MNF Game Thread - Giants @ Saints

[Staggerlee]

Thats it saints, pour salt on the wound.

 

[gimmesix]

Well cause there is really a pretty big difference between Romo and Brees, and IMO the comparison isn't really all that close especially over the last few years.

I think the only real difference is Brees is more consistent. That's not a wide gulf, but it is a gulf.

 

[The30YardSlant]

So you're going to tell me when Romo is ON HIS GAME, he isn't on the same level as Brees, Brady or Rodgers?

If Romo is on his game and Brees, Brady or Rodgers are just "good" that day, yes, Romo is on their level. Romo doesnt have the top gear the other three have, though. At their best, they are better. It's not just the numbers either, it's the throws they make and the ease with which the game seems to come to them. At times it's like there isnt a defense on the field.

 

[wileedog]

If Romo is on his game and Brees, Brady or Rodgers are just "good" that day, yes, Romo is on their level. Romo doesnt have whatever the top gear the other three have, though. At their best, they are better.

No shame in that either. Those 3 and Peyton are the best of this generation. Being a step below is still pretty darn good.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I think the only real difference is Brees is more consistent. That's not a wide gulf, but it is a gulf.

Consistency means alot for a QB. Brees, Brady, and Rodgers just have a higher ceiling of being great, plus they all of course have what Romo doesn't.

A ring or two.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think the only real difference is Brees is more consistent. That's not a wide gulf, but it is a gulf.

Explain how he is more consistent.

This is calling the grass on the other side greener.

He has thrown 11 picks this year. Has 1 3 interception game, and three 2 interception games, and has only 4 games without interceptions.

12 career games throwing 3 or more picks.

 

[The30YardSlant]

No shame in that either. Those 3 and Peyton are the best of this generation. Being a step below is still pretty darn good.

Of course not, those three guys will all retire as top 7-8 QBs of all-time.

 

[gimmesix]

If Romo is on his game and Brees, Brady or Rodgers are just "good" that day, yes, Romo is on their level. Romo doesnt have the top gear the other three have, though. At their best, they are better. It's not just the numbers either, it's the throws they make and the ease with which the game seems to come to them. At times it's like there isnt a defense on the field.

I don't agree. I think when Romo is playing his best, he's equal to their best. I don't see a gear that they have that Romo doesn't.

The only difference I see is consistency.

 

[benson]

Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
T. Romo 22 34 312 1 0


Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
D. Brees 29 45 298 1 1


When both were on the same field together, I'd say Romo can play with Brees.

 

[Galian Beast]

Consistency means alot for a QB. Brees, Brady, and Rodgers just have a higher ceiling of being great, plus they all of course have what Romo doesn't.

A ring or two.

Other than Brady none of these guys have more than one ring. Brees and Rodgers have only won rings in the last few years.

2009 and 2010.

Brees' career qb rating is 92.5, 84.9 in san diego.

Tony Romo has a higher touchdown percentage, and the same career interception rating.

Before 2009 Drew Brees' playoff record was 1-2....

 

[gimmesix]

Consistency means alot for a QB. Brees, Brady, and Rodgers just have a higher ceiling of being great, plus they all of course have what Romo doesn't.

A ring or two.

I don't get the "higher ceiling" thing. Are you saying that no matter how well Romo plays, he can't be on their level? If so, I disagree completely.

 

[Clove]

No shame in that either. Those 3 and Peyton are the best of this generation. Being a step below is still pretty darn good.

Aikman was not the most explosive QB in the 90s stat-wise, but he had all the jewelry.

Just like Roethlisberger. Who cares if Romo's not the top 4 quarterbacks? As long as he gets us jewelry, and plenty of em.

 

[Galian Beast]

You guys have created a mythology over these quarterbacks.

Brees has been a starter in the nfl since 2002 yet has only made it to the playoffs 4 times. Was 1 and done twice, lost in the second round once.

 

[wileedog]

Consistency means alot for a QB. Brees, Brady, and Rodgers just have a higher ceiling of being great, plus they all of course have what Romo doesn't.

A ring or two.

I hate the ring argument with a passion. I can guarantee you neither Brees or Rodgers have one if Wade was their coach for the last 3 years.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I don't agree. I think when Romo is playing his best, he's equal to their best. I don't see a gear that they have that Romo doesn't.

The only difference I see is consistency.

I have never seen Tony Romo do what Drew Brees did tonight. I'm not talking numbers, I'm just talking about how he played the game. The Giants never had a chance, the ball was on a rope all night and it just came out so quickly. He made right read after right read and did so with impossibly precise quickness and precision.

If Romo ever plays a game like Brees did tonight, I'll have a completely different opinon of him knowing he is capable of that. It's just magical to watch.

 

[Galian Beast]

I have never seen Tony Romo do what Drew Brees did tonight. I'm not talking numbers, I'm just talking about how he played the game. The Giants never had a chance, the ball was on a rope all night and it just came out so quickly. He made right read after right read and did so with impossibly precise quickness and precision.

I guess you didn't see the Bills game...

 

[Galian Beast]

Or the Thanksgiving game where he had like 5 touchdowns...

Dude get off it.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I guess you didn't see the Bills game...

Not even a comparison. Romo was great that day. Brees was something else entirely tonight. What Brees did tonight makes me wonder what makes a select few human beings capable of athletic feats such as that.

 

[gimmesix]

Explain how he is more consistent.

This is calling the grass on the other side greener.

He has thrown 11 picks this year. Has 1 3 interception game, and three 2 interception games, and has only 4 games without interceptions.

12 career games throwing 3 or more picks.

Brees is completing over 70 percent of his passes this year. He completed 68 percent last year and over 70 percent the year before.

He also had 33 or more TD passes the previous three years and is on his way past that mark again this year.

Romo's numbers aren't equal to that because he isn't quite as consistent. That doesn't mean there's much separating them, but Romo is "off" more than Brees is.

 

[The Panch]

Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
T. Romo 22 34 312 1 0


Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
D. Brees 29 45 298 1 1


When both were on the same field together, I'd say Romo can play with Brees.

The other time they played...


Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
26/38 384 5-0....Brees

16/33 249 1-2....Romo


I love Tony, but Brees/Rodgers/Brady/Manning he is not.