Twitter: Minicamp Tweets ***First fight of the offseason*** - 06/18/14

[adbutcher]

for a rookie to give up only two sacks in his first season is pretty good I think

No it is mediocre at best per the zone's standards of player scouting.

 

[itsaboat]

c'mon, tony had about an hour to get rid of the ball here....

It doesn't change the fact that Fred got thrown away like he was a little kid

Haha, really? That's your best evidence? One sack for a guy who wasn't TFred's which happened because Tony held onto the ball too long? Yeah, great "point" there son.

Fred gets beat regardless, are you blind?

for a rookie to give up only two sacks in his first season is pretty good I think

4 sacks but overall he his play was good for a rookie. I think he will improve and show it this season.

He did improve his pass protection by the last half of the season. That play was in the second game of his rookie season and he didn't have many like it.

There is no doubt that his run blocking was ahead of his pass blocking, but he had pretty much shored that up by the end of the season.

I wouldn't say shored up but he did improve so it's shows promise for the coming season

 

[AsthmaField]

I wouldn't say shored up but he did improve so it's shows promise for the coming season

I would.

It's OK for us to disagree though. That's the foundation of football message boards.

It does seem that we are in agreement that Frederick has a very bright future in the NFL.

 

[ShiningStar]

He will be when he improves his pass pro and I believe Fred will get there.

As everyone stated , his second NFL game, and lets face it the Chiefs D was playing well early in teh season, even ill admit if Dallas caught em later, the results differ. Fredrick is a great pick., i have not had confidence in out center in a long time.

 

[itsaboat]

I would.

It's OK for us to disagree though. That's the foundation of football message boards.

It does seem that we are in agreement that Frederick has a very bright future in the NFL.

We have a minor disagreement with his play later in the season but yes I agree Fred is going to continue to improve and could become one of the best centers in the NFL sooner rather than later.

As everyone stated , his second NFL game, and lets face it the Chiefs D was playing well early in teh season, even ill admit if Dallas caught em later, the results differ. Fredrick is a great pick., i have not had confidence in out center in a long time.

This was during his 14th game against a bad defense: http://i.imgur.com/pm50sfO.gif

Fred is a good player but he has work to do in his pass pro. Nothing wrong with that since he was a rookie. We haven't had decent Center play since 2010 so it's nice to have it back.

 

[xwalker]

He will be when he improves his pass pro and I believe Fred will get there.

I agree that he needs to improve his pass blocking; however, #92 in that video is Dontari Poe who is a rare physical speciman, a true freak. He had a 1.67 ten yard split at 346 pounds and had 44 reps on the bench. When he's on his game, he is not going to be successfully single blocked.

 

[itsaboat]

I agree that he needs to improve his pass blocking; however, #92 in that video is Dontari Poe who is a rare physical speciman, a true freak. He had a 1.67 ten yard split at 346 pounds and had 44 reps on the bench. When he's on his game, he is not going to be successfully single blocked.

No doubt but in the gif below he gets caught leaning trying to help MB and is easily shoved out of the way. Mike Daniels (6' 300) is a good player but he isn't a freak like Poe. Like I've said before, I think highly of Fred but people forget or ignore the fact he has work to do with his pass pro. I truly believe he's one of those players that will get only get better and expect him to improve on his rookie campaign.

 

[xwalker]

No doubt but in the gif below he gets caught leaning trying to help MB and is easily shoved out of the way. Mike Daniels (6' 300) is a good player but he isn't a freak like Poe. Like I've said before, I think highly of Fred but people forget or ignore the fact he has work to do with his pass pro. I truly believe he's one of those players that will get only get better and expect him to improve on his rookie campaign.

That was bad technique. He just over ran that block. I don't know what he was thinking.

Did you make that gif?

 

[itsaboat]

That was bad technique. He just over ran that block. I don't know what he was thinking.

Did you make that gif?

Yes it was and yes but source was bad

 

[locked&loaded]

good to see Dixon making a play

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm elated people are seeing good velocity on Romo's passes.

That is going to piss off the crowd that wants Romo to be done. You know, the usual suspects that post over and over how Romo will never be the same again and we should just move on right now. I am not going to mention any names, but everybody knows who we are talking about.

I am sure they are really loving Romo getting some zip back on his passes.................LOL

 

[ScipioCowboy]

That is going to piss off the crowd that wants Romo to be done. You know, the usual suspects that post over and over how Romo will never be the same again and we should just move on right now. I am not going to mention any names, but everybody knows who we are talking about.

I am sure they are really loving Romo getting some zip back on his passes.................LOL

To be perfectly honest, I was a bit worried as well. Two back surgeries in nine months is nothing to dismiss offhand. However, with both Witten and the media mentioning the velocity on Romo's passes, I feel much better. It's the best news of the offseason.

 

[xwalker]

Yes it was and yes but source was bad

I'm not complaining about the gif quality, I was wondered if you made it. What program did you use?

 

[locked&loaded]

"Leading up to it, we had film (study) the day before, and I get grabbed by the neck by Doug Free, and George (Selvie) goes off," Crawford said Thursday on KRLD-FM 105.3. "He goes 'Hey you can't let that happen. Next time that happens you've gotta fight him...

"We go into practice (Wedneday)...I come inside and I get grabbed by the neck by (Frederick). (He) pulls me down, and I get back up, get angry and push him. And then if you can see from the pictures, George (Selvie) is really the one in there throwing helmets off..."

After Wednesday's minicamp, Crawford told reporters he felt like teammates were disrespecting him after his return from injury.



anything to this, or are players just trying to fire Crawford up? Frederick and Free are team bullies? Both from Wisconsin, so we know they are a couple of badasses

 

[ShiningStar]

No doubt but in the gif below he gets caught leaning trying to help MB and is easily shoved out of the way. Mike Daniels (6' 300) is a good player but he isn't a freak like Poe. Like I've said before, I think highly of Fred but people forget or ignore the fact he has work to do with his pass pro. I truly believe he's one of those players that will get only get better and expect him to improve on his rookie campaign.

are we going to pick and choose every play? Show me all the plays he made? This has gotten out of hand even in society where someone says something they would regret or dont mean and WE immidately make them regret every aspect.

A few bad plays, if we never had all this technology, let me ask you a true question? would you know it?

 

[xwalker]

"Leading up to it, we had film (study) the day before, and I get grabbed by the neck by Doug Free, and George (Selvie) goes off," Crawford said Thursday on KRLD-FM 105.3. "He goes 'Hey you can't let that happen. Next time that happens you've gotta fight him...

"We go into practice (Wedneday)...I come inside and I get grabbed by the neck by (Frederick). (He) pulls me down, and I get back up, get angry and push him. And then if you can see from the pictures, George (Selvie) is really the one in there throwing helmets off..."

After Wednesday's minicamp, Crawford told reporters he felt like teammates were disrespecting him after his return from injury.



anything to this, or are players just trying to fire Crawford up? Frederick and Free are team bullies? Both from Wisconsin, so we know they are a couple of badasses

Free is definitely not a team bully.

I still remember a scene from last season that showed Free's lack of aggressiveness. There was a game towards the end of the season, I think it was the 2nd Commanders game, where the entire starting OL was involved in a skirmish down by the end-zone. I think Murray might have started the fight, but he was immediately surrounded by the starting OLinemen and Parnell came running from the bench ready for a fight. Doug Free was the only guy to just walk away.

 

[itsaboat]

I'm not complaining about the gif quality, I was wondered if you made it. What program did you use?

I used a few programs... mplayer to extract the screens, imagemagick to edit and create the initial animated gif, and gifsicle to "optimize" it. Those are all free programs but require a little more effort to use. This video shows how to make a gif fairly easily with After Effects and Photoshop if you have access to those programs

are we going to pick and choose every play? Show me all the plays he made? This has gotten out of hand even in society where someone says something they would regret or dont mean and WE immidately make them regret every aspect.

A few bad plays, if we never had all this technology, let me ask you a true question? would you know it?

The point of my post and that gif was to accompany this one: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/mini...offseason-06-18-14.292156/page-2#post-5579696

Positive plays are nice but you also have to see the bad as well. Personally, I think you can learn more about an offensive lineman by looking at their bad plays. We are critiquing his play so you have to look at the good as well as the bad. Come down from your soapbox because it's just constructive criticism.

 

[CF74]

"Leading up to it, we had film (study) the day before, and I get grabbed by the neck by Doug Free, and George (Selvie) goes off," Crawford said Thursday on KRLD-FM 105.3. "He goes 'Hey you can't let that happen. Next time that happens you've gotta fight him...

"We go into practice (Wedneday)...I come inside and I get grabbed by the neck by (Frederick). (He) pulls me down, and I get back up, get angry and push him. And then if you can see from the pictures, George (Selvie) is really the one in there throwing helmets off..."

After Wednesday's minicamp, Crawford told reporters he felt like teammates were disrespecting him after his return from injury.



anything to this, or are players just trying to fire Crawford up? Frederick and Free are team bullies? Both from Wisconsin, so we know they are a couple of badasses

I was about to post this, heard Crawford on sports radio say Selvie told him to fight next time it happened. Crawford doesn't sound very aggressive on radio but Selvie is some kind of part time wrestler.. Lol

Whatever it takes to get these Boys fired up and fighting for honor and what not, I'm all for it..

 

[rbr651]

To be perfectly honest, I was a bit worried as well. Two back surgeries in nine months is nothing to dismiss offhand. However, with both Witten and the media mentioning the velocity on Romo's passes, I feel much better. It's the best news of the offseason.

My guess is that it shows more in his mobility than his arm.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Gardner isn't gonna make the team if he can't stay healthy. His legend has been growing since we drafted him.

I doubt it. I think he will make the team regardless because were short on people on the Dline. Not to say that I agree with him sitting out because of injury. But he will be given every chance to make this team even if it means he is placed on PUP.