Mizzou will knock off the Sooners

[Chinfu]

What makes you say that? If we took all of OU's opponents and put them in one big division, there would be a 2-way tie for first place between TX and TX Tech. And since we all know head-to-head is the only tiebreaker that should ever be used, Texas Tech is better than Texas by virtue of having beat them. So TX Tech was Oklahoma's toughest opponent and that was a game OU won. By a considerable margin too, IIRC.

well played...

 

[CATCH17]

What makes you say that? If we took all of OU's opponents and put them in one big division, there would be a 2-way tie for first place between TX and TX Tech. And since we all know head-to-head is the only tiebreaker that should ever be used, Texas Tech is better than Texas by virtue of having beat them. So TX Tech was Oklahoma's toughest opponent and that was a game OU won. By a considerable margin too, IIRC.

Because I watch the damn games and know that Tech doesn't have near the depth of OU or Texas on their roster.

Texas Tech is better than Texas if they get Texas at the end of a crazy 4 game stretch @ home.

Tech is climbing up the latter i'll admit. But they still dont have the quality depth of OU and Texas. Thats just common sense.

 

[Rogah]

Because I watch the damn games and know that Tech doesn't have near the depth of OU or Texas on their roster.

So what you're saying is that just because Texas Tech has the same record as Texas and beat Texas doesn't necessarily mean they are the better team?

Hmmmmmmmmm.......

Texas Tech is better than Texas if they get Texas at the end of a crazy 4 game stretch @ home.

What "crazy 4 game stretch"? They played their annual rivalry game against Oklahoma, then 2 home games against teams currently ranked #25 and #13. What's so "crazy" about that schedule above and beyond what every other member of the Big-XII South had to go through this year?

 

[Rogah]

Accidental double post deleted. Sorry

 

[Danny White]

So what you're saying is that just because Texas Tech has the same record as Texas and beat Texas doesn't necessarily mean they are the better team?

Hmmmmmmmmm.......
What "crazy 4 game stretch"? They played their annual rivalry game against Oklahoma, then 2 home games against teams currently ranked #25 and #13. What's so "crazy" about that schedule above and beyond what every other member of the Big-XII South had to go through this year?

That's certainly no crazier than the 4 game stretch that OU is about to go through...

W over Texas Tech
W over Okla State in Stillwater
W over Missouri in Big XII Championship
W over Florida in National Championship!!!

 

[Rogah]

That's certainly no crazier than the 4 game stretch that OU is about to go through...

W over Texas Tech
W over Okla State in Stillwater
W over Missouri in Big XII Championship
W over Florida in National Championship!!!

Heh heh. Now that's an impressive gamut to run.

Did I mention I scored tickets to the Orange Bowl this year? I couldn't imagine a crappier BCS game than what they got scheduled. Except maybe if BC beat VA Tech yesterday. I may not even go, but if I do it will be more exciting to see Miami getting ready for Fla-OU than it will to watch the Orange Bowl game itself.

 

[BigDFan5]

Tech > Texas

 

[masomenos]

Texas > OU

 

[Danny White]

Tech > Texas

Texas > OU

OU > Texas Tech

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[Route 66]

OU > Texas Tech

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It truly is the circle of Life.

 

[MC KAos]

That's certainly no crazier than the 4 game stretch that OU is about to go through...

W over Texas Tech
W over Okla State in Stillwater
W over Missouri in Big XII Championship
W over Florida in National Championship!!!

hmm, at least they get a month break to get ready for the fourth game

 

[Hank Johnson]

OU > Big XII

 

[Hank Johnson]

hmm, at least they get a month break to get ready for the fourth game

Well, you can't forget the two non conference teams that OU played as well. One of whom is the Big East Champion and playing in the BCS. The other is a high ranked stout defensive team with much respect (TCU) who just so happens to be my fav.

Add that to the blowout against then #2 Tech, the good win in Stillwater against #12 Oklahoma State, the win on the road, in Missouri, against #20 Missouri.

If OU beats Florida, they will have done more than what is necessary to prove why they are the best in college football.

That's a big if. I don't think it will happen. Gators will win but it will be a close game, possibly one for the ages.

I'm going to that game btw.

 

[Hank Johnson]

After OU and Texas there is a major drop off in talent in the big 12.

Nobody has the depth that those 2 teams have.

So if Texas or OU is fresh going into any game they are most likely going to win.

Texas is OU's most tough opponent and they lost. OU is getting rewarded for pounding in the 2nd rate teams on their schedule.

OU lost to the best team on their schedule. Texas beat the best team on their schedule.

College football can consider itself sucked, AGAIN, by this fraud of a team.

I'm sorry, but you're just wrong.

See my post above stating OU's case as to why they are ranked higher than Texas and deserve to be where they are.

You continue to discount OU's quality schedule. Yes, Texas was OU's toughest game, and OU lost. However, Tech was not the toughest on Texas' schedule, and they lost.

The coaches in the Big XII voted for the system they have, including Mack. Now that it didn't go their way, they're sobbing like a bunch of pansies with soiled diapers.

Texas had a roody poo non con schedule, and struggled during the most important part, or so called "gauntlet" of their schedule.

OU went through a tough non con schedule, and are performing in a REAL gaunlet and impressing the masses.

Wake up.

 

[Hank Johnson]

Because I watch the damn games and know that Tech doesn't have near the depth of OU or Texas on their roster.

Texas Tech is better than Texas if they get Texas at the end of a crazy 4 game stretch @ home.

Tech is climbing up the latter i'll admit. But they still dont have the quality depth of OU and Texas. Thats just common sense.

Dude you act like you're gods gift to football intelligence.

I hate to let you down, but you have quite possibly the most flawed opinion on this board. At least concerning CFB.

May I suggest that you stick to the Cowboys and NFL? You obviously can't deal with anything that you don't agree with. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong. Maybe in your mind, but who the hell are you? NOBODY.

 

[CATCH17]

Dude you act like you're gods gift to football intelligence.

I hate to let you down, but you have quite possibly the most flawed opinion on this board. At least concerning CFB.

May I suggest that you stick to the Cowboys and NFL? You obviously can't deal with anything that you don't agree with. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong. Maybe in your mind, but who the hell are you? NOBODY.

I would love to debate your opinions but since you are someone who gets sucked in by style points and have faith that Okie State and Mizzou had the talent to beat OU than I can't take anything you say seriously.

But if you would like, i'd love to hear your reasons for believing Tech has the depth of Texas and Oklahoma since my opinion is so flawed.

 

[Hank Johnson]

I would love to debate your opinions but since you are someone who gets sucked in by style points and have faith that Okie State and Mizzou had the talent to beat OU than I can't take anything you say seriously.

But if you would like, i'd love to hear your reasons for believing Tech has the depth of Texas and Oklahoma since my opinion is so flawed.

I never once said that Tech has the depth that OU and Texas have. It's no secret that OU and UT dominate recruiting in the conference.

However, a win is a win, and a loss is a loss. UT lost to a team with far less depth, while ou lost to a stacked, highly ranked UT.

ou didn't go to Stillwater and lose like Texas did in Lubbock. ou also raped the team that made UT look average at best. At least when OU lost to UT, they looked somewhat impressive in their passing game, and didn't look horrible until Reynolds went down.

It's all about playing a schedule that can boost your ranking. OU's schedule provided them with a better argument. Many things factored in on the decision to place OU over UT.

And trust me, I'm not one who gets sucked in by style points. I am however one who gets sucked in by quality wins and quality losses, S.O.S. and whatnot.

You don't give anyone that disagrees with you the time of day because in your mind, you are the CFB genius, and in most other's minds, you're not even close to a fraction of that.

I have tried and tried numerous times to let you know that I respect your stances, even if faulty which is mostly the case, and that you make good points, but you absolutely refuse to acknowledge that you are not the only one with a good case, and are not the only one that knows *** he/she is talking about.

It's not all about one game. That game alone (RRS) was enough to keep UT CLOSE to OU, because OU has proved to be more of a quality team from start to finish.

 

[CATCH17]

What Hank? I don't see where you pulled out my flawed logic.

Like I said.. Tech doesn't have OU and Texas's depth.

I'm just tired of watching OU be the fraud that they are and people continually getting sucked into it.

4 BCS losses in a row and losing to Texas 3 out of the last 4 times speaks for itself.

If OU wins the mythical ship than i'll back off this a little but until they prove they aren't a fraud I think Texas deserved to go more because they have just been better than OU.

Especially now that they have a coach like Muschamp who is possibly the best Defensive Coordinator in College football.

BTW, what are you going to say if the Big 12 admits there was a mistake and changes their tie break system to what every other conference with a Conference title game has?

 

[Hank Johnson]

What Hank. I don't see where you pulled out my flawed logic.

Like I said.. Tech doesn't have OU and Texas's depth.

I'm just tired of watching OU be the fraud that they are and people continually getting sucked into it.

4 BCS losses in a row and losing to Texas 3 out of the last 4 times speaks for itself.

If OU wins the mythical ship than i'll back off this a little but until they prove they aren't a fraud I think Texas deserved to go more because they have just been better than OU.

Especially now that they have a coach like Muschamp who is possibly the best Defensive Coordinator in College football.

Well, I respect your opinion, but the fact that you base your opinion on the PAST is a flawed opinion. And there is no reason for me to argue your opinion on Muschamp, and OU being a fraud. We're all entitled to our own. I'm with you about OU and the NC game. If they win, I'll back off calling them big game farts, but if they lose by a large margin, I will not defend them until they go out and prove it by winning it all against a worthy opponent.

I agree that OU has really crapped out in the BCS as of late, but that's then and now's now.

I don't see what depth has to do with ANYTHING right now. A team beat another team, and another team beat that team. Another flawed area of your opinion.

You're discounting OU because they put up "style" points against Tech, when you're trying as hard as you can to avoid the fact that that same team you speak of with lack of depth made UT look very unchampionship.

As to your question about the Big XII, all the coaches voted for the system, including Mack Brown. Bob Stoops said let him know what the rules are at the beginning of the season, and he'll abide by them.

OU didn't make the rules. I just know that Tech has just as good of a conference case as OU or Texas because they have the exact same record and are in a web of wins and losses with UT and OU.

 

[Garland powerplay]

The ranking is correct due to the fact OU lost to the higher ranked team as their only loss. ITs a credit to them to turn it around after it looked they lost it against UT. It could be debatable as head to head which most organized sports use as a determining factor in division winners. This is the only scenario where head to head doesn't count.
Another reason the current BS sytem stinks.