Mosley: Hashmarks: Where to Next Tank? (suggests Dallas)

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't think that really proves anything.

I guess Kareem Larrimore is the meanest NFL player ever :laugh2:

 

[WoodysGirl]

but how do you sign a player who is not supposed to get paid for 8 games, someone please clarify that for me?

honest question

You answered it yourself. He doesn't get paid for 8 games. His salary is split in half.

Not even promoting this idea, but I see the logic. Say he's exonerated...as far as the tox screen.

You sign a very talented guy for the vet min with prolly little to nothing signing bonus. IF he adheres to his suspension guidelines, you get to monitor his progress until he can contribute. When his suspension is up, then you can decide from there whether to keep him or cut him.

It's like a late season pickup to further solidify a position that's lacking depth.

 

[AbeBeta]

you can always find intense players who aren't about to get their arses suspended for 8 games

How come we haven't found them then?

 

[WoodysGirl]

How come we haven't found them then?

What do you consider intense?

 

[AbeBeta]

What do you consider intense?

There was a nice list of them before. Your boyfriend was on it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How come we haven't found them then?

idk, maybe they aren't looking for them, or their interpretation of the intensity needed is different from ours

 

[Vintage]

How come we haven't found them then?

We opted not too. Ware over Merriman...

Carpenter over Lawson...

Julius Jones over Stephen Jackson (because of the trade down)...

Drafting nice guys like Jacob Rogers, Kevin Burnett, Stephen Peterman, Bob Slowiskowski.

 

[AbeBeta]

idk, maybe they aren't looking for them, or their interpretation of the intensity needed is different from ours

let me ask -- have you seen intensity from the D -- or even anyone who plays with a mean streak on the D recently?

 

[WoodysGirl]

There was a nice list of them before. Your boyfriend was on it.

Cute. I ask a question and get a smart *** comment in return.

I must've missed the list. As for whether Woody was on it or not it doesn't matter. Not sure why you keep bringing him up to me anyway randomly in the middle of a discussion. I asked WHAT do you consider intense, not WHO do you consider intense.

How do you identify someone as intense or not? Alot of people have a perception that the team's off-field nice guy demeanor affects their on-field demeanor. So what do you consider intense?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

let me ask -- have you seen intensity from the D -- or even anyone who plays with a mean streak on the D recently?

idk of anyone who plays w/ a mean-streak, but being real good at what you do requires intensity aka competitiveness, Ware and Newman come to mind, I think Carp has some intensity to him

I agree though that we lack that guy who exemplifies that fiery intensity, Roy shows it from time to time, but we don't have that consistent, fiery player

 

[Vintage]

Cute. I ask a question and get a smart *** comment in return.

I must've missed the list. As for whether Woody was on it or not it doesn't matter. Not sure why you keep bringing him up to me anyway randomly in the middle of a discussion. I asked WHAT do you consider intense, not WHO do you consider intense.

How do you identify someone as intense or not? Alot of people have a perception that the team's off-field nice guy demeanor affects their on-field demeanor. So what do you consider intense?

Whenever I think intense, this is the first thing that pops up in my head...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7sK3AqFYAWQ

 

[superpunk]

idk,

idk

idk...my bff Jill?

But seriously - there's intensity here. Loads of it. You can see it in some of those highlight videos, you can see it after some special teams plays.

but visible manifestations of that intensity, drawing attention to yourself, dancing around and degrading your opponents - was something Parcells WOULD NOT tolerate. Don't think that wasn't a significant part of our perceived lack of fire. Parcells wanted them collected, keeping their head in the game, not embarassing their opponent. Fans mistake that for a lack of intensity.

edit: ****....you got me.

 

[Vintage]

He shoots, he scores....

I threw it out there too....in the open and all...."the cockiness the young fella has....he is confident in his game."

 

[adamknite]

but visible manifestations of that intensity, drawing attention to yourself, dancing around and degrading your opponents - was something Parcells WOULD NOT tolerate. Don't think that wasn't a significant part of our perceived lack of fire. Parcells wanted them collected, keeping their head in the game, not embarassing their opponent. Fans mistake that for a lack of intensity.

Just thought I'd say, great post/point. I'd give you an award but I have nothing to offer but myself, and I believe that's illegal.

 

[theogt]

but visible manifestations of that intensity, drawing attention to yourself, dancing around and degrading your opponents - was something Parcells WOULD NOT tolerate. Don't think that wasn't a significant part of our perceived lack of fire. Parcells wanted them collected, keeping their head in the game, not embarassing their opponent. Fans mistake that for a lack of intensity.

Pulling out the Bill "Bogeyman" Parcells card. I see how you roll.

 

[AbeBeta]

Cute. I ask a question and get a smart *** comment in return.

I must've missed the list. As for whether Woody was on it or not it doesn't matter. Not sure why you keep bringing him up to me anyway randomly in the middle of a discussion. I asked WHAT do you consider intense, not WHO do you consider intense.

How do you identify someone as intense or not? Alot of people have a perception that the team's off-field nice guy demeanor affects their on-field demeanor. So what do you consider intense?

I call "intense" a guy who plays with a mean streak but is also - John Lynch, Urlacher, and Bruschi come to mind. Those are guys who sometimes do things that other players label "dirty" -- but they are guys who play smart and know when to take their shots -- Most importantly, these are guys who get their teammates excited as hell. I can't recall any of those guys having off-field problems. However, you sometimes get guys who are intense both on and off the field and that can cause problems.

Ideally, you want the teddy bear off the field who is a nasty beast on the field - those guys usually play smart.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

edit: ****....you got me.

http://img513.*************/img513/5403/454374072cd5732584cfg2.jpg

 

[superpunk]

Pulling out the Bill "Bogeyman" Parcells card. I see how you roll.

he's been known to cause cancer.

This is legit.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I call "intense" a guy who plays with a mean streak but is also - John Lynch, Urlacher, and Bruschi come to mind. Those are guys who sometimes do things that other players label "dirty" -- but they are guys who play smart and know when to take their shots -- Most importantly, these are guys who get their teammates excited as hell. I can't recall any of those guys having off-field problems. However, you sometimes get guys who are intense both on and off the field and that can cause problems.

Ideally, you want the teddy bear off the field who is a nasty beast on the field - those guys usually play smart.

But what are those things that a guy must do to display intensity to you and why do they have to play "dirty?"

On this Cowboys squad, I see alot of celebration after a good play. When Barber has punished a couple guys on his way to the end zone, he's got guys all over him. I see excitement after a big hit. I've seen a little extra barking to other players after a good play. What more should we expect from them. Some Ray Lewis-type stomping? Some big time demonstration after a sack?

Even though we haven't seen much of it the last two years, I've always thought Roy was the catalyst which made the defense get hyped. On offense, for this year, I would say Barber, Witten, TO.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But what are those things that a guy must do to display intensity to you

The answer is obvious: