Misunderstanding about players big paydays

[Diehardblues]

And though they're a small percentage, some people still are irked about, or jealous of, somebody being paid millions of dollars for "playing a kid's game".

The misconception is that they are still just playing a game. It’s not just a game. They are professional athletic entertainers.

It’s sports entertainment on the highest level being broadcast on prime time television generating billions a year.

 

[Einstein]

Bob, I love the concept of this, but IMHO you then go completely against it to list Zeke as a bad 2nd contract... did you not watch him on his first contract? Any RB doing that should earn a BIG payday on their 2nd contract. Now, it is understood that the shelf life of a RB is shorter than most other positions.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The misconception is that they are still just playing a game. It’s not just a game. They are professional athletic entertainers.

It’s sports entertainment on the highest level being broadcast on prime time television generating billions a year.

Yes, and how often do people complain about some Hollywood actor making $20 million for taking a couple of months out of their life to make a movie, which then (if they get a cut of the profits) makes them more money while they sit at home or on vacation doing not one d*** thing to earn that money? Some complain, but not many...

 

[Diehardblues]

Yes, and how often do people complain about some Hollywood actor making $20 million for taking a couple of months out of their life to make a movie, which then (if they get a cut of the profits) makes them more money while they sit at home or on vacation doing not one d*** thing to earn that money? Some complain, but not many...

Or a Rapper making 50 million on a tour. Professional sports became entertainment when it begun being broadcast on Prime Time TV just like other artist and actors . Professional sports athletes are entertainers. And paid as such.

 

[eromeopolk]

I look at Fooball in 3 year segments. Cowboys have young players on a 3 year window Dak, Zeke, Smith, , Vander Esch, Lawrence, Martin, Frederick (gone), Collins, Smith, Cooper, Lamb, etc.

Most of these players are on offense so the defense has to come through the draft and play big the next 2 years. If not, see you in another 25 years from now (regarding a NFC Title/Super Bowl run).

 

[Alexander]

I thought this would be something about how athletes are sacrificing their bodies for low pay.

Disappointed.

 

[MyFairLady]

Professional athletes. Always wanting more.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Bob, here are the cliff notes "this team is built to win a championship" uh uh "I feel with the talent on this team uh uh uh we are defiantly in the running, with the talent on both sides of the ball uh uh uh uh ,I expect a deep deep uh run".

Thank you for clearly identifying the problem. Jerry's perspective on his teams talent is based largely on an ignorance of the talent on other teams.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Bob, I love the concept of this, but IMHO you then go completely against it to list Zeke as a bad 2nd contract... did you not watch him on his first contract? Any RB doing that should earn a BIG payday on their 2nd contract. Now, it is understood that the shelf life of a RB is shorter than most other positions.

Thats not the point. We gave him that contract 2 years before his rookie deal was set to expire thus punting away the primary advantage of a rookie contract........ they are a source of cheap talent. To make matters worse, we gave into a holdout which basically sends the message that Jerry and the organization can be bullied into new contracts.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But IMO, many fans see the big dollar second contracts that many veteran players get as an indication that the player then has to play even better than in the past to “justify” their pay raise. But actually the second contract is seen by both the owners and players as both a reward for good play and a way to retain that talent in the future at market value.

You can make a case it's rare players' stats significantly improves AFTER they sign their 2nd ( the big money) long-term deal. In fact, lot's of times their average stats either dip or go sideways which has fans screaming he's overpaid. Ever notice you never hear fans compliant about OLmen being overpaid........why? No significant stats are attached to the position. Even DTs who lots times are responsible for the dirty work, they get caught with his sacks and/or tackles.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But look at what fans and TV networks are willing to pay to watch these players play the game of football. When you consider that the market is willing to pay multiple billions of dollars to watch these games, the players who play the game and put their bodies at risk to do it are getting true market value

+100% .....you killing it Bobby (lol)

 

[Hawkeye0202]

A very eloquent way of saying, "Y'all are some jealous bastids."

You joking but IMO this is very true among some fans and yes quite a few here.

 

[CouchCoach]

The value of any product or service is what someone is willing to pay for it. There is so such thing as an overpaid player. They are being paid what the decision makers thought they are worth.

When they changed the rookie contracts, the understanding was that money would be applied to 2nd contracts for players that had overdelivered on their 1st contracts so that 2nd contract is part carryover and a reward.

 

[CouchCoach]

You joking but IMO this is very true among some fans and yes quite a few here.

Who can't be envious of athletes making the kind of money professional athletes make? But the fact is we cannot do what they can do and no one is paying to watch us try.

Before Tiger Woods first teed it up as a pro golfer, he had 40M in endorsement contracts.

There is an article today that after the NIL went into effect, Bryce Young, QB for Bama, has made 1M in just 3 weeks in committed money and that comes from his HC.

Consider this. If Dak Prescott averages 35 pass attempts per game this year, he will earn $67,227 every time he releases the ball. One pass attempt when in 2019, the average household income in this country was $68,703 annually. How in the hell can we have perspective on that? This is based on a 40M salary, not the 66M he will pocket.

Do we get so involved with what our favorite performers in comedy, film and music make? Why should we care what athletes, supreme entertainers, get paid? It is not sports, it is entertainment and a far larger canvass they paint on than just a sport.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Who can't be envious of athletes making the kind of money professional athletes make? But the fact is we cannot do what they can do and no one is paying to watch us try.

Before Tiger Woods first teed it up as a pro golfer, he had 40M in endorsement contracts.

There is an article today that after the NIL went into effect, Bryce Young, QB for Bama, has made 1M in just 3 weeks in committed money and that comes from his HC.

Consider this. If Dak Prescott averages 35 pass attempts per game this year, he will earn $67,227 every time he releases the ball. One pass attempt when in 2019, the average household income in this country was $68,703 annually. How in the hell can we have perspective on that? This is based on a 40M salary, not the 66M he will pocket.

Do we get so involved with what our favorite performers in comedy, film and music make? Why should we care what athletes, supreme entertainers, get paid? It is not sports, it is entertainment and a far larger canvass they paint on than just a sport.

Read this .........

It gives an indication of the long odds NFL players have to beat.

https://www.shmoop.com/careers/foot... for a total,25,300 players and 3,450 seniors.

 

[MyFairLady]

In order to win in the NFL you need players on contracts that are net positive. We have so many net negative contracts it makes it almost impossible to have any kind of real sustained success.

 

[CouchCoach]

In order to win in the NFL you need players on contracts that are net positive. We have so many net negative contracts it makes it almost impossible to have any kind of real sustained success.

That is because this team is not as good at drafting as some think.

Unless a team has mostly those net positive players that are vets, they are dependent on 1st contract players. Do the Cowboys really have a strong corral of 1st year contract players? Then, Lawrence, Cooper, Elliott, Prescott and Smith have to be net positive. Martin is the most net positive player on the roster.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Even with great drafts, the great players from those drafts translate to huge second contracts. So you still have to pay.......

 

[CouchCoach]

Even with great drafts, the great players from those drafts translate to huge second contracts. So you still have to pay.......

Eventually, yes they do but the Joneses have had challenges evaluating players and their worth against the % of the cap they will absorb. And they are not any better at it after all these years of trying.

That's what separates Belichick from everybody else, he has his formula and seldom even bends it but he never breaks it, even for a QB. And his formula has a secret component, depth.

If, a big if, Lawrence, Cooper, Smith, Elliott or Prescott played their 1st contracts, none would see a 2nd and he proved that letting Trey Flowers walk instead of giving him Lawrence money. Martin, Big Smitty and maybe Collins? Yep, as he puts a real premium on his OL.

 

[Motorola]

Yes, and how often do people complain about some Hollywood actor making $20 million for taking a couple of months out of their life to make a movie, which then (if they get a cut of the profits) makes them more money while they sit at home or on vacation doing not one d*** thing to earn that money? Some complain, but not many...

And when you get down to it...movies and TV shows are just "make-believe" -
actors and actresses pretending to be historical figures, criminals, superheroes, etc.
And I have never, ever seen, read, or heard criticism of the amount of money people in show business make, outside of some of the "celeberties" that were created by the 'reality TV' shows are all over the networks.