Mike McCarthy = Bill Belichick

[dupree89]

Bill ain’t coming here because Bill is a GM/HC there’s no other way around that he NEEDS power and authority

I think this is the problem too. Jerry giving up control would be him admitting he failed. And I cant see BB coaching a team at this stage without having total control.

 

[blueblood70]

For all Cowboy fans wanting Bill for HC should be buyer beware! Bill had Tom Brady all those years and when Brady left he didn't do so well. Mike also had Rodgers..as soon as he left the same results as Belichick..These quarterbacks made the coaches look genius. Dak Prescott is not even in same league as those quarterbacks!

Choose your words better First off they are actually in the same exactly National Football League see the word league Prescott's in the top 10 easy first career he's a top ten quarterback he's a top five quarterback and at least three years so far the pro I would say he's at least worth the conversation that most people like right now are not even in Patrick mahomes league and yet Patrick mahomes has bad games matter of fact he's had a bad stretch of games probably going back to last year he's not look like himself but that's beside the point he's a top ten quarterback you can win with so that's nonsense that bull squat needs to be spit out because none of us are buying it yes you can build around Prescott when you come to a team that has a quarterback like this and you immediately with him win 36 games two division titles three straight playoff appearances Prescott's never been part of a losing season they've been to the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years most of our problems have been throughout the rest of the team that's what the coaches job is supposed to be find a way to fix and build the team around your best players we have cornerstones at almost every position and Mike McCarthy's done a pretty good job but I think we need to a defensive minded tougher coach that's the difference we got a guy that can't coach offense his offensive coordinator job is what's been the bigger problem the last two years.

Prescott has done well despite the coaching Staffs he's had here despite the lack of talent that our GM puts around him or makes trades are filled holes when you start having injuries that's despite all that Prescott had to fight through some of the worst situations are there any other team that talk about it on sports cast most of the Decatur are our own fans listening to nonsense from other fans you guys are sheep you just parrot nonsense all around but I can tell you this he's a lot better in other people's eyes than they are some of you all haters so yeah you're a big hater you don't see it he can be built around a better coaching staff from top to bottom is necessary around here 'cause we don't have some of those other top five teams have that is why our playoff success has been lacking not our quarterback let's get that straight I don't think Prescott's elite but he's in that next group and you should be able to win with a proper coaching staff and a little bit better supporting cast but we have it and that is because the rest of it not because of Prescott, not Romo either, so go take a LONG WALK off a short pier ,we will never miss you.....

PS Vrabel is better choice than BB or MM but BB is last resort ie we need change and it starts with the HC and hiring a bater overall staff.

 

[blueblood70]

For all Cowboy fans wanting Bill for HC should be buyer beware! Bill had Tom Brady all those years and when Brady left he didn't do so well. Mike also had Rodgers..as soon as he left the same results as Belichick..These quarterbacks made the coaches look genius. Dak Prescott is not even in same league as those quarterbacks!

OH PSS I'm just curious while some of that may be true and I'm adding to my other long winded rant because that's what you're gonna get for me when you say things that just aren't true... Let's be clear here what did Aaron Rodgers do with his new head coach after Mike McCarthy left didn't win another title I don't even think they made another Super Bowl I think they lost four straight NFC championship games but we could go back and say those were Mike McCarthy's teams remember the nonsense I keep hearing about Jimmy Johnson's teams when switzer got to a championship game and then won a Super Bowl the next year that was Mike McCarthy's team LOL exactly what has been done since I don't know how many seasons has Tom left three over in New England they look like garbage so who's to blame I mean Bill Belichick left and the new coaching staff can't seem to put it together to me it's always a marriage you gotta have an Andy Reid matched with a guy like Patrick mahomes because when Andy Reid was with the eagles he got close but he never concealed the deal those teams never look like this now they do it takes both you can't discount which either one have done without each other...

Why exactly do some of these great elite quarterbacks like say Dan Marino never have one title or you have a guy played for 19 years and Brett Favre Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees they only have one title each if it was all them and that's all it took why is it it took all that time Prescott's only been here nine years they played 19 and somehow we don't remember how late it was when Peyton Manning won his first in his ninth year it was 8th or 9th year and then he only got another one later with another team while he was broke down and he was part of a great team you can't even really put these other quarterbacks in with Tom Brady we're just talking about seer titles and maybe won more than one title because of Bill Belichick and his way he built the defenses and kept the team together filled holes every offseason for a very long time it was not all Tom Brady because it was then Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Brett Favre all these dudes fell short fell right on their face because here's the one title doesn't move the needle for me.​

That is why right now you gotta get guys like Joe Montana and even right now Patrick mahomes there in the discussion even maybe Steve young or Troy Aikman and we know Troy was a little bit surrounded by great talent and people underrate him and that's fine I see it he's a bit overrated but they have multiple titles you know why because they were matched with their head coaches who got them a coaching staff and kept it going for a longer amount of time because one title could be an accident when you have 3 or 4 then you know that the quarterback and the coaching staff match up pretty well...

So if I was sitting here and having to judge I would not even put Aaron Rodgers in with Tom Brady right now it's just Patrick mahomes guys like Joe Montana we can go back to some of the greats that multiple titles and some of them didn't even have to play 19 years...

 

[JPM]

If Bill died in the middle of a game I'd trust him more than the guy coaching now.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Bill Belichick would probably be in the Hall of Fame as a DC even if Tom Brady never saw a snap.

McCarthy hasn't been an effective offensive coach in 20 years. The game has passed him by, and his stints since his Niners days have essentially been a combo of cronyism, coattail-riding Aaron Rodgers, and grift.

 

[Big_D]

The guy won 6 Super Bowls and as great as Tom Brady is, it takes a whole lot more than just a QB to do that.

 

[cowboyec]

belichick is strong minded enough to coach "around" jerry.
his team would be better in the details.

side question...how many super bowls has aaron fraudgers won with a different hc?
answer...0.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Not even in the same universe. Belichick's attention to detail at every level of a football team is incredible. Belichick would make a lot of things better for this team

If Belichick is that good he’ll have offers from franchises better than the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[JW82]

Belicheck is a great defensive mind and maybe the GOAT DC but he has about 11 or 12 years without Brady and he was a below 500 coach. And before you say, what about 11-5 in 2008 with Matt Cassel... that was a roster that went 18-1 the year before. With a great OC he might be ok. McDaniel is not that guy.

 

[75boyz]

I dont think they are equal.
I think Bill could actually achieve an improved defense over a sustained period of time. I think McCarthy temporarily benefitted from Moore and Quinn and once his actual offensive scheme was his, it crashed and burned.

Bill would demand discipline and accountability while Mike did neither.

But unfortunately Bill would ultimately end up with the same or worse results as McCarthy if not paired with a Brady elite talent at QB which Dak is most surely not.
Personnel, the right GM choice and offensive coordinator and o line coach would be other huge question marks. I question Bill's ability on these head coaching duties based off recent past failures serving in this capacity.

So he would be better than McCarthy but not championship caliber.
Unless he were given an elite QB.
Which Dak ain't it.

Maybe that is equal.
Lol

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

For all Cowboy fans wanting Bill for HC should be buyer beware! Bill had Tom Brady all those years and when Brady left he didn't do so well. Mike also had Rodgers..as soon as he left the same results as Belichick..These quarterbacks made the coaches look genius. Dak Prescott is not even in same league as those quarterbacks!

Are we going to just ignore the fact that Bill and Tom won 6 championships, and Mike and Aaron won one? McCarthy is sloppy. Belichick brings structure and order...and he's also a pretty exceptional defensive playcaller.

 

[John813]

Whoa, not even in the same hemisphere in coaching levels.

Bill benefited from Brady, no doubt. But as someone who watches Miami, BillB reinvented the team for decades being one step ahead of the rest of the NFL.
Trading off guys in their peaks. Running the 2 TE to perfection. Finding the small white receivers and giving defenses fits with Welker and Danny A. etc...
Defensively, the team was always top notch.
Teddy retires? No drop off. Seymour traded? No drop off. etc...

Is he perfect? Hell no, but for 20+ years he was the coach of a team that won 6 times. Their last SB they won a defensive match vs the Rams.

 

[irishline]

Bill Belichick would probably be in the Hall of Fame as a DC even if Tom Brady never saw a snap.

McCarthy hasn't been an effective offensive coach in 20 years. The game has passed him by, and his stints since his Niners days have essentially been a combo of cronyism, coattail-riding Aaron Rodgers, and grift.

Bill has coached 10 seasons without Tom Brady, six before Tom and four after Tom. Only two of those were winning seasons. His record those years was a below pedestrian 70-93 for a wonderful .429 winning percentage. His playoff record was 1-2. Not saying he isn't a great defensive mind nor that he is not better than McCarthy, but Tom covered a whole lot of his warts for 20 years and then went and won another Superbowl without him (making the playoffs all three years with Tampa while New England fell apart).

I think looking at the actual history and coaching statistics from an impartial point of view, you would have to say Bill would probably not sniff the hall of fame if Brady never saw a snap. Heck he may have been on his way to getting fired from New England (since they were 5-13 in his first 18 games as New England's head coach before Tom took over) and been stuck as a DC for awhile.

You want to talk about coattail riding for McCarthy with Rodgers, well it is on steroids for Belichick with Brady.

McCarthy with Rodgers: 104-66 .611
McCarthy without Rodgers: 66-43 .606 (including this season)

Belichick with Brady: 397-173 .696
Belichick without Brady: 70-93 .429

 

[Brax]

For all Cowboy fans wanting Bill for HC should be buyer beware! Bill had Tom Brady all those years and when Brady left he didn't do so well. Mike also had Rodgers..as soon as he left the same results as Belichick..These quarterbacks made the coaches look genius. Dak Prescott is not even in same league as those quarterbacks!

The loon’s are out, a coach who got his teams to 9 SBs is a bum. I can’t take much more

 

[gtb1943]

For all Cowboy fans wanting Bill for HC should be buyer beware! Bill had Tom Brady all those years and when Brady left he didn't do so well. Mike also had Rodgers..as soon as he left the same results as Belichick..These quarterbacks made the coaches look genius. Dak Prescott is not even in same league as those quarterbacks!

anyone that like this post is a football idiot

 

[gtb1943]

Bill has coached 10 seasons without Tom Brady, six before Tom and four after Tom. Only two of those were winning seasons. His record those years was a below pedestrian 70-93 for a wonderful .429 winning percentage. His playoff record was 1-2. Not saying he isn't a great defensive mind nor that he is not better than McCarthy, but Tom covered a whole lot of his warts for 20 years and then went and won another Superbowl without him (making the playoffs all three years with Tampa while New England fell apart).

I think looking at the actual history and coaching statistics from an impartial point of view, you would have to say Bill would probably not sniff the hall of fame if Brady never saw a snap. Heck he may have been on his way to getting fired from New England (since they were 5-13 in his first 18 games as New England's head coach before Tom took over) and been stuck as a DC for awhile.

You want to talk about coattail riding for McCarthy with Rodgers, well it is on steroids for Belichick with Brady.

McCarthy with Rodgers: 106-44 .611
McCarthy without Rodgers: 66-43 .606 (including this season)

Belichick with Brady: 397-173 .696
Belichick without Brady: 70-93 .429

and how did the GOAT do in his last year without a great team around him?
what was that teams record?

 

[gtb1943]

I am constantly amazed at those who think they know something about football and clearly do not

TELL ME THIS:
Did Tom Brady run the draft for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady manage the cap for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady hire the staff for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady handle FA for 20 years?

only football MORONS would give him more credit than BB for that twenty year run

 

[irishline]

and how did the GOAT do in his last year without a great team around him?
what was that teams record?

4 wins better than Belichick's that season.

 

[Mannix]

I still favor Jason Witten for OC

 

[irishline]

I am constantly amazed at those who think they know something about football and clearly do not

TELL ME THIS:
Did Tom Brady run the draft for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady manage the cap for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady hire the staff for 20 years?
Did Tom Brady handle FA for 20 years?

only football MORONS would give him more credit than BB for that twenty year run

And only morons would skip 10 years of basically losing without Brady as if it didn't happen.

How were those 4 drafts after he left? How were those free agents signings the year he spent 100+ million to go 4-13?

I am not saying it was all Brady, but it sure as hell was not all Belichick.