Mort Report....TO can seek trade..

[Billy Bullocks]

I think the point is that Philly isn't looking for a huge return from T.O., they want to dictate where he goes if they can.

So, if he can cut a deal with some AFC team, then they'd be willing to take maybe some depth player and a mid-round pick for him.

exactly...if they release him, they face the possibility he goes to an NFC team, or worse, and NFC East opponent. Regardless of what he does off the field, TO is a monster on it. And they dont want to face him twice a year

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Let's take a closer look at the initiative. Here's a few myths ...

The Eagles are going to cut TO any way, so why not just wait until then ...

Wrong! You must think Eagles GM are fools! They know what they've got, and they are willing to barter for it. We've opened Pandora's Box, but through litigation, we were able to close it. We'll sell you, or any franchise the "box" for a lucrative trade/offer.

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QUOTE]The Eagles aren't looking for a huge return for TO; Eagles want to dictate where TO goes if they can; so, if he can cut a deal with some AFC team, then they'd be willing to take maybe some depth player and a mid-round pick for him.

Actually, this myth has potential. I believe the Eagles are looking for a Huge return (see my comments above), but they may choose to send TO packing to an AFC Team trade ...

Chargers Trade

Raiders (Moss trade)

Dolphins (Ricky Williams)

NFC

Commanders Trade (Arrington/Ramsey)

Cowboys Trade (Ellis/KeShawn)

Giants Trade (Burress/Shockey)

Bears (Brian Urlacher)

Question: I'm doing the research, but perhaps someone else may have information regarding the legality of a TO trade. I read somewhere, perhaps a month ago, that we could not trade TO due to someting that came out of this recent arbitration.

If that's true ...then not only were the Eagles hurt by TOs off-the-field behavior, his lewd remarks about his QB, coaching staff, and various team members, but this TO saga would have gone down as the worst case of of a disruptive player in Eagles history.

If we cannot get a return on TO, then -- and only then, I say take him ...and I spit on the ground TO walks as closes the door to the Eagles locker-room (metaphorically speaking of course).

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Yep, nobody's going to trade for him. There aren't too many takers No. 1, No. 2 teams know that under no uncertain terms will TO be playing for the Eagles and No. 3, any team that trades for him has to assume his current contract, the one he was griping about. You let him test the free agent market and structure a deal that suitable to him and to the team, including major morality clauses.

No disrespect T1d, but I disagree. Now don't get defensive, I don't disagree because you are a Cowboys fan. I disagree because I'm closer to this whole TO situation than most because I am an Eagles fan that has been reading up on this debacle right from Eagles spring training.

There are more NFL "takers" than you think out there ...including your own Cowboys franchise that are willing to re-open the Pandora-TO box! Say wehat you will about TO, but I believe he does love the game of football. I don't believe TO is willing to sit out yet another year as he gets older and less marketable. No, TO will do his part to get back out on the grid-iron.

FA market is too good for TO, and I just don't believe the NFLPA, the NFL Commissioner, Owners, Coaches and anyone else who has a hand in on the decision making process can sit by and let TO come out smelling like a rose in this mess.

There are teams that would bendover backwards to acquire TO; and the Eagles know it. That's a bargaining chip that the Eagles will not just toss away based on everything that has happened. You can have TO ...but not for free!

 

[Jarv]

No disrespect T1d, but I disagree. Now don't get defensive, I don't disagree because you are a Cowboys fan. I disagree because I'm closer to this whole TO situation than most because I am an Eagles fan that has been reading up on this debacle right from Eagles spring training.

There are more NFL "takers" than you think out there ...including your own Cowboys franchise that are willing to re-open the Pandor-TO box! Say wehat you will about TO, but I believe he does love the game of football. I don't believe TO is willing to sit out yet another year as he gets older and less marketable. No, TO will do his part to get back out on the grid-iron.

FA market is too good for TO, and I just don't believe the NFLPA, the NFL Commissioner, Owners, Coaches and anyone else who has a hand in on the decision making process can sit by and let TO come out smelling like a rose in this mess.

There are teams that would bendover backwards to acquire TO; and the Eagles know it. That's a bargaining chip that the Eagles will not just toss away based on everything that has happened. You can have TO ...but not for free!

If he's so valuable, why don't you just keep him ?

 

[thewivil]

Let's take a closer look at the initiative. Here's a few myths ...



Wrong! You must think Eagles GM are fools! They know what they've got, and they are willing to barter for it. We've opened Pandora's Box, but through litigation, we were able to close it. We'll sell you, or any franchise the "box" for a lucrative trade/offer.

I'm sorry, man, but unless there's a ****** for a GM out there, they won't give anything for T.O.

First of all, the vast majority of teams aren't even going to give him a look.

The teams that are interested in him know there's no rush to get anything done because the Eagles will release him. What else are they going to do? Unless they just keep him inactive again next year, but that would just be a huge waste of money and the Player's Union would go crazy.

Actually, this myth has potential. I believe the Eagles are looking for a Huge return (see my comments above), but they may choose to send TO packing to an AFC Team trade ...

Chargers Trade

Raiders (Moss trade)

Dolphins (Ricky Williams)

NFC

Commanders Trade (Arrington/Ramsey)

Cowboys Trade (Ellis/KeShawn)

Giants Trade (Burress/Shockey)

Bears (Brian Urlacher)

Question: I'm doing the research, but perhaps someone else may have information regarding the legality of a TO trade. I read somewhere, perhaps a month ago, that we could not trade TO due to someting that came out of this recent arbitration.

If that's true ...then not only were the Eagles hurt by TOs off-the-field behavior, his lewd remarks about his QB, coaching staff, and various team members, but this TO saga would have gone down as the worst case of of a disruptive player in Eagles history.

If we cannot get a return on TO, then -- and only then, I say take him ...and I spit on the ground TO walks as closes the door to the Eagles locker-room (metaphorically speaking of course).

Looking down that list, I can't see a single reason why any of those teams would trade their players for T.O.

I highly doubt the Eagles will get anything other than a very late round draft pick in return for T.O.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Let some other team have this headcase.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

If they do trade him, the only way he would be traded to us if we were absolutely the only team with any interest. As much as Philly probably hates him, I doubt they want his talent within the conference, let alone the division.

BBs,

I want you to know right from the start that I completely understand where you're coming from...but, giving up TO to an FNC franchise might be the worst thing that could happen to the NFC -- especially if that team is Dallas. While the Pandora-TO box has been closed for now, if reopened, it could be just as bad for that team as it has been for Jeff Garcia, and the 49ers, and the Eagles and Donovan McNabb!

I think he Eagle GM is past hate -- this is strictly business now that the regular season is over. Therefore if we have a bargaining chip, we trade it for a major return/playmaker such as KeShawn/Ellis Cowboys), Arrington (Commanders) ...etc

An NFL threat is a threat whether his name is TO or Moss. If his name happens to be TO, the advantage is that the Eagles know TO habits on the field and probably kow some of his weaknesses -- you can have him ...you'd just better make sure Bledsoe keep him happy, and KeShawn is willing to share his reception stats!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

If he's so valuable, why don't you just keep him ?

I Know you must mean that faceously, but I'll respond seriously. Obviously TO has been a bad experience (to say the least) for the Eagles franchise, McNabb, Andy Reid, and several Eagle players.

The best way I could explain a response to you is by saying that TO is not famous ...he's infamous! TO has talent on the field, but his dedication is based on dollars and cents. His attachment to football is Not so much for team and the Love the game, as it is for self and sensationalism.

We've tried to keep him -- and he wants to stay! But inspite of himself, he's detrimental to the Eagles; as he was to the 49ers before us ...and who knows what other franchise In the future. But somehow, TO will make his way to the headlines. Speaking for myself, I'd much rather thta TO makes those headlines somewhere Other than as an Eagle!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I'm sorry, man, but unless there's a ****** for a GM out there, they won't give anything for T.O.

First of all, the vast majority of teams aren't even going to give him a look.

The teams that are interested in him know there's no rush to get anything done because the Eagles will release him. What else are they going to do? Unless they just keep him inactive again next year, but that would just be a huge waste of money and the Player's Union would go crazy.



Looking down that list, I can't see a single reason why any of those teams would trade their players for T.O.

I highly doubt the Eagles will get anything other than a very late round draft pick in return for T.O.

Alright ...if you'd like, let's watch the progression on this one and remember to get back with each other later.

 

[Jarv]

I Know you must mean that faceously, but I'll respond seriously. Obviously TO has been a bad experience (to say the least) for the Eagles franchise, McNabb, Andy Reid, and several Eagle players.

The best way I could explain a response to you is by saying that TO is not famous ...he's infamous! TO has talent on the field, but his dedication is based on dollars and cents. His attachment to football is Not so much for team and the Love the game, as it is for self and sensationalism.

We've tried to keep him -- and he wants to stay! But inspite of himself, he's detrimental to the Eagles; as he was to the 49ers before us ...and who knows what other franchise In the future. But somehow, TO will make his way to the headlines. Speaking for myself, I'd much rather thta TO makes those headlines somewhere Other than as an Eagle!

Your right, yes I did mean that faceously...

But having read your reply, I agree...and having read it, why would we or anyone else take that chance...Or if they CHOOSE to take, why pay a high price for it.

Buy a lotto ticket for $1. Make millions or lose a dollar.

People don't pay 10 million dollars and draft picks for a lotto ticket.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

But having read your reply, I agree...and having read it, why would we or anyone else take that chance...Or if they CHOOSE to take, why pay a high price for it.

Buy a lotto ticket for $1. Make millions or lose a dollar. People don't pay 10 million dollars and draft picks for a lotto ticket.

Quality response.

I don't know, I guess I agree with you because in a reverse role, under the same circumstances, I wouldn't take the chance on acquiring him; especially know everything we all now know.

Two things come to mind ...

1) More than a few teams have already come on line expressing their interest. That said, which team wants Him more!?

2) The one is closer to home for you ...some of your own colleague fans are
showing a major interest in obtaining TO despite the cost of the "raffle ticket." In fact, the Eagles accused Jerry Jones of interferring with the TO leagal proceedings by coming on line stating his interest in acquiring TO if the opportunity presented itself.

BTW, do you have change for a dollar?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

In the immortal words of Drew Rosenhaus, "Next Question".

In response to this:

"What have you done for TO besides get him kicked off of the team?"

 

[Ashwynn]

It makes sense to trade for TO if you want him.

These would be his remaining cap numbers :

2006 770,000.00
2007 5,500,000.00
2008 6,500,000.00
2009 7,500,000.00
2010 8,500,000.00

A premier WR for less than a mil.

Then you have your one year testing ground. Either he performs or gets booted. If he wants to sit out or cause a ruckus, than screw him. Make him a permanent bench player, release him, or trade him with zero cap ramifications.

What are you risking ? A 3rd or fourth rounder ? Then you eliminate the competion and need to work a new contract.

Well if hes so dang cheap, I am sure your little Danny boy will buy him.

 

[DLCassidy]

Let's take a closer look at the initiative. Here's a few myths ...



Wrong! You must think Eagles GM are fools! They know what they've got, and they are willing to barter for it. We've opened Pandora's Box, but through litigation, we were able to close it. We'll sell you, or any franchise the "box" for a lucrative trade/offer.

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Actually, this myth has potential. I believe the Eagles are looking for a Huge return (see my comments above), but they may choose to send TO packing to an AFC Team trade ...

Chargers Trade

Raiders (Moss trade)

Dolphins (Ricky Williams)

NFC

Commanders Trade (Arrington/Ramsey)

Cowboys Trade (Ellis/KeShawn)

Giants Trade (Burress/Shockey)

Bears (Brian Urlacher)

Question: I'm doing the research, but perhaps someone else may have information regarding the legality of a TO trade. I read somewhere, perhaps a month ago, that we could not trade TO due to someting that came out of this recent arbitration.

If that's true ...then not only were the Eagles hurt by TOs off-the-field behavior, his lewd remarks about his QB, coaching staff, and various team members, but this TO saga would have gone down as the worst case of of a disruptive player in Eagles history.

If we cannot get a return on TO, then -- and only then, I say take him ...and I spit on the ground TO walks as closes the door to the Eagles locker-room (metaphorically speaking of course).

You're a serious poster so I know you didn't make this post in jest. But please archive this one when this interminable TO thing finally comes to a merciful close. The trade possibilities you list are, at least to me, downright hilarious.

The Eagles didn't give up nearly as much as ANY of those offers when they acquired Owens in the first place (a 5th round pick plus former 4th round DE Brandon Whiting) and that was before Owens pulled the antics he pulled last year which have made Owens radioactive in a lot of circles and at the very least less desirable. I'm sure it must be nice to fantasize getting such a return for your wayward star but it ain't gonna happen. No trade- just released.

 

[neosapien23]

If the Cowboys get TO, then we need to keep Larry Allen!! Owens is extremely childish, but he did punk the entire Eagle's locker room. Allen would squash TO like a bug, not sure if Keyshawn or Bledsoe could get the job done.

But seriously, why does anyone want Owens? He is a known coach killer.

 

[thewivil]

If the Cowboys get TO, then we need to keep Larry Allen!! Owens is extremely childish, but he did punk the entire Eagle's locker room. Allen would squash TO like a bug, not sure if Keyshawn or Bledsoe could get the job done.

But seriously, why does anyone want Owens? He is a known coach killer.

I agree, but I think he would meet his match with Big Bill.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I agree, but I think he would meet his match with Big Bill.

What makes you say that?

Again, I will ask the same question.

Bill Parcells couldnt get through Antonio Bryant's thick skull, an individual with no skins on the wall.

Why do people think:

Bill Parcells will be able to get through the thick skull of a polished receiver, with a million skins on the wall, 30+ years old and stuck in his ways?

Now I took 2nd Grade twice...so I know this logic doesnt exactly make sense.

 

[Kilyin]

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[JonJon]

Because Owens knows that he is on the hot seat, and that this may be his last chance. If he fails to act like he has any sense, then he may not ever play in the NFL again. If he wants to play, he know he better shut his mouth and show respect or his career is over.

 

[thewivil]

What makes you say that?

Again, I will ask the same question.

Bill Parcells couldnt get through Antonio Bryant's thick skull, an individual with no skins on the wall.

Why do people think:

Bill Parcells will be able to get through the thick skull of a polished receiver, with a million skins on the wall, 30+ years old and stuck in his ways?

Now I took 2nd Grade twice...so I know this logic doesnt exactly make sense.

I'm not saying Bill will break him like some wild stallion. I'm just saying that Bill won't put up with his crap.

If he did come here, which I don't think he will, I'd imagine Parcells would keep TO on an extremely short leash and any kind of hiccup would be met with a severe punishment.

fa·ce·tious

Heh heh, I almost noted that one too, but decided to let it pass.