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not to be crude or rude, there IS NO DEBATE. He has an obligation and duty to all 32 teams to get his body right,PERIOD END OF STORY. He hasn't done so. Nothing can be fascilitated...NOTHING without him doing what he should have done already!!! Which is get the shoulder fixed, THE SIGN THE TAG. By doing those things he would be on track to play ball week 1. Now its in limbo. There isn't "both sides" to this debate. Trust me when I say, The Dallas Cowboys FO is seeing it this way exactly. Its good business. Why invest top dollar into ANYONE OR ANYTHING is its damaged? It would be fool hearty.
 
The Cowboys seriously messed up by passing up on TJ Watt but instead drafting Taco Charlton. Ugh. That bad pick is haunting the Cowboys right now.

Imagine if TJ Watt was here instead? Cowboys could have traded D-Law since last season. Because Taco has greatly underachieved, the Cowboys are in a big bind which D-Law and his agent are taking full advantage of.
 
Rayman70 said:
DONT MATTER. Tank is hurt as of now. All negotiations are stuck in limbo as a result of the fact he hasn't signed the tag and or gotten the surgery. Until those 2 things happen, this will drag on and get very ugly leading up to the draft.
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Negotiations are stuck because he hasn't signed his tag?

Ummm, no.
 
Abebeta, listen...the guy hasn't done himself any favors. Why is that somehow NOT on him? lol...By him refusing to sign the franchise tag, even if Dallas and DLAW wanted to make a trade happen, they can't...because of the trade compensation the tag garners. Its set. DLAW can play hard ball all he wants to, that's fine.It will get him nothing. But if he acted like a professional and signed it, fixed the shoulder, THEN I guarantee you we would see a longterm deal get done sometime before week 1 of the season. This is not how you do business if your DLAW.
 
Rayman70 said:
DONT MATTER. Tank is hurt as of now. All negotiations are stuck in limbo as a result of the fact he hasn't signed the tag and or gotten the surgery. Until those 2 things happen, this will drag on and get very ugly leading up to the draft.
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He is gonna screw himself and this team by waiting to get his surgery. He will sign the tag at the last minute and get his surgery and won’t be 100% to start the year, his agents advise needs to spread to all GM in the league to know who they are dealing with when he represents a player. He should ran out of the business if you ask me.
 
glimmerman said:
He is gonna screw himself and this team by waiting to get his surgery. He will sign the tag at the last minute and get his surgery and won’t be 100% to start the year, his agents advise needs to spread to all GM in the league to know who they are dealing with when he represents a player. He should ran out of the business if you ask me.
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agree. THIS is the agent all the way,not the player.
 
BTW 20 MIL to play on the tag isn't chump change lol..worse case scenario. Best case...we sign him longterm during the season or trade him for fair tag compensation value. Signing the tag is a win win for all parties involved.
 
glimmerman said:
He is gonna screw himself and this team by waiting to get his surgery. He will sign the tag at the last minute and get his surgery and won’t be 100% to start the year, his agents advise needs to spread to all GM in the league to know who they are dealing with when he represents a player. He should ran out of the business if you ask me.
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glimmerman...SOME refuse to see the light on this message board...dunno if its blind loyalty to a "pet cat" or what lol...but its definitely tone deafness and being blind to the facts.
 
no team worth its salt will run negotiations in the manner DLAW and his agent want. NONE...ZIPPO. WON'T HAPPEN. I have never seen a NFL player get away or even try this crap...holding an injury over the teams head as if SOMEHOW it will speed up or facilitate a deal being reached. its really juvenile and petty.
 
Rayman70 said:
yes. and hasn't done squat to fix his shoulder. BOTH FACTS.
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Lawrence is acting on the recommendation of the guy he pays a % to negotiate his deal. He sees this as leverage and an accelerator to get a new deal in place. That hasn't worked yet but that doesn't mean it won't.

Rayman, I wouldn't get too pissed at Lawrence, he's playing the real game, the one that really matters to the players. If he's late arriving 100% on the season, there is not one player in that locker room not going to be on his side. We would like to believe in that "team first" concept but that does not exist and would not have had the older players had FA back in their day. When any player has a shot at that 2nd contract, it's all business.

And in his defense, he not only was the good soldier in accepting the tag, he made it really easy on the club with the expectations he would be rewarded for that and now he's expecting that reward.

That said, I haven't changed my opinion that even doing the deal they've offered at 20 is going to be a team killer. The problem with the Cowboys isn't Lawrence, it is a DC set in the old ways and unable to use versatile players to create a pass rush and a general fear of the blitz. Why in the hell do the Cowboys have the most high risk owner in the league and the most conservative DC who built his rep on player talent, not coaching?
 
Rayman70 said:
glimmerman...SOME refuse to see the light on this message board...dunno if its blind loyalty to a "pet cat" or what lol...but its definitely tone deafness and being blind to the facts.
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I just see no possible way this works for the team. And he has waited so long on the surgery that it’s not going to work out for him either. Trade value wise he is losing as much as we are. Nobody wants a injured player that has refused to get himself fixed and ready..
 
right is right, and wrong, WRONG. What this is for the player is TERRIBLE OPTICS for all 32 teams. If he gets his way and Dallas caves, this sets the bar..or the tone for other players to do the same. THIS JUST CANT HAPPEN.
 
CouchCoach said:
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/...shers-new-england-patriots-kansas-city-chiefs

We all have different views about what to do with Lawrence but this article is the best I have seen just from the cap v production standpoint and I hope the FO of the Cowboys reads it.
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Nice post, unfortunately Jerry will do what Jerry wants to do, heck some on this board will tell you the only reason the Pats are great is because Tom Brady's wife makes so much not because they have a great strategy on valuing players and stick to it.
 
Rayman70 said:
THANK YOU..I been saying this to myself also...its all this is.
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Best thing he could do is fire his agent and get surgery. Either play under the tag and sign a long term deal during the season or sign the one offered now.
 
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