Mike Jefferson

[jobberone]

I think Johnson actually overthrew him. But that says a little about his speed. He either didn't adjust or he doesn't have another gear.

 

[Cbz40]

I think Johnson actually overthrew him. But that says a little about his speed. He either didn't adjust or he doesn't have another gear.

I think you are correct...but I think if he had the ball in his vision we probably would have seen a little more effort to catch the ball.

 

[Idgit]

I think Johnson actually overthrew him. But that says a little about his speed. He either didn't adjust or he doesn't have another gear.

I remember being shocked to see Johnson uncork that throw. It was a nice looking pass.

 

[dueyhemlock]

I posted this in the Daily Zone this morning. It seems like a good reply for this thread also.

Get the torches ready:


Quick look:
Jefferson had a nice leaping catch the other night, also had 2 more receptions. He had a drop also. The question is , did he hear footsteps or was it that he let the ball get to his body. That pass was perfect. I haven't seen much else from him (on special teams, running open, down field blocking). Can't see everything on the TV so maybe he shows up more on the coach's tape.

Amendola had a fumbled return early on, textbook tackle (high/low combination). He was also part of an interception that cost us a chance to win a game. He broke off his outward pattern and cut it back to the inside due to tight coverage. But this was to late because Bartel was already releasing the ball. Questionable pass, possible catch if he continued his original pattern and possible deflecton/interception due to tight coverage. Amendola had a long reception the other night, 35 yarder. He drew a PI call that helped us move the ball. He had a seal off block down the field on a DB and Ray's little brother, Lattimore, would of had a TD if not for a shoelace tackle. He had a catch in a previous game and was wide open in the back of the endzone that same game but Bartel didn't see it. We all have seen that this kid has some moves on his other kickoff and punt returns, not the Pacman variety but still some wiggle. With myself seeing this much on the TV, he probably is showing up alot more on the coach's tape.

I think if Amendola doesn't shoot himself in the foot this next game and Jefferson doesn't set himself on fire in this next game, that last WR spot will go to Danny. Also if Danny had a year on the practice squad like Jefferson did last year, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I didn't disect these two receiver's games, this is just stuff that stood out while watching the games. There is probably other things I missed so fell free to add/flame what I might have missed.
Battle on WRs
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[juck]

I think Jerry is gonna get a wr.

 

[Doomsday]

Brad had 2 good deep throws in the game. I know people do not think he can throw the ball beyond 20 yards but Brad connected with Amendola on one and Jefferson did not adjust very well on the 2nd deep throw. Brad will take what you give him but he can get the ball down field

My biggest problem isnt that he cant throw it, it is that he gives up on his WRs way too fast. He makes one quick look downfield then is ready to dump it short.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The one that bounced of his jersey didn't disappoint you?

Anyone else find it incredibly ironic that the same people taking the lead in busting the chops of the Amendola supporters are the same people that start threads on Jefferson and Lowber? Hypocrisy? Or they just know better?

FWIW, I think Jefferson could be a player too, but he's not as good a receiver as Amendola IMO. He has the size and speed you want though...and he's far more polished than Lowber.

why is Jefferson running with the 2nd team and Amendola running with the 3rd team then ?

Wasn't there a penalty on his dropped pass and then he followed it up with an impressive leaping grab?

 

[viman96]

He has a nice sideline catch. But I thought he should have at least dove for the deep ball. Also he dropped what appeared to be a easy pass. We need to see more from him before any real judgment can be made.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

He has a nice sideline catch. But I thought he should have at least dove for the deep ball. Also he dropped what appeared to be a easy pass. We need to see more from him before any real judgment can be made.

True. though I think he lost the ball in the lights. If he extends his hands its a catch.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's obvious Jefferson is young, he was a rookie on the PS last year, which is why he's making mental mistakes, like letting the ball get into his pads, failing to track the deep ball, but he has a good skill-set, is a big-body, is good after the catch, and has shown that he can separate

if we keep 6 WRs, I hope he sticks

 

[DaBoys4Life]

it's obvious Jefferson is young, he was a rookie on the PS last year, which is why he's making mental mistakes, like letting the ball get into his pads, failing to track the deep ball, but he has a good skill-set, is a big-body, is good after the catch, and has shown that he can separate

if we keep 6 WRs, I hope he sticks

This is a good assessment also he has shown abilities to go up and get the ball after making a mental lapse. Thats what I look for in young players you make a mistake but how do you respond from the mistake is key IMO.

 

[dueyhemlock]

why is Jefferson running with the 2nd team and Amendola running with the 3rd team then ?

Wasn't there a penalty on his dropped pass and then he followed it up with an impressive leaping grab?

Yeah, the D-fence had 12 men on the field. Still it was a easy catch, he jumped for the ball when it was necessary. The ball ended up hitting him about neck level and the defender was about 1-2 yards off. Brad seems to key on him alot.

 

[dueyhemlock]

True. though I think he lost the ball in the lights. If he extends his hands its a catch.

No, he watches the flight of the ball as it's coming down. The ball comes in on his left. He doesn't seem to have total body control due to his speed and couldn't adjust his body sideward (to the left) to make the reception. As a result, the ball hits the ground next to him, then bounces up and hits off the top of his helmet.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yeah, the D-fence had 12 men on the field. Still it was a easy catch, he jumped for the ball when it was necessary. The ball ended up hitting him about neck level and the defender was about 1-2 yards off. Brad seems to key on him alot.

yea I noticed that also. He should have made the catch but since it was a penalty the play was a wash. He did respond very nicely the next play making a very difficult catch.

No, he watches the flight of the ball as it's coming down. The ball comes in on his left. He doesn't seem to have total body control due to his speed and couldn't adjust his body sideward (to the left) to make the reception. As a result, the ball hits the ground next to him, then bounces up and hits off the top of his helmet.

maybe i need to watch that play again.

 

[dueyhemlock]

yea I noticed that also. He should have made the catch but since it was a penalty the play was a wash. He did respond very nicely the next play making a very difficult catch.



maybe i need to watch that play again.

On that long throw, he was way behind the defender, alot of speed, easy 6. I didn't realize how big this kid is. He definitely has potential. The question is, can he be consistant. Brad will give him his chances. I hope if the coaches have it down to Amendola and Jefferson, they play them both at the same time with Brad. This way we all get a good look and maybe make the right decision because the looser probably doesn't make it to the practice squad.

 

[BAT]

Can Jefferson return kicks? Don't see him contributing much as the 5th or 6th WR if he can't be a ST demon.


He has good size and decent speed, but his hands are not exemplary, not enough to keep him over Lowber. Lowber could be a KR gem. Lowber has greater upside with better speed, athleticism & size.


If anything, keep Jefferson on PS another season. Bradford too.

 

[JackMagist]

No, he watches the flight of the ball as it's coming down. The ball comes in on his left. He doesn't seem to have total body control due to his speed and couldn't adjust his body sideward (to the left) to make the reception. As a result, the ball hits the ground next to him, then bounces up and hits off the top of his helmet.

You say that he "couldn't" adjust but I didn't even see him make an effort to adjust or to reach for the ball. It was by far the lamest attempt at a catch I have seen from any of our WR's. Add to that the glaring drop and a couple of other plays where he did not make a great effort ot come back for the ball and I was not impressed. I'd have to see a LOT more EFFORT from him to want to keep him.

I will give him credit though where he did do a couple of nice things and showed that he has potential. Now the question is, "Can he and will he make the effort necessary to tap that potential?".

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Can Jefferson return kicks? Don't see him contributing much as the 5th or 6th WR if he can't be a ST demon.


He has good size and decent speed, but his hands are not exemplary, not enough to keep him over Lowber. Lowber could be a KR gem. Lowber has greater upside with better speed, athleticism & size.


If anything, keep Jefferson on PS another season. Bradford too.

what gave you the Idea that Lowber could be a KR. We don't need a KR return we have Felix Jones and Pacman Jones.

You say that he "couldn't" adjust but I didn't even see him make an effort to adjust or to reach for the ball. It was by far the lamest attempt at a catch I have seen from any of our WR's. Add to that the glaring drop and a couple of other plays where he did not make a great effort ot come back for the ball and I was not impressed. I'd have to see a LOT more EFFORT from him to want to keep him.

I will give him credit though where he did do a couple of nice things and showed that he has potential. Now the question is, "Can he and will he make the effort necessary to tap that potential?".

He displayed good hands that night. Yea the ball got into his chest on one play but he respond very well on the next play.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I think Hostile is wrong, he is someone to get excited about. At least more so than Amendola.

A little early don't you think. Danny is not a bad WR at all. IMO he has it worked out really, just needs a season and a chance.

 

[dueyhemlock]

You say that he "couldn't" adjust but I didn't even see him make an effort to adjust or to reach for the ball. It was by far the lamest attempt at a catch I have seen from any of our WR's. Add to that the glaring drop and a couple of other plays where he did not make a great effort ot come back for the ball and I was not impressed. I'd have to see a LOT more EFFORT from him to want to keep him.

I will give him credit though where he did do a couple of nice things and showed that he has potential. Now the question is, "Can he and will he make the effort necessary to tap that potential?".

When watching in slowmo, it looked like he couldn't control himself at that speed. It seems that a twist of any kind might had aided in attempting to catch that ball. It did seem like lack of effort but from the angle of the camera, you couldn't really tell how far to the left the ball was coming in at. The ball did hit his helmet after hitting the ground.

If it's a toss up between their receiving abilities, then special teams will be the deciding factor.