Monte Kiffin's new title

Crown Royal · Apr 28, 2014

Lots of cooks in the kitchen with a bunch of titles, kind of tough to figure out who is accountable for what.

Doomsday101 · Apr 28, 2014

Crown Royal said:
Lots of cooks in the kitchen with a bunch of titles, kind of tough to figure out who is accountable for what.

Not really only 1 HC all responsiblity falls to him. HC is accountable for offense, defense and special team his assistant coaches victories and failures fall to the HC.

Crown Royal · Apr 28, 2014

Doomsday101 said:
Not really only 1 HC all responsiblity falls to him. HC is accountable for offense, defense and special team his assistant coaches victories and failures fall to the HC.

Ultimately, sure. But what's the dynamic on a day to day? And it's the same on offense, we have assistant head coach Callahan, offensive coordinator Linehan.

I'm not there for the daily installation meetings, etc., but that seems like a huge committee.

Doomsday101 · Apr 28, 2014

Crown Royal said:
Ultimately, sure. But what's the dynamic on a day to day? And it's the same on offense, we have assistant head coach Callahan, offensive coordinator Linehan.

I'm not there for the daily installation meetings, etc., but that seems like a huge committee.

OL players will be working with Callahan, Linehan will oversee the entire offense, Marinelli will oversee defense. As for Kiffin his role will be diminished to an extent but given the working and personal relationship of Marinelli and Kiffin I don't see it as an issue. Ultimately though it all will fall back on Garrett.

jazzcat22 · Apr 28, 2014

Donny Phoenix said:
I think MK is there as a Tampa-2 mentor for all the coaches, JG included. To take it one step further, I think this was the plan all along, as ive stated in earlier threads. I think the plan was to have the architect of the defense install it year one, then have his best student, Marinelli, run it in year 2 while he mentors the other coaches. I seriously doubt the Cowboys hired Kif as a long term solution as DC at the age of 73. But keeping him on as a mentor/consultant, it could create an air of stability and continuity on the defensive side of things. Maybe we end up with several "Marinelli's" as the other coaches start to understand the nuances of this defense, as taught by the architect of it. I dont know that you get too many chances to learn a defense or offense from the person who created it. MK is coaching the coaches. But that's all speculation and hopeful thinking.

I been saying this all along too. Great post.

As for the OP...it means absolutely nothing...or it means he is a 'consultant".

ShiningStar · Apr 28, 2014

We went from having the saying..the big D in Dallas was for defense. ..now the big D stands for dysfunctional. ..let it go..hes foing to collect a paycheck to realize ..you cant go home again.....he should have stayed out of the nfl....now this is just going to grind it in his face...

Zimmy Lives · Apr 28, 2014

Romo 2 Austin said:
After losing the Defensive Coordinator title he is now the Assistant Head Coach of Defense. What does that even mean haha

It means he has to count the chairs in the defensive meeting room so everyone has a place to sit.

Sarge · Apr 28, 2014

Whenever I see the name Monte Kiffin I start smelling mothballs.

jobberone · Apr 28, 2014

Crown Royal said:
Ultimately, sure. But what's the dynamic on a day to day? And it's the same on offense, we have assistant head coach Callahan, offensive coordinator Linehan.

I'm not there for the daily installation meetings, etc., but that seems like a huge committee.

Not that unusual and forget the titles. There are a lot of people involved in the game plan. Parcells had a run coordinator and a passing coordinator.

jobberone · Apr 28, 2014

Sarge said:
Whenever I see the name Monte Kiffin I start smelling mothballs.

It's not naphthalene you're smelling my friend.

Bleu Star · Apr 28, 2014

Romo 2 Austin said:
After losing the Defensive Coordinator title he is now the Assistant Head Coach of Defense. What does that even mean haha

Monte who? Is he related to that Miles guy?

jobberone · Apr 29, 2014

ShiningStar said:
We went from having the saying..the big D in Dallas was for defense. ..now the big D stands for dysfunctional. ..let it go..hes foing to collect a paycheck to realize ..you cant go home again.....he should have stayed out of the nfl....now this is just going to grind it in his face...

I haven't the foggiest idea what the heck this means.

Doomsay · Apr 29, 2014

Crown Royal said:
Lots of cooks in the kitchen with a bunch of titles, kind of tough to figure out who is accountable for what.

It's probably the most destructive element of the two Jerry-in-charge phases of the post Landry era. As inept as I think Jason is, he doesn't stand a chance to prove his critics wrong in this distributed power framework where nobody can ever be seen as a challenge to the GM.

Avenger · Apr 29, 2014

Romo 2 Austin said:
After losing the Defensive Coordinator title he is now the Assistant Head Coach of Defense. What does that even mean haha

It means: His money is guaranteed, so we'll keep him around to dump the trash cans... or something.

Doomsay · Apr 29, 2014

windward said:
Other teams have done similar things in the past. This isn't news , nor should it be a reason to pile on the team either.

I'm trying to think of examples of legendary coordinators of Monte's stature being pressured to leave after a disastrous performance, being replaced by their former subordinate and then being retained to somehow mentor the unit that they were just essentially fired from.

ShiningStar · Apr 29, 2014

jobberone said:
I havent the foggiest idea what the heck this means.

Real simple...was kiffen ciming back to the nfl worth it?....I say no...I think he got the same feeling. ...

What do u think?

casmith07 · Apr 29, 2014

Doomsday101 said:
Not really only 1 HC all responsiblity falls to him. HC is accountable for offense, defense and special team his assistant coaches victories and failures fall to the HC.

Pretty much. Anyone else suggesting otherwise need only look around this very forum to see where all the blame falls.

Stryker44 · Apr 29, 2014

Corso said:
I'm going to make a serious guess and say he's still around to help with the overall gameplans from week to week with Marinelli, but it's RM who's in control of his D.

Basically a glorified position with no real power to do anything or get anything done other than hold RM's ear from time to time and have some lemonade.

Why would you want Marinelli in charge - when Kiffin is the Master who taught Marinelli about football?

casmith07 · Apr 29, 2014

Bleu Star said:
Monte who? Is he related to that Miles guy?

Exactly. Who cares. For all intents and purposes he's gone.

Doomsday101 · Apr 29, 2014

casmith07 said:
Pretty much. Anyone else suggesting otherwise need only look around this very forum to see where all the blame falls.

There is more than one coordinator, many assistant coaches but there is only 1 HC, all work under him. People trying to claim there is no responsiblity BS it falls to the HC be in Dallas or a college or high school team. The role of the HC is to oversee the entire team their failures are his failures

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