Mike Tomlin What do he do???

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He motivates his team, leads them and makes sure they are well prepared and ready to play... That's the job of the HEAD COACH! He has input on everything but let's his positional coaches and cooridators do their job!
 

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Maikeru-sama;2899189 said:
Tony Romo had only started for about half a Season in 2006 and it took a historical "fluke" play to keep our current Playoff Drought alive.

Wade Phillips had the most talented team in football in 2007, after beating the Patriots, Michael Strahan said they were the most talented team they faced in 2007.

Mike Tomlin is a better football coach then Wade Phillips, not sure why this is even being debated.

Does Wade Phillips know more about the 3-4 Defense and defense in general then Mike Tomlin, yeah probably but what exactly has that gotten Wade Phillips?

For the record, I don't believe Mike Tomlin is a genius. However, I think he is a solid football coach and just find it laughable that he could be ostracized by the same people that prop up a Head Coach who is 0-4 in the Playoffs Lifetime.
Dallas was 5-4 with Romo in 2006. Then 13-3 in 2008. The only difference between those teams were the coaches at the top.
 

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theogt;2899114 said:
And yet most people don't give Switzer any credit for his Super Bowl win, though he probably had more impact on that team than Tomlin does on his.

Brilliant!!!!!

Most people don't Theo, and that is a shame. They confuse the clownish behavior of Switzer with someone who understands the game and is a good leader.

Jimmy may have bought the groceries, but he was no where near the kitchen in 1995. We have seen others for a lot of teams take great talent and not achieve.

Jimmy would not have been abole to coach around the injuries in 1994 any more than Switzer could have.

Barry deserved the Championship because he led the team as the head coach.
 
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theogt;2899158 said:
Really? Cause it seems to me like Wade did more to improve his team from 2006 to 2007 than Tomlin did from 2006 to 2007. And the Steelers were just a year removed from winning a Super Bowl, yet Tomlin led them to a first round playoff exit.

This guy is overrated because he has a Super Bowl ring and he jumps up and down and screams a lot. I understand that the personality of football fans tends to attract to this type A personality coach, but it's just silly to think he has much, if any, impact on that teams success or failure.

I think you're clueless honestly... Mike Tomlin is an outstanding young coach.
 

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As I stated, Tony Romo became a permenant starter in 2006. Why on earth would anybody be suprised that he would improve in 2007?

I think people totally underestimate how big of a change it is to go from one QB to another in the middle of the Season.

Regardless, it still doesn't change the fact that Wade Phillips is 0-4 lifetime in the Playoffs.

Given the choice of Wade Phillips and Mike Tomlin, I just don't see how anyone could choose Wade Phillips.

Oh, and Jerry Jones not offering Wade Phillips a contract extension also speaks volumes.
 
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Maikeru-sama;2899222 said:
As I stated, Tony Romo became a permenant starter in 2006. Why on earth would anybody be suprised that he would improve in 2007?

I think people totally underestimate how big of a change it is to go from one QB to another in the middle of the Season.

Regardless, it still doesn't change the fact that Wade Phillips is 0-4 lifetime in the Playoffs.

Given the choice of Wade Phillips and Mike Tomlin, I just don't see how anyone could choose Wade Phillips.

Oh, and Jerry Jones not offering Wade Phillips a contract extension also speaks volumes.

Absolutely to both of those statements! :bow:
 

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For a fan base that had two legendary HC's in Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson, it's shocking to me that people still underestimate the value of a quality HC and leader of men.

And anyone here that doesn't think the Cowboys won a SB in spite of Barry Switzer is just plain kidding himself. He may be the single most culpable person that caused the complete disintegration of a dynasty.
 

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Dodger12;2899231 said:
For a fan base that had two legendary HC's in Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson, it's shocking to me that people still underestimate the value of a quality HC and leader of men.

And anyone here that doesn't think the Cowboys won a SB in spite of Barry Switzer is just plain kidding himself. He may be the single most culpable person that caused the complete disintegration of a dynasty.

So who is at fault for the team's lack of discipline these days?

The penalties are eating this team up for the fifth year in a row. Maybe longer.

Parcells was a discipline freak and Wade is the opposite.

Maybe it's the players.

Your comments on Switzer ignores the obvious and plays to the knee-jerk of most fans about him.

Salary cap and Jerry writing checks that bankrupt the team capwise was the downfall. Not Switzer.
 

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TwoDeep3;2899272 said:
So who is at fault for the team's lack of discipline these days?

The penalties are eating this team up for the fifth year in a row. Maybe longer.

Parcells was a discipline freak and Wade is the opposite.

Maybe it's the players.

Your comments on Switzer ignores the obvious and plays to the knee-jerk of most fans about him.

Salary cap and Jerry writing checks that bankrupt the team capwise was the downfall. Not Switzer.

We can all argue and debate how many SB's we might have won had Jimmy stayed on but that's not the point. The reality is that team discipline eroded to the point that he allowed our franchise QB and team leader to be accused of being a racist. That's inexcusable and any HC worth his salt would have nipped that in the bud but he welcomed it because of his past negative history with Aikman.

Dynasties fall and our demise was inevitable, especially given our poor drafting. But it all started with Jerry hiring Barry who had been sitting on his coach in Norman, Oklahoma thinking his football days were well behind him. The fact that we won with Switzer only proves how truly talented this team was and even Jerry knew it, thus the 500 coaches comment.

And there's nothing knee jerk about my reaction. Barry Switzer was a great HC in his day and I don't take that away from the man. But his hiring at that time had more to do with Jerry's ego than Switzer's coaching prowess. I don't even know how that's even debatable.
 

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casmith07;2899118 said:
Put down the Homerade for 5 seconds, man. Most people that say "well he only won with Jimmy's team" are super-homers too. I propose the same question to them: think we could just remove Switzer altogether and the Boys still would have won the Super Bowl??

Yes!!! :D ;)
 

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Switz;2898889 said:
What does this guy do? I mean really.. he is not a offensive coach. and with Dick LeBeau as the D corr and one of the best all time. he is not calling the defensive plays or overiding anything.

Best I can tell he has come clever things to say in the post game. Decides to go for it or not on 4th and short and chest bumps players.

But other than that I can not see that he does much.



What Jimmy Johnson did. Win pretty damn qiuck. Sad some forgot how to tell when we see a good coach.
 

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Kangaroo;2899380 said:
Same thing as Jimmy what did Jimmy coach in Dallas ?


didn't read the thread and you beat me too it, but at least i know some Cowboys fans are not total idiots.
 

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Dodger12;2899318 said:
We can all argue and debate how many SB's we might have won had Jimmy stayed on but that's not the point. The reality is that team discipline eroded to the point that he allowed our franchise QB and team leader to be accused of being a racist. That's inexcusable and any HC worth his salt would have nipped that in the bud but he welcomed it because of his past negative history with Aikman.

Dynasties fall and our demise was inevitable, especially given our poor drafting. But it all started with Jerry hiring Barry who had been sitting on his coach in Norman, Oklahoma thinking his football days were well behind him. The fact that we won with Switzer only proves how truly talented this team was and even Jerry knew it, thus the 500 coaches comment.

And there's nothing knee jerk about my reaction. Barry Switzer was a great HC in his day and I don't take that away from the man. But his hiring at that time had more to do with Jerry's ego than Switzer's coaching prowess. I don't even know how that's even debatable.

So when Troy broke his leg and Barry scrambled to come up with a scheme that would maintain his winning ways, Barry made the transistion of Troy to UCLA happen.

Regardless of what you think Jimmy would have done, or the ego of jerry, that doesn't take away Barry steered the team to a championship.

There are no ships that find their way to the port without a captain guiding them.

The players didn't manage the team during practice or game days or offseason.

So your contention about barry is based on a fallacy - Jimmy would have won four in a row - and Jerry's ego.

There is no way you can prove the former, and the latter still didn't do thje day-to-day directing of the team to a trophy.

Sorry, I don't buy it.
 

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what is funny is NOONE can say what Tomlin real does except delgate...guess that is a skill a leader needs. Tomlin gets asked to do and is under far less pressure than most coaches in the NFL. He could have 4 or 5 bad season like 6-10 and never get fired.

I guess if you have the right people around( Dick L as your D corr) you and a franshise QB who does not make errors when it counts you look real smart.

again... best I can tell all he does is have some good quotes that plays well in the media on mondays... and pick on what 4th and short [plays to go with.
 

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what no one mentions when speak about Barry Swizter was the CRUSHIN defeat in SF in the 94 NFC Chamionship game and to have the team ralley behind him the next season. When everyone in the national media was pointing fingers at him after that lose to only come back the next season and win the superbowl is IMO unreal. that 94 loss could have with other coaches been the end of the run the cowboys had.
 
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