Chargers. His play calling made Garrett look like a clown.

 

[khiladi]

Jason Garrett had one year under Norv Turner, and that because his father got him over here as a third string QB from the Arena league. Seriously, what could A guy just start riding the pine when Norv was in his last year get from Norv or would Norv bother with him, such that Norv was a father figure. The connection to Norv seems to be nothing but over-hyped drama in regards to Ginger. I bet Turner doesn't give a rat's poop about him.

He spent more years under Zampese, who was done and the game passed him by. Garrett was more a part of the decline of the Cowboys than anything else. It was years where they were just trying to plug holes in their offense, not innovate in any way.

 

[khiladi]

Btw, Norv is the guy that shows how influential a good coordinator is.. Schula was awful with the Cowboys. Jimmy let his coordinators do what they did best.

 

[BrassCowboy]

At least in this game...

..I had no qualms about the play calling.

Now why..I'm not sure.

Romo not being in there..

..Orton not audibling us all to death and staying with what was called..

..different play selection because of Orton and simplifying the calls..

or just what?

You got any clues?

Not sure how many times,but I did in fact hear Orton audible a few times

 

[fifaguy]

I remember most of us saying that around halfway through the season Garrett took over the playcalling based on how we were running (no pun intended) things

 

[Zimmy Lives]

He learned from a master. We have a HC who is a "son figure" for the boss and now may be presented with his own "father figure" as an OC. Makes me feel tingly all over...

My son thinks Jerry looks like a Sith Lord. Could Redball be his apprentice?

 

[fifaguy]

My son thinks Jerry looks like a Sith Lord. Could Redball be his apprentice?

Tell your son about Coach Landry; the current mess is only temporary in the overall scheme of things...

 

[Boyzmamacita]

That's the major issue... Garrett's throws everybody under the bus...

You know what's ironic? Everybody criticized Wade Phillips for saying everything was his fault and never blaming the players. Now everybody criticizes Garrett for placing blame on others. It's funny when you think about.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's Garrett's offense. I don't see any benefit of further emasculating him. He's powerless enough as a head coach as it is. To bring back Norv, a guy Jerry seriously considered as the puppet to follow Parcells, would just reek of the owner micromanaging the team once again.

If you don't trust Garrett to run his own offense why the heck is he even here?

I don't think there's anything wrong with the offense any way. This is about as productive a conversation as was the defensive scheme switch last year. A giant waste of time.

Understood. To each their own.