Moore, McCarthy or Dak. one of them has to go

[G2]

Sorry for the length,
Moore, 100% percent and without a doubt. And I've been a supporter.
Gametime situational play calling is not very good vs. stout defenses.
Similar scheme to Garrett, abandoning the run, unaware of the benefits of the balance. Especially when you only have one playmaker WR.
Did not transition from Elliott's workload to Pollards. 2-3 seasons is the lifespan.
The great teams have a good defense, but also have a solid run game which is HUGE late season when the weather blows and opponents are banged up. A fresh rotation works. See the 49ers.
Route tree concepts are all over the place and do not put the offense in the proper place to be successful consistently.
His choice routes often times puts WRs INTO more defensive traffic. This makes read progressions under pressure pretty difficult.
Why does he have a boner for curl routes? And sometimes multiple run the same route in one play.
Just when you thought last years end of game, desperation play wasn't a big enough failure, hold my beer, we're stepping up this season to putting your lineman wide and your skill players inside, and have Elliott the ONLY player on the line? Holy hell, what could go wrong? At least Zeke got the snap off this season.

Moore doesn't do what Dan Quinn does. You give him obstacles and the next thing you know, there's a pile of rookies starting and making decent plays. Along with putting the talent in position to smoke their matchups. Parsons may have never become a part time edge rusher without him. He would be missed the most in my opinion.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I got to this point with the Romo/Garrett marriage around 2012. It wasn't working.. and it didn't look like it every would. The only thing that changed my mind was that stretch at the end of 2013 when Romo willed us into playoff contention and basically took over play calling from Garrett from that point forward. Why do I want this to happen? I will detail them one by one.

Moore:
Reason number 1) "Yards are yards." Ever since he made this statement I have wanted him gone. He doesn't understand or appreciate the running game and it showed up again Sunday. The 49ers were averaging the same paltry ypc we were until late in the 4th quarter yet they NEVER went away from it. Meanwhile we went full Mountain West pretty much from the jump.

Reason number 2) Good DCs know our plays. Teams have been telling us for 15 years that they can tell what the Cowboys are going to run on any given play in any given situation based on offensive and defensive alignments. We see repeatedly that defenders are in our backfield immediately on run plays and they are sitting waiting for our receivers (or the ball) to come to them on pass plays.

Reason number 3) Ultimately it's his job to get the most out of his players and that includes Dak. He's certainly not getting the most out of Dak but I could add Lamb, Zeke, TP and damn near anybody else on the offense to that list.

McCarthy:
Reason number 1) Game management.. We had the ball and control of the game with a minute and a half left in the first half and he let Moore and Dak run a damn high risk pass over the middle into the teeth of the defense which led to the INT when the smart move would have been either run the ball, eat clock and make sure not only that you go into the half up and in control but you leave them no time and no momentum. And if you were going to throw it, it's a fade to the corner where your guy gets it or nobody does. I get that he may not have fully understood what that play call was.. but that's all the more reason he needs to be gone. Those game management gaffes are a recurring theme since he got here.

Dak:

Reason number 1 I still believe his biggest fault is he believes too much in Kellen Moore. HE should have been the one to shake off some of those stupid pass plays in dumb situations. He is a good pocket passer but not a great pocket passer. So get the hell out of the pocket and make plays and be great and quit sitting in the pocket and being average. I think getting away from Moore might save his career from being Tony Romo 2.0 AND it might get a QB under center in Dallas who Moore will either have to go back to the Cooper Rush game plan with or that QB will be better than Dak and take the team to that next level.

Reason number 2) He accepts losing too gracefully. I get that the QB needs to be calm and even keel but I need him to get more pissed off and fired up when guys are out there running half-*** routes or dropping balls or lollygagging going out of bounds or just not blocking up front. He also needs to RUN THE DAMN BALL MORE. I don't care if the damn critics don't consider him "elite" if he runs it 10-12 times for 50+ yards a game. If that's what is needed to win games.. then that's what you do. I would much rather see a 5-6 yard run and slide vs a last second dumpoff to Zeke or TP with 6 inches before they go out of bounds and a defender standing right next to them.

I do think that best possible solution is for Moore to leave. And take Nussmeier with him. They have not significantly improved Dak's performance over these last three years.. so I'm done with them. Let McCarthy implement his offense, bring in a QB coach who CAN improve Dak's performance and LFG. But it would not hurt me to see McCarthy gone as well. If he's not strong enough to keep Boy Wonder in check then he's not the man to lead this team to the promised land anyway.

Ironically its your hero that has to go. Game was all but over the moment Pollard went down. Your hero might be the worst back in the NFL at this point. Cant even catch anymore.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not sure what you're trying to say here.. Dak had a bad game.. This is not open for debate. I am talking about how we could have won the game anyway... And maybe call some different plays that snap him out of his funk. RPO, designed QB runs, things that get his juices flowing. Why the hell do I as a coach have to say "Oh well my QB is having an off day, may as well not even play the rest of the game..?" Why do I not adapt my play calling to the situation? And try to win the damn game? If I can say the QB had a bad game why can I not give an equally scathing review of what the coaches did without it being called some other softheaded label? The game was there for the taking even with Dak not having a great game. The Cowboys simply chose not to take it.

What kind of game did you hero Zeke have? When Polllard went down he had his golden opportunity to show us how great he is and he could carry a team. He sucked as bad as Dak did.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Not sure what you're trying to say here.. Dak had a bad game.. This is not open for debate. I am talking about how we could have won the game anyway... And maybe call some different plays that snap him out of his funk. RPO, designed QB runs, things that get his juices flowing. Why the hell do I as a coach have to say "Oh well my QB is having an off day, may as well not even play the rest of the game..?" Why do I not adapt my play calling to the situation? And try to win the damn game? If I can say the QB had a bad game why can I not give an equally scathing review of what the coaches did without it being called some other softheaded label? The game was there for the taking even with Dak not having a great game. The Cowboys simply chose not to take it.

I'm saying that your critique of Dak is limited to "he had a bad game" - period and you then proceed to give an unbalanced diatribe of excuses that turn the blame on everyone and anyone else.

You mention "plays to snap him out of his funk".....like what, if he cant hit a curl he's not going to anything more advanced. RPO's, yea, why did Dak stop, he was doing to well, then HE decided to stop executing. the only reason I can see is that without Tony as the decoy he feared 9ers would deploy a 'spy', or was it that he crumbled on losing his running threat and thought he'd go full Adam and the Ants.

There were some mitigating circumstances, TP's injuries and Moore's either over complex or dumber than dumb, but regardless of those factors you'd expect your Franchise QB to raise to the occasion and adversity.....he's the man with the ball in his hand.

 

[Bigdog]

Well there's hope Moore gets the Carolina job and that solves one of your situations. McCarthy isn't going anywhere so do not expect it and the same goes for Dak. My hope is we keep Quinn for another year although it might not happen. Frankly, the next OC is going to be the most challenging thing we do in the offseason. If Brady retires then bring him in immediately as the QB coach, would be the best thing to happen with Dak.

Brady is not coming here to be the qbs coach where he can be in the broadcast booth making $35 million or more. I think he has a 10 year contract with Fox for over $350 million.

 

[leeblair]

I got to this point with the Romo/Garrett marriage around 2012. It wasn't working.. and it didn't look like it every would. The only thing that changed my mind was that stretch at the end of 2013 when Romo willed us into playoff contention and basically took over play calling from Garrett from that point forward. Why do I want this to happen? I will detail them one by one.

Moore:
Reason number 1) "Yards are yards." Ever since he made this statement I have wanted him gone. He doesn't understand or appreciate the running game and it showed up again Sunday. The 49ers were averaging the same paltry ypc we were until late in the 4th quarter yet they NEVER went away from it. Meanwhile we went full Mountain West pretty much from the jump.

Reason number 2) Good DCs know our plays. Teams have been telling us for 15 years that they can tell what the Cowboys are going to run on any given play in any given situation based on offensive and defensive alignments. We see repeatedly that defenders are in our backfield immediately on run plays and they are sitting waiting for our receivers (or the ball) to come to them on pass plays.

Reason number 3) Ultimately it's his job to get the most out of his players and that includes Dak. He's certainly not getting the most out of Dak but I could add Lamb, Zeke, TP and damn near anybody else on the offense to that list.

McCarthy:
Reason number 1) Game management.. We had the ball and control of the game with a minute and a half left in the first half and he let Moore and Dak run a damn high risk pass over the middle into the teeth of the defense which led to the INT when the smart move would have been either run the ball, eat clock and make sure not only that you go into the half up and in control but you leave them no time and no momentum. And if you were going to throw it, it's a fade to the corner where your guy gets it or nobody does. I get that he may not have fully understood what that play call was.. but that's all the more reason he needs to be gone. Those game management gaffes are a recurring theme since he got here.

Dak:

Reason number 1 I still believe his biggest fault is he believes too much in Kellen Moore. HE should have been the one to shake off some of those stupid pass plays in dumb situations. He is a good pocket passer but not a great pocket passer. So get the hell out of the pocket and make plays and be great and quit sitting in the pocket and being average. I think getting away from Moore might save his career from being Tony Romo 2.0 AND it might get a QB under center in Dallas who Moore will either have to go back to the Cooper Rush game plan with or that QB will be better than Dak and take the team to that next level.

Reason number 2) He accepts losing too gracefully. I get that the QB needs to be calm and even keel but I need him to get more pissed off and fired up when guys are out there running half-*** routes or dropping balls or lollygagging going out of bounds or just not blocking up front. He also needs to RUN THE DAMN BALL MORE. I don't care if the damn critics don't consider him "elite" if he runs it 10-12 times for 50+ yards a game. If that's what is needed to win games.. then that's what you do. I would much rather see a 5-6 yard run and slide vs a last second dumpoff to Zeke or TP with 6 inches before they go out of bounds and a defender standing right next to them.

I do think that best possible solution is for Moore to leave. And take Nussmeier with him. They have not significantly improved Dak's performance over these last three years.. so I'm done with them. Let McCarthy implement his offense, bring in a QB coach who CAN improve Dak's performance and LFG. But it would not hurt me to see McCarthy gone as well. If he's not strong enough to keep Boy Wonder in check then he's not the man to lead this team to the promised land anyway.

Don't worry; if Dak stays he'll cost all of them their job.
But by then, who cares?

 

[plasticman]

Jerry Jones has to go.

With our luck, he'll break that nun's record for oldest living person.

Imagine a 120 year old Jerry Jones, still the Cowboys GM.

 

[5Stars]

I got to this point with the Romo/Garrett marriage around 2012. It wasn't working.. and it didn't look like it every would. The only thing that changed my mind was that stretch at the end of 2013 when Romo willed us into playoff contention and basically took over play calling from Garrett from that point forward. Why do I want this to happen? I will detail them one by one.

Moore:
Reason number 1) "Yards are yards." Ever since he made this statement I have wanted him gone. He doesn't understand or appreciate the running game and it showed up again Sunday. The 49ers were averaging the same paltry ypc we were until late in the 4th quarter yet they NEVER went away from it. Meanwhile we went full Mountain West pretty much from the jump.

Reason number 2) Good DCs know our plays. Teams have been telling us for 15 years that they can tell what the Cowboys are going to run on any given play in any given situation based on offensive and defensive alignments. We see repeatedly that defenders are in our backfield immediately on run plays and they are sitting waiting for our receivers (or the ball) to come to them on pass plays.

Reason number 3) Ultimately it's his job to get the most out of his players and that includes Dak. He's certainly not getting the most out of Dak but I could add Lamb, Zeke, TP and damn near anybody else on the offense to that list.

McCarthy:
Reason number 1) Game management.. We had the ball and control of the game with a minute and a half left in the first half and he let Moore and Dak run a damn high risk pass over the middle into the teeth of the defense which led to the INT when the smart move would have been either run the ball, eat clock and make sure not only that you go into the half up and in control but you leave them no time and no momentum. And if you were going to throw it, it's a fade to the corner where your guy gets it or nobody does. I get that he may not have fully understood what that play call was.. but that's all the more reason he needs to be gone. Those game management gaffes are a recurring theme since he got here.

Dak:

Reason number 1 I still believe his biggest fault is he believes too much in Kellen Moore. HE should have been the one to shake off some of those stupid pass plays in dumb situations. He is a good pocket passer but not a great pocket passer. So get the hell out of the pocket and make plays and be great and quit sitting in the pocket and being average. I think getting away from Moore might save his career from being Tony Romo 2.0 AND it might get a QB under center in Dallas who Moore will either have to go back to the Cooper Rush game plan with or that QB will be better than Dak and take the team to that next level.

Reason number 2) He accepts losing too gracefully. I get that the QB needs to be calm and even keel but I need him to get more pissed off and fired up when guys are out there running half-*** routes or dropping balls or lollygagging going out of bounds or just not blocking up front. He also needs to RUN THE DAMN BALL MORE. I don't care if the damn critics don't consider him "elite" if he runs it 10-12 times for 50+ yards a game. If that's what is needed to win games.. then that's what you do. I would much rather see a 5-6 yard run and slide vs a last second dumpoff to Zeke or TP with 6 inches before they go out of bounds and a defender standing right next to them.

I do think that best possible solution is for Moore to leave. And take Nussmeier with him. They have not significantly improved Dak's performance over these last three years.. so I'm done with them. Let McCarthy implement his offense, bring in a QB coach who CAN improve Dak's performance and LFG. But it would not hurt me to see McCarthy gone as well. If he's not strong enough to keep Boy Wonder in check then he's not the man to lead this team to the promised land anyway.

OMG...wow, my main man Ronnie, why in the hell did I just read all of this? lol. That's three minutes I'll never get back!

Is this one of them practice questions like in school? You already know the answer for the next two years.

 

[Bing]

Not going to happen. We are stuck with Dak because of his contract. McCarthy is not going anywhere, JJ will wait until he needs a scapegoat before firing him. We are no where close to that happening yet. Moore is not going anywhere because no one is dumb enough to hire him as a head coach.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Ironically its your hero that has to go. Game was all but over the moment Pollard went down. Your hero might be the worst back in the NFL at this point. Cant even catch anymore.

The second Pollard went down I texted my friend and said we need to use Davis that we can't win this game w Zeke at RB. Lol