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Martz is a Coryell guy. Garrett is a Coryell guy. It’s the offense the Cowboys have been running since the 90s with brief respites under Parcells and Bruce Coslett.
Some truth to that especially towards the end of the season.And Alex Smith was still a limiting factor on the offense.
No I think Alex Smith is a conservative quarterback. Isn’t that what was being said? A conservative qb can’t work with a high powered offense?
Pair a conservative average QB with a conservative average HC on a talented team and you have a team that can make the playoffs but not the SB
His QB put 50 on the board and still lost.
Didn't care about defense one bit.Not a defensive guru, that’s for sure
Martz was known for getting his quarterbacks maimed, so let's hope not.
He dang near killed Kurt Warner.
Martz is a Coryell guy. Garrett is a Coryell guy. It’s the offense the Cowboys have been running since the 90s with brief respites under Parcells and Bruce Coslett.
Didn't care about defense one bit.
Giving Dak the green light to attack might save us from watching a late game 45 yard FG attempt to send it to OT
Just saying there's a reason nobody wants Martz.understand, we are not talking mimicking the actual mike martz offense.
- this is more about implementing certain aspects and philosophy from what Kitna said he learned from Martz in terms of getting the ball out quickly, pushing the ball vertically downfield more,
designing the attack where we can get these speedy skill guys on the move and in space to better exploit their run skills in open field as well as over the top of defenses on occasions.
We are not subbing our smash mouth approach for another version of Greatest Show on turf.
And we are already running similar rhythm time based pass offense that both Garrett and Martz learned and evolved from under that philosophy tree.
didn't Garrett (and Aikman) learned that rhythm time based offense from Norv Turner ?
Just saying there's a reason nobody wants Martz.
He was an egomaniac who resented success from running the ball. Must like Dan Marino.Who was a disciple of Coryell, yeah.
He could could only succeed when he had elite talent all over the field, and tended to set up his QBs to take a lot of unnecessary kill shots.
He was an egomaniac who resented success from running the ball. Must like Dan Marino.
It can be done but I’m guessing most if not all instances of a non-franchise type QB winning a Super Bowl are paired with either a HOF level coach or a GOAT worthy argument defense (probably both). I don’t think Dallas has anything close to either.Conservative HC... would you say Bill Parcells was conservative? Conservative QB... how about Phil Simms? Well those two won a SB together.
Reid and Smith didn’t have results?he said when combining a conservative QB and a conservative HC, you can’t expect big results. And then you brought up Reid to counter that.
You can put high powered HCs with conservative QBs or gunslingers QBs with super conservative OC/HC’s and get great results. But when you have both being passive, you better have a phenomenal defense and run game.
i'm hearing QB coach Jon Kitna interview on 105.3 the fan, and how he likes to input an aggressive mindset in this pass offense and letting it rip.
I hear the name of Kitna's past offensive coach Mike Martz coming up a lot and Kitna is made reference to how Martz approach is constantly pushing the ball vertically down the field. Getting the ball to your best offensive players. This won't be greatest show on turf. We are a run-attack team first. But i'd love to push and test defenses deep and get more away from the dink and dunk approach under Dak.
Though I've read articles of how Dak is the one that is liking the push ball down field and taking the deep shots, i'm more for believing Kitna has bought into and the one pushing these QBs to take more shots and getting the ball better into open spots, and how to better attack defenses.
Instead of committing to taking what the defense gives you- You take what you want from a defense.
you dictate and make the defense adjusts to you, rather than you have to alter your game and do what a defense wants you to do.
Even if it's a couple of incomplete overthrows, I really like the idea of taking far more shots over the top of defenses with quick strike TDs or big chunk plays, we don't stretch out the field and gain defenses respect and fear like we should. And it also opens up a lot of spacing upfront to give zeke more room to maneuver.
i'm excited to see what happens with this Moore/Kitna/Husseheimer (sp) Garrett coaching group.
It's sounds like a great plan upfront, worth seeing how it turns out.
Defenses will love the Dak-Attack...... now I wonder why?
Maybe he will be once again Lucky Dak as he had at least 6-7 pick 6"s dropped by defenses last year.
We gonna see a ton of these if Zeke ain't running...