Minxx Shooter Thought Pacman Ordered A Hit

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MINXX SHOOTER THOUGHT PACMAN ORDERED A HIT
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 9:27 p.m.
A reader has forwarded to us a copy of the “declaration of warrant/summons” issued on April 18 in connection with the arrest of Arvin Kenti Edwards, the man accused of opening fire outside of a Las Vegas strip club in February 2007.

The document helps to clarify recent reports regarding the nature of the $15,000 payment that Edwards thereafter pursued from Titans cornerback Pacman Jones. It seemed to be hush money, but it was characterized by Jones as money that was paid only because Edwards threatened to come after Jones and/or his family.

As it turns out, Edwards initially wanted the money because he believed that Jones had ordered a hit.

Jones made the disclosure to Las Vegas police in September 2007, roughly seven months after the shooting. He told authorities that, as he was leaving the Minxx club after the infamous “make it rain” altercation, a man approached Jones and told him that he would take care of the problem. Jones says he wasn’t sure what the man was talking about, and that Jones replied by saying, “whatever.” Moments later, Jones heard the popping of a gun and observed the same man shooting Tommy Urbanski and two others.

So, basically, the guy shot Urbanski and the other two people because he thought Jones had asked him to do it. And, surely, Edwards’ version of the events will be different than Pacman’s “whatever” remark.

Meanwhile, the report also states that a member of Pacman’s entourage previously had said that he would “f–k this motherf–ker” and that “[w]e’ll smoke his ***” in reference to one of the other persons who was shot.

Here’s our question. What did Pacman Jones say to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in April 2007 or at any other time thereafter when asked about the Las Vegas incident? Our guess is that Jones used the “I don’t know nothing” defense, which would be directly at odds with what Jones thereafter told police in Las Vegas, possibly at the urging of lawyers who feared that the authorities eventually would find the shooter, and that the shooter would claim that Pacman ordered the hit before Pacman could offer up a carefully spun version of the events.

Needless to say, the Cowboys might merely be loaning that fourth-round pick that was sent to the Titans earlier today for Jones. Because we now suspect that, one way or another, Commissioner Roger Goodell will find a way to keep Jones out of the league in 2008.

Bottom line? Jones paid a guy $15,000 for a hit, not because he ordered the hit but only because he feared that if he didn’t pay the money the guy would come after him. And, amazingly, Jones opted not to alert the authorities to the threats from the man who was admitting to these crimes.

Pacman, we suggest that you hold off on trying on that silver helmet with the star.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/minxx-shooter-thought-pacman-ordered-a-hit/
 

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Unless they knew each other before that night this whole conjecture from the turd is stupid.

If it is shown that Jones knew this guy before that time in Vegas then really he has some serious questions to answer. until thats shown i dont really care what the guy says.
 

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I have to admit, the whole idea that this guy, of his own accord, went in and shot some people to protect Pacman and then called Pacman and wanted to extort some money is pretty far fetched.

If he was a member of Pacman's entourage, then this is garbage. If he's some dude off the street wanting to make a name for himself and help out a "celebrity" then it might have some truth to it.

The whole point is that now we're having to go back and forth with all this Pacman nonsense. There is no way that he can get on this team and not be a distraction.
 

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Yea, strange that Jerry Jones called the commish yesterday and was encouraged enough by the what Goodell had to say that he went forward with the trade.

Doesn't mean he is reinstating anytime soon but it had to be positive for JJ to have done the deal. Goodell has to know about all this being talked about and he(Goodell) even said that he thought that Pacman was showing some encouraging signs that he was on the right track.
 

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CrazyCowboy;2047765 said:
it is what it is......whatever that is?

Well, at least one shoe finally hit the floor. The questions are when will the other shoe hit and when will we hear the sound of the zipper?
 

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Pacman's side of the extortion story

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Here is the declaration of warrant/summons (via ProFootballTalk.com) in the case of the accused gunman in the Las Vegas strip club shooting involving Pacman Jones. It includes Pacman's side of the story about the shooting and extortion payments, as told to Vegas detectives.

Pacman said that the shooter, a man he had never met, approached him while he was standing outside the club after the make-it-rain-related confrontation and said he would take care of the situation. "Whatever," Pacman recalled saying. He walked down the street, heard loud pops and turned around to see the man firing a gun toward the club.

Pacman received a call at home a week later from a man who identified himself as "P" who said he wanted to collect money for a "car." This happened two or three more times before one of Pacman's childhood friends, who had been contacted by "P," told Pacman that the man expected to be paid for "services rendered" in Vegas. Pacman refused to pay and said that he had never ordered a hit.

The childhood friend was then contacted by a notorious Atlanta thug known as "Slugga," who threatened to "go after" Jones and his family if "P" didn't get paid. After discussing the matter with Pacman, they agreed that the childhood friend would make the payments and be reimbursed.

Several days later, Pacman was approached by "Slugga" in an Atlanta strip club. "Good choice you made," he told Pacman.

After the police identified a suspect, Pacman traveled to Yakima, Wash., and picked Arvin Edwards out of a lineup. Let's give Pacman the benefit of the doubt and assume he was telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the Vegas shooting and extortion payments.

The fact that Pacman was hanging out in a strip club frequented by a criminal like "Slugga" weeks after being suspended -- and a few months after the Vegas shooting -- can't help his reinstatement case.
 

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I posted in antoher thread some info from Manny Arora interview this a.m. Needless to say what he said and the facts he presented were nothing close to what The Turd posted.

David
 

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MINXX SHOOTER THOUGHT PACMAN ORDERED A HIT



And Charlie Manson was talking to God:eek:
 

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Yea Pacman hearing for reinstatement is not going to happen before July for sure now all you guys hoping it would happen sooner not going to happen.

The Commish is going to see how this plays out over the next 2 months
 

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This situation, rather Pacman knew him or not, does pose the ability to be a really long, drawn out, situation that could be a distraction or even could cause Goodell to say he isn't reinstating him until this little matter is entirely cleared up.

It's troublesome, to say the least.
 

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I have to ask, why did the Vegas cops drop the charges on Pac?

If they, in any way, think he ordered a "hit", why drop charges?
 

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Kangaroo;2047959 said:
Yea Pacman hearing for reinstatement is not going to happen before July for sure now all you guys hoping it would happen sooner not going to happen.

The Commish is going to see how this plays out over the next 2 months
There's really nothing to play out. Pacman's not getting charged with anything else. These are just documents being made public along with the shooter's arrest/trial, and I can only presume that the facts in these documents were already known by the league.
 

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I think it gets overlooked that Jones made a plea deal last year and in that agreement he was to cooperate with authorities in catching the shooter, which they did.
 

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He thought Pacman ordered a hit. So a person you have never met orders you to off someone and you do it? Or you don't know someone and order them to off someone?

I am a big time skeptic of Pacman Jones, but come on...
 

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speedkilz88;2047985 said:
I think it gets overlooked that Jones made a plea deal last year and in that agreement he was to cooperate with authorities in catching the shooter, which they did.

Yep, he pled out to probation for helping incite the whole thing.
 

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Hostile;2047997 said:
He thought Pacman ordered a hit. So a person you have never met orders you to off someone and you do it? Or you don't know someone and order them to off someone?

I am a big time skeptic of Pacman Jones, but come on...

Whatever.
 
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