Mma Fans Aldo vs McGregor

[Cowboys606]

Who do you got? I got Aldo by UD.

 

[basstapp]

McGregor decision

 

[Sasquatch]

Aldo has a broken rib. No announcement yet on whether the fight will be cancelled.

 

[Cowboys606]

Aldo has a broken rib. No announcement yet on whether the fight will be cancelled.

What a downer

 

[TellerMorrow34]

McGregor is who I want to see win. I'm a big fan of both guys but McGregor makes me want to watch his fights so much more.

It's a shame that the fight will likely be canceled cause of Aldo being injured.

 

[Cowboys606]

Mendes vs Mcgregor now

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't pay for MMA fights, but if I did, I'd pay for the Aldo v. McGregor fight. I'd even pay for Mendes. I always though McGregor should have fought Mendes before moving on to Aldo. But McGregor's a great salesman so I can see why he jump to the top.
He even has me believing he can whip Aldo, and Aldo is a bbbaaaddd man.

 

[Szczepanik]

Aldo would of dismantled the Irishman. Conor doesn't have much of a defense for striking and leaves himself open to be hit. Aldo would of made him suffer greatly. If you take away Conor's mouth and trash talking, no one would be giving him a shot.

Conor is a product of Dana giving him the easiest path to the title. I firmly believe anyone in the top 5 would take him out with ease. He also cuts from 170(?) and avoids the lightweights where he should be fighting.

Mendes is going to finish him with ease.

 

[basstapp]

Aldo would of dismantled the Irishman. Conor doesn't have much of a defense for striking and leaves himself open to be hit. Aldo would of made him suffer greatly. If you take away Conor's mouth and trash talking, no one would be giving him a shot.

Conor is a product of Dana giving him the easiest path to the title. I firmly believe anyone in the top 5 would take him out with ease. He also cuts from 170(?) and avoids the lightweights where he should be fighting.

Mendes is going to finish him with ease.

I completely disagree. There aren't many fighters that take the angles Conor does and his kicks he has a killer instinct. I this Aldo is a great fighter and it would be a close match.

 

[Szczepanik]

I completely disagree. There aren't many fighters that take the angles Conor does and his kicks he has a killer instinct. I this Aldo is a great fighter and it would be a close match.

I think part of the reason he looks like such a killer is because of the competition in front of him. He doesn't have a big name on his resume. The biggest name on their is Poirier. Dennis Siver was a handpicked opponent because he was gatekeeper level, and also was at a considerable reach disadvantage to make Conor look better.

1Frankie Edgar

1
2Chad Mendes

1
3Conor McGregor

4Ricardo Lamas

5Max Holloway

6Cub Swanson

7Charles Oliveira

1
8Dennis Bermudez

1
9Nik Lentz

10Clay Guida

That is the top 10. He went to UD with Holloway, but Holloway was injured that fight anyways. I would want to see a matchup between the 2 again. I can see every fighter in the top 10 giving him fits with the exception of Lentz and Guida.

Champion : Rafael dos Anjos
1Anthony Pettis

2Donald Cerrone

3Khabib Nurmagomedov

4Eddie Alvarez

5Michael Johnson

1
6Benson Henderson

1
7Edson Barboza

1
8Myles Jury

1
9Josh Thomson

1
10Bobby Green

1
11Tony Ferguson

1
12Al Iaquinta

1
13Beneil Dariush

1
14Jorge Masvidal

1
15Nate Diaz
*NR
That is the top 15 for the Lightweights. I can pick 10 guys in this division that I'd take against him.

Keep in mind Duffy is in the UFC and the last guy to beat him. Also Uriah would have my vote against him. I want to see him against top tier guys instead of getting a crack at the title with his run through of the bottom half of the ranked division.

 

[Risen Star]

Aldo would of dismantled the Irishman. Conor doesn't have much of a defense for striking and leaves himself open to be hit. Aldo would of made him suffer greatly. If you take away Conor's mouth and trash talking, no one would be giving him a shot.

Conor is a product of Dana giving him the easiest path to the title. I firmly believe anyone in the top 5 would take him out with ease. He also cuts from 170(?) and avoids the lightweights where he should be fighting.

Mendes is going to finish him with ease.

Disagree. McGregor is really a lightweight with the ability to effectively make that weight cut. He would overwhelm Aldo on the feet. He's in a different league as a striker and he's the best distance fighter on the roster. I have no idea what would happen if the fight went to the ground but Aldo rarely goes there and with the way McGregor completely owned him during the world tour I don't think there's any way Aldo wouldn't want to stand and trade with him. Until he gets overwhelmed and knocked out. Cold.

What Conor has said about Aldo is true. He has made a career of fighting overblown 135er wrestlers who are mediocre on the feet. He is a different breed than any of Aldo's past opponents. It's a completely different fight and one I am convinced Aldo would lose.

On a side note - this is the 5th title fight Aldo has backed out of. All on US soil. I don't believe in coincidences.

IMO, Aldo wants no parts of McGregor. He'll be the biggest Chad Mendes fan on the planet this Saturday.

BTW, if you take away McGregor's trash talking, you still have a guy who has dominated every single minute of every fight he's had in the UFC. 3 top 10 ranked opponents, 1 top 5.....and he completely dominated the guy who just finished Cub Swanson and he did that on one leg. You still have a guy on a 12 fight win streak and an over 90% finish rate. I mean, if you're living in reality, that's impressive. You can't stand it, but it's impressive.

Your post reeks of a man who isn't rational and is just talking out of hate.

 

[Risen Star]

I think part of the reason he looks like such a killer is because of the competition in front of him. He doesn't have a big name on his resume. The biggest name on their is Poirier. Dennis Siver was a handpicked opponent because he was gatekeeper level, and also was at a considerable reach disadvantage to make Conor look better.

1Frankie Edgar

1
2Chad Mendes

1
3Conor McGregor

4Ricardo Lamas

5Max Holloway

6Cub Swanson

7Charles Oliveira

1
8Dennis Bermudez

1
9Nik Lentz

10Clay Guida

That is the top 10. He went to UD with Holloway, but Holloway was injured that fight anyways. I would want to see a matchup between the 2 again. I can see every fighter in the top 10 giving him fits with the exception of Lentz and Guida.

Champion : Rafael dos Anjos
1Anthony Pettis

2Donald Cerrone

3Khabib Nurmagomedov

4Eddie Alvarez

5Michael Johnson

1
6Benson Henderson

1
7Edson Barboza

1
8Myles Jury

1
9Josh Thomson

1
10Bobby Green

1
11Tony Ferguson

1
12Al Iaquinta

1
13Beneil Dariush

1
14Jorge Masvidal

1
15Nate Diaz
*NR
That is the top 15 for the Lightweights. I can pick 10 guys in this division that I'd take against him.

Keep in mind Duffy is in the UFC and the last guy to beat him. Also Uriah would have my vote against him. I want to see him against top tier guys instead of getting a crack at the title with his run through of the bottom half of the ranked division.

It's amazing that this dude says Holloway was injured in that fight but doesn't mention McGregor blew out his ACL halfway through the fight and ended up missing almost a year because of it.

That is the definition of bias and why you should flush anything he ever says about this topic in the future.

BTW, Poirier has fought a lot of top guys over the years. Only one has ran through him and put him to sleep.

 

[Szczepanik]

Disagree. McGregor is really a lightweight with the ability to effectively make that weight cut. He would overwhelm Aldo on the feet. He's in a different league as a striker and he's the best distance fighter on the roster. I have no idea what would happen if the fight went to the ground but Aldo rarely goes there and with the way McGregor completely owned him during the world tour I don't think there's any way Aldo wouldn't want to stand and trade with him. Until he gets overwhelmed and knocked out. Cold.

What Conor has said about Aldo is true. He has made a career of fighting overblown 135er wrestlers who are mediocre on the feet. He is a different breed than any of Aldo's past opponents. It's a completely different fight and one I am convinced Aldo would lose.

On a side note - this is the 5th title fight Aldo has backed out of. All on US soil. I don't believe in coincidences.

IMO, Aldo wants no parts of McGregor. He'll be the biggest Chad Mendes fan on the planet this Saturday.

BTW, if you take away McGregor's trash talking, you still have a guy who has dominated every single minute of every fight he's had in the UFC. 3 top 10 ranked opponents, 1 top 5.....and he completely dominated the guy who just finished Cub Swanson and he did that on one leg. You still have a guy on a 12 fight win streak and an over 90% finish rate. I mean, if you're living in reality, that's impressive. You can't stand it, but it's impressive.

Your post reeks of a man who isn't rational and is just talking out of hate.

It has been noted often that Conor cuts 28 lbs to get into this weight class. The only reason it seems he is the best distance fighter on the roster is that he doesn't fight guys his own size. Reason why he cuts down past the 155'ers. Aldo may have backed out of numerous fights but he is one of the most active champions on the UFC roster regardless of his pullouts. His drug testing for this upcoming event was also released coming back negative.

The only top 5 guy he has fought is Holloway..... and he fought him when he wasn't even ranked that high. They both fought when they were in the 10-15 range. Unless you can't Poirier, but that will be his only legitimate win. ***There is usually a number one contender fight to get the title. He got to skip the process by beating on Gatekeeper Siver to get there. His resume is very weak, especially for someone who runs his mouth as much as he does.

A 12 fight win streak is impressive, but 7 of those wins came in Ireland against fighters that aren't near UFC level guys. His 5-0 record is what should be looked at.

What is more impressive? a 14 fight streak coming from higher level fighters from the WEC days until present all. Swanson, Brown, Uriah in his prime, Gamburyan, Hominick, Florian, Mendes x2 , Frankie Edgar, Korean Zombie, Lamas, are all better fighters at the times that Jose fought them than ANY GUY CONOR HAS FACED.

Conor would of been the last guy Jose would of feared.

Anyhow win or lose with the Mendes fight I will eat my crow if I need to and be back in here after Saturday to reap what I sow.

Have you watched the UFC embedded series on this fight? Heard it is worth a watch, haven't had the time to sit down and watch it however.

 

[StarBoyz83]

The main fight I want to see on this card is on the prelims so I don't have to buy the ppv lol.

 

[basstapp]

It has been noted often that Conor cuts 28 lbs to get into this weight class. The only reason it seems he is the best distance fighter on the roster is that he doesn't fight guys his own size. Reason why he cuts down past the 155'ers. Aldo may have backed out of numerous fights but he is one of the most active champions on the UFC roster regardless of his pullouts. His drug testing for this upcoming event was also released coming back negative.

The only top 5 guy he has fought is Holloway..... and he fought him when he wasn't even ranked that high. They both fought when they were in the 10-15 range. Unless you can't Poirier, but that will be his only legitimate win. ***There is usually a number one contender fight to get the title. He got to skip the process by beating on Gatekeeper Siver to get there. His resume is very weak, especially for someone who runs his mouth as much as he does.

A 12 fight win streak is impressive, but 7 of those wins came in Ireland against fighters that aren't near UFC level guys. His 5-0 record is what should be looked at.

What is more impressive? a 14 fight streak coming from higher level fighters from the WEC days until present all. Swanson, Brown, Uriah in his prime, Gamburyan, Hominick, Florian, Mendes x2 , Frankie Edgar, Korean Zombie, Lamas, are all better fighters at the times that Jose fought them than ANY GUY CONOR HAS FACED.

Conor would of been the last guy Jose would of feared.

Anyhow win or lose with the Mendes fight I will eat my crow if I need to and be back in here after Saturday to reap what I sow.

Have you watched the UFC embedded series on this fight? Heard it is worth a watch, haven't had the time to sit down and watch it however.

Not to nitpick, but the idea of cutting weight to a smaller weight class is in everyone's mind. When I trained we had guys on our team dropping 20-30 lbs from their walking weight. It is probably Harder to drop weight and be healthy then it is to fight at your walking around weight.h

 

[Hoofbite]

Would the product be any less worthwhile if the did away with dropping a ton of weight only to immediately regain it?

I saw that they did away with IV rehydration which is probably a good first step. Any activity that requires hydration prior to the actual competition should probably rethink how they go about their business. Sadly, it will probably take a case of acute renal failure or death before they decide that dehydrating yourself to such an extent may not be the best idea as a staple of your industry,

 

[Szczepanik]

Would the product be any less worthwhile if the did away with dropping a ton of weight only to immediately regain it?

I saw that they did away with IV rehydration which is probably a good first step. Any activity that requires hydration prior to the actual competition should probably rethink how they go about their business. Sadly, it will probably take a case of acute renal failure or death before they decide that dehydrating yourself to such an extent may not be the best idea as a staple of your industry,

I am curious to see how it affects the fighters and their choice of weight class. I know Tim Kennedy and many other fighters use IV's asap to get back to their ideal weight. We may see a few notable changes.

Also the PED testing is very interesting because I didn't expect Gilbert Melendez to get popped. If he gets popped for PED's... I am curious to see who all else gets in trouble.

Will be very interesting definitely.

 

[Szczepanik]

Not to nitpick, but the idea of cutting weight to a smaller weight class is in everyone's mind. When I trained we had guys on our team dropping 20-30 lbs from their walking weight. It is probably Harder to drop weight and be healthy then it is to fight at your walking around weight.h

Very true. I have never liked the idea of cutting more than 10 lbs to make weight though. I would love same day weigh ins!

 

[Risen Star]

It has been noted often that Conor cuts 28 lbs to get into this weight class.

It has? Where? Because all I saw is a comment from Chael Sonnen that McGregor refuted.

Just about every fighter drops a lot of weight. This isn't newsworthy.

The only reason it seems he is the best distance fighter on the roster is that he doesn't fight guys his own size. Reason why he cuts down past the 155'ers.

Yes, he is bigger than the rest of the division. This is the main reason why I think he's the best at 145. When you are that good at range and distance, hit that hard and accurately and routinely have a reach advantage you will be hard to beat. I might have called Jon Jones the best distance fighter but he's not on the roster right now. I don't know if he's better than McGregor anyway. He certainly doesn't have his stopping power.

So it doesn't "seem" like it to be. He is. IMO.

Conor was a 145 and 155 champion in Cage Rage at the same time. He forfeited those belts when he came to the UFC. When he entered the UFC, they...not him, put him in the featherweight division. With the plan of destroying that division (so far, so good) and then doing the same at 155. If you're such a big UFC fan you should know this. It's been gone over numerous times. Perhaps pause the hate and listen once in a while. He wants to go to 155 ASAP. This fight would have been at 155 if Mendes didn't accept.

Aldo may have backed out of numerous fights but he is one of the most active champions on the UFC roster regardless of his pullouts. His drug testing for this upcoming event was also released coming back negative.

He is? He averages less than 2 fights a year. Did you think I wouldn't know that?

Aldo is one of the least active champions on the roster and has backed out of more title fights than anyone.

His drug test came back negative? You mean the one they took the day after his team had his initial test flushed on a technicality that is now being disputed by the testers? I'm shocked. This proves something.

Hey, the sample he gave them after having 24 hours notice of a "random" drug test came back negative. This man is clean.

The only top 5 guy he has fought is Holloway..... and he fought him when he wasn't even ranked that high.

Poirier was top 5 when they fought. He destroyed him. With a torn thumb. Nobody has ever done that to Dustin before or since.

They both fought when they were in the 10-15 range. Unless you can't Poirier, but that will be his only legitimate win. ***There is usually a number one contender fight to get the title. He got to skip the process by beating on Gatekeeper Siver to get there. His resume is very weak, especially for someone who runs his mouth as much as he does.

All I'm seeing here is a hater who can't stand how good this guy is. He has destroyed everyone he's faced. Including 3 ranked opponents. He toyed with the guy who just finished Cub. If you don't think he's been impressive you are a complete waste of time to talk to. It's not just who he has beaten (better than you're alleging) but how he is beating them.

I guess 5 round decisions is more to your liking. When the coward actually shows up to fight. BTW, Dana just came out and said Aldo didn't really have a broken rib. The pics his team released were of an old injury. He was afraid he wouldn't make weight. Google it.

Fun fact - All 5 of the fights Aldo backed out of were on US soil. Where...ya know...you don't get to flush drug tests until the next day. I'm just saying.

A 12 fight win streak is impressive, but 7 of those wins came in Ireland against fighters that aren't near UFC level guys. His 5-0 record is what should be looked at.

Ireland has a very impressive MMA track record recently. It's not UFC but it's not a cage set up a county fair either. What McGregor's resume to this point tells me is this guy is a devastating finisher. No matter where he fights.

What is more impressive? a 14 fight streak coming from higher level fighters from the WEC days until present all. Swanson, Brown, Uriah in his prime, Gamburyan, Hominick, Florian, Mendes x2 , Frankie Edgar, Korean Zombie, Lamas, are all better fighters at the times that Jose fought them than ANY GUY CONOR HAS FACED.

McGregor's more impressive to me. He's a finisher. He destroys opponents. Aldo is a survivor. A 48-47, 49-46 winner. Against the same type of opponent. Blown up wrestlers who aren't good on their feet. It's difficult for me to have any respect whatsoever for Aldo because I am convinced he's a steroid cheat. It runs rampant in Brazil. So while I'll certainly admit he's had a great career, I believe he's done it cheating.

Conor would of been the last guy Jose would of feared.

Why would McGregor be the last guy? Because you hate him? The featherweight division is full of guys who can't bust a grape. McGregor will take your head off.

Actions are what matter. Two guys talked. One guy showed up. The President of the UFC is telling you nothing was broken and he was medically cleared to fight. That's all that matters to me. I give no benefit of the doubt to Aldo or his team as I don't trust nor respect them at all. I really think he'd have gotten taken out rather easily. He can't strike with McGregor. Mendes is a much tougher fight because he will shoot takedowns. So there's my predictions for this fight. If it goes to the ground often, I have no idea what will happen but I would bet Mendes just because I know his background. If it stays standing up for the most part, this will be a one sided beating.

One thing about the wrestler. You're a McGregor hater. So you're one of these guys who are pretending he can't wrestle. Why? Because you can't possibly criticize his striking? You haven't seen much wrestling, so he must suck at that. This is your hope. You might be right, but you also might be wrong. There is no real evidence either way.

Anyhow win or lose with the Mendes fight I will eat my crow if I need to and be back in here after Saturday to reap what I sow.

I'm really not interested in you eating any crow or any of that sensitive keep score nonsense that infests this board. I was just responding to your laughable mention that Holloway was injured in that fight, hoping nobody knew McGregor tore his ACL during it. That's kind of, sort of newsworthy. I think if Aldo did that you'd buy a new poster for the wall.

Have you watched the UFC embedded series on this fight? Heard it is worth a watch, haven't had the time to sit down and watch it however.

I've watched everything about this McGregor experience. Anyone who says this guy isn't the biggest star on this roster is kidding themselves. They're talking out of hate. They had thousands for a friggin weigh in today. It is unreal.

 

[Szczepanik]

The President of the UFC is telling you nothing was broken and he was medically cleared to fight. That's all that matters to me.

If you are such a big follower of MMA, you would know that Dana lies consistently and runs his mouth 24/7 .

Dana has never been known to throw fighters under the bus when they aren't one of his lemmings riiiighhht?

Aldo has been a champ for 10 years, his competition throughout those years has been much larger than anyone of the few "ranked" opponents of Conor. Conor is a skilled fighter, but I refuse to dangle between his legs like most of these "new" MMA fans do. I also would not dare compare the level of competition that Aldo has faced anywhere to Conor's.

What this boils down to is " I give no benefit of the doubt to Aldo or his team as I don't trust nor respect them at all. "

You dislike Aldo, and you love Conor, and you enjoy debate. That is all it is. No shame in being on the hype train with everyone else. It seems to me you "hate" Aldo moreso than I "hate" Conor.

Is there a chance that Conor beats Mendes? Of course. Still doesn't change my view on Conor getting trained on by the 155'ers, and his resume.
He can sell a show. Whether or not he is good enough to stand with the top of the competition remain to be seen. I also wouldn't go back a couple of years to compare competition with Holloway. Holloway has progressed just as Conor has a fighter. When major time passes between fights, the fighters are not the same... not at all.

You want to bring up when Conor beat Holloway who tooled Cub? Okay, I can go back and say remember when Aldo finished Cub before you even sat down on the couch?

Proving my point: Poirier, Holloway and Siver are the names you spit out in defending Conor's shot at a title. Truth is, he ran his mouth. Everyone knows the Edgar should of been the guy to be vs Aldo and didn't get it due to him not talking ****.

Poirier, Holloway, Siver. 2 TKO, 1 UD. vs any 3 of Aldo's fights.... ummm . Shouldn't even be close on who has the better resume. When was the last time Aldo got finished by the way? Answer: A lot longer than the last time Conor got finished.