Monte Kiffin Turning Heads

[Clove]

Reasons to hope, but until it translates to winning games, it's just hype.

This.....

 

[speedkilz88]

Ok, just a minute here. A few years ago, our defense was being laughed at, made fun of by QB's though out the league. Good QB's said we were predictable; as the QB approached the LOS he knew exactly where to go to make good plays. They bought in new coaches to make us unpredictable. Now, are we going back to being predictable, with our blitzes be picked up each and every time, with holes wide enough to drive a pickup through? I am scared of "the old man" and the "old ways". Another wasted couple of years?
Hope they prove me wrong, but I think that is about a 20% chance.

So were the seahawks and bears predictable?

 

[ghst187]

if Monte gets our D creating a lot of turnovers, esp INTs from our DBs, he will be a humongous upgrade. Also like for him to keep Lane far far away from our team, that guy is a cancer.

 

[xwalker]

It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.

The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.

 

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

You whisper when you speak, and thus force people to try and hear what you are saying.

:laugh2: makes sense. Might try it

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.

The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.

Agreed.

It's a very good defensive staff.

 

[1LoyalCowboyFan]

Agreed.

It's a very good defensive staff.

So happy to have Marinelli

 

[gimmesix]

Ok, just a minute here. A few years ago, our defense was being laughed at, made fun of by QB's though out the league. Good QB's said we were predictable; as the QB approached the LOS he knew exactly where to go to make good plays. They bought in new coaches to make us unpredictable. Now, are we going back to being predictable, with our blitzes be picked up each and every time, with holes wide enough to drive a pickup through? I am scared of "the old man" and the "old ways". Another wasted couple of years?
Hope they prove me wrong, but I think that is about a 20% chance.

Predictable isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The strength of the cover-2 4-3 isn't that it's confusing for the offense, but that it's difficult to exploit. You have to be patient and precise against it.

Defenses like Phillips' 3-4 can't afford to be predictable because that opens up big-play opportunities.

 

[Risen Star]

It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.

The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.

It's not hard to believe for me. One, I prefer the 3-4. It's a superior scheme, IMO.

Two, Kiffin's bones are like pretzels. He's been out of the league for a few years and there's really no telling how much energy and sanity he's got left. I don't question his past. It's his present and future. The clock's ticking on Romo. To make a defensive scheme switch right now and the transition that goes with that, doesn't seem like a great idea.

Three, with Jason Garrett facing a win or else season, nobody's going to convince me he was the driving force behind this move. I think this was the owner and his son thinking they know better and the head coach rolling over and showing his freckled belly. If I'm right, it's set up to fail. I don't care about sound bites from the team after the fact. It simply doesn't pass the smell test that Garrett decided to add a defensive scheme change and transitional period to his plate entering a season where clearly his job is on the line.

The owner talked about making people uncomfortable. That's what he was referring to. A Jerry Jones driven offseason has never worked.

 

[CoCo]

It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.

The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.

New to the board?

 

[Idgit]

It's not hard to believe for me. One, I prefer the 3-4. It's a superior scheme, IMO.

Two, Kiffin's bones are like pretzels. He's been out of the league for a few years and there's really no telling how much energy and sanity he's got left. I don't question his past. It's his present and future. The clock's ticking on Romo. To make a defensive scheme switch right now and the transition that goes with that, doesn't seem like a great idea.

Three, with Jason Garrett facing a win or else season, nobody's going to convince me he was the driving force behind this move. I think this was the owner and his son thinking they know better and the head coach rolling over and showing his freckled belly. If I'm right, it's set up to fail. I don't care about sound bites from the team after the fact. It simply doesn't pass the smell test that Garrett decided to add a defensive scheme change and transitional period to his plate entering a season where clearly his job is on the line.

The owner talked about making people uncomfortable. That's what he was referring to. A Jerry Jones driven offseason has never worked.

What if Jason's not facing a win or else season, after all?

I can't honestly see anyone other than JG behind the defensive hires--unless you think the Joneses are paving the way for Lovie next season, and that's pretty cynical, sticking a lame duck coach with his replacement's staff.

 

[Risen Star]

What if Jason's not facing a win or else season, after all?

I can't honestly see anyone other than JG behind the defensive hires--unless you think the Joneses are paving the way for Lovie next season, and that's pretty cynical, sticking a lame duck coach with his replacement's staff.

I don't have to believe he's setting the team up for Lovie or Gruden or anybody to think he was behind these moves. I think this is just classic Jerry and his complete disrespect for the position of head coach. He can fix the defense. Jason just needs to worry about the offense.

Even if the names are quality, how they got there matters. A head coach must command his own locker room. He must have the loyalty of his staff. Not just in sound bites to appease fans. If I'm right and Jason Garrett was not the driving force behind this change, it won't work.

But anyway....I gave valid reasons for not liking the new staff. You don't have to agree, but they are legitimate concerns a fan can have without being one of those "hater" characters.

 

[Idgit]

I don't have to believe he's setting the team up for Lovie or Gruden or anybody to think he was behind these moves. I think this is just classic Jerry and his complete disrespect for the position of head coach. He can fix the defense. Jason just needs to worry about the offense.

Even if the names are quality, how they got there matters. A head coach must command his own locker room. He must have the loyalty of his staff. Not just in sound bites to appease fans. If I'm right and Jason Garrett was not the driving force behind this change, it won't work.

I agree with all that, but you don't bring these guys in for a lame duck season, either, if you're just going to clean house the next season.

If anything, I think this group of defensive coaches means he's expecting the defense to improve and Garrett to get a likely longer run than he might otherwise get. I'd expect the playoffs are a requirement for Garrett to be safe, but it wouldn't shock me if we were competitive and didn't make it to see JG squeeze out another year.

 

[jjktkk]

I don't have to believe he's setting the team up for Lovie or Gruden or anybody to think he was behind these moves. I think this is just classic Jerry and his complete disrespect for the position of head coach. He can fix the defense. Jason just needs to worry about the offense.

Even if the names are quality, how they got there matters. A head coach must command his own locker room. He must have the loyalty of his staff. Not just in sound bites to appease fans. If I'm right and Jason Garrett was not the driving force behind this change, it won't work.

But anyway....I gave valid reasons for not liking the new staff. You don't have to agree, but they are legitimate concerns a fan can have without being one of those "hater" characters.

But you are a hater. Do you think that writing colorful paragraphs of your takes on Jerry, hides your hate?

 

[Risen Star]

I agree with all that, but you don't bring these guys in for a lame duck season, either, if you're just going to clean house the next season.

If anything, I think this group of defensive coaches means he's expecting the defense to improve and Garrett to get a likely longer run than he might otherwise get. I'd expect the playoffs are a requirement for Garrett to be safe, but it wouldn't shock me if we were competitive and didn't make it to see JG squeeze out another year.

Why would you think if Garrett goes the others have to go too? How often has Jerry hired a head coach and let him completely makeover the staff?

And why would you think he thinks that far ahead? We're talking about Jerry Jones here. The most impulsive GM in the league.

 

[Bluestang]

I don't even know why I bother creating threads here anymore when they turn into Jerry this or that stances.

The OP was about Kiffin and what observers were saying about him this week at the combine. Nothing more, nothing less.

I used to laugh at how every thread turned into Jerry bashing fest but now it's just pathetic.

 

[Risen Star]

I don't even know why I bother creating threads here anymore when they turn into Jerry this or that stances.

The OP was about Kiffin and what observers were saying about him this week at the combine. Nothing more, nothing less.

I used to laugh at how every thread turned into Jerry bashing fest but now it's just pathetic.

I manage to handle dissenting opinions.

xwalker said he can't imagine any fan complaining about the new defensive staff. I gave him a reply on why some fans would, including me.

It's hard to talk Cowboys and not talk Jerry. Impossible actually, if you want to live in the real world.

 

[LatinMind]

It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.

The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.

People would find something to complaing about even with a superbowl win. I suspect the first thing would be, how long before Jerry messes this up.

 

[Bluestang]

I manage to handle dissenting opinions.

xwalker said he can't imagine any fan complaining about the new defensive staff. I gave him a reply on why some fans would, including me.

It's hard to talk Cowboys and not talk Jerry. Impossible actually, if you want to live in the real world.

It's not hard at for me so I must live in fantasy land. The same one where the Patriots have to restructure deals for their star QB in order to provide cap room to sign their own FAs.

Oh and btw xwalker did not mention Jerry at all but you took the liberty to do so to make your point which IMO didn't need to have the Jerry stuff at all to be valid.

 

[BAT]

I can understand the doubt about Kiffin, but Marinelli's D schemes are more than proven. His Bears D has been lights out. They pressure the QB, stop the run AND they create turnovers.

And this is coming from a 3-4 fan.