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Lawrence is acting on the recommendation of the guy he pays a % to negotiate his deal. He sees this as leverage and an accelerator to get a new deal in place. That hasn't worked yet but that doesn't mean it won't.

Rayman, I wouldn't get too pissed at Lawrence, he's playing the real game, the one that really matters to the players. If he's late arriving 100% on the season, there is not one player in that locker room not going to be on his side. We would like to believe in that "team first" concept but that does not exist and would not have had the older players had FA back in their day. When any player has a shot at that 2nd contract, it's all business.

And in his defense, he not only was the good soldier in accepting the tag, he made it really easy on the club with the expectations he would be rewarded for that and now he's expecting that reward.

That said, I haven't changed my opinion that even doing the deal they've offered at 20 is going to be a team killer. The problem with the Cowboys isn't Lawrence, it is a DC set in the old ways and unable to use versatile players to create a pass rush and a general fear of the blitz. Why in the hell do the Cowboys have the most high risk owner in the league and the most conservative DC who built his rep on player talent, not coaching?
NAH, I'm good and not pissed. Just voicing some frustrations. In business and life, what I see here wouldn't fly. I feel what he is doing will fail on a massive scale. This cannot be allowed. Players can't hold teams hostage like this and get away with it. KUDOS to the Steelers for standing their ground btw. Same has to be done here. LOVE THE PLAYER, hate the process I see.
 

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You absolutely cannot do your D like Belly unless Belly is your coach. It takes a mastermind to do this.

And Brady as your QB, who gets rid of the ball so fast.

Get some interior rushers and S's who can cover and you'd be more on the way to beating NE. And a DC who can meet NE move for move.
 

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Lawrence is acting on the recommendation of the guy he pays a % to negotiate his deal. He sees this as leverage and an accelerator to get a new deal in place. That hasn't worked yet but that doesn't mean it won't.

Rayman, I wouldn't get too pissed at Lawrence, he's playing the real game, the one that really matters to the players. If he's late arriving 100% on the season, there is not one player in that locker room not going to be on his side. We would like to believe in that "team first" concept but that does not exist and would not have had the older players had FA back in their day. When any player has a shot at that 2nd contract, it's all business.

And in his defense, he not only was the good soldier in accepting the tag, he made it really easy on the club with the expectations he would be rewarded for that and now he's expecting that reward.

That said, I haven't changed my opinion that even doing the deal they've offered at 20 is going to be a team killer. The problem with the Cowboys isn't Lawrence, it is a DC set in the old ways and unable to use versatile players to create a pass rush and a general fear of the blitz. Why in the hell do the Cowboys have the most high risk owner in the league and the most conservative DC who built his rep on player talent, not coaching?
he needs to fire the agent btw
 

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memo to Tank: Want this to get done? DO YOUR PART TOO! What is your part you say? Get your arse on the surgical table,fix the shoulder THEN SIGN THE TAG! Without those 2 things being done, you can expect not to get paid, period. LASTLY...fire that POS you call an agent...actually, that should be your first order of business.
 

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Biased because they've picked a side to be on.
exactly...and that's a bad mistake. Gotta look at this thing as it stands...on its own merit. Not what YOU want the facts to mean. Agree. Facts are not changing, he has to sign the tag in order to get things heading the right way for all parties. Fixing that shoulder is dire and a must.
 

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memo to Tank: Want this to get done? DO YOUR PART TOO! What is your part you say? Get your arse on the surgical table,fix the shoulder THEN SIGN THE TAG! Without those 2 things being done, you can expect not to get paid, period. LASTLY...fire that POS you call an agent...actually, that should be your first order of business.
If we rescind the tag and let him walk, I highly doubt DLaw gets more than 15 mil/season in FA.
 

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FIRST, fire the agent TODAY. Secondly, sign the tag this weekend. NEXT, fix the shoulder..THEN as time goes before week 1, a deal will be struck that's good for everyone. That's suppose to be how this works.
 

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Stephen jones, we been critical of him, but one thing...he aint Jerry Jones. He won't sign damaged goods. He is shrewd. Tank/the agent underestimated him.
 

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ksk, I think what your sayin is, one guy can't hold the team...ie the defense hostage like this. That's not how you win. That's my take.
 

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Me personally I am firing my agent right before they put me under for my surgery. Then with ice still on my fixed shoulder I go into JJ office and either sign the tag or the new contract. I personally think the contract is fair. Maybe ask for a extra 5 million in guaranteed money. They will throw that in.
 

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The Cowboys seriously messed up by passing up on TJ Watt but instead drafting Taco Charlton. Ugh. That bad pick is haunting the Cowboys right now.

Imagine if TJ Watt was here instead? Cowboys could have traded D-Law since last season. Because Taco has greatly underachieved, the Cowboys are in a big bind which D-Law and his agent are taking full advantage of.
Maybe taco will play better on the left side.
As it stands even if tank signs his tag or a contact, he will probably miss the start of the season rehabbing. Tank should recieve snaps in his place splitting with hyder and maybe crawford(if not suspended)
He is more of a natural fit there imo and with quinn playing re, id really be lowballing tank at this point for hin overvaluing himself and not taking care of his body, getting surgery.
 

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If we rescind the tag and let him walk, I highly doubt DLaw gets more than 15 mil/season in FA.

He may not be worth more than that but I suspect he would get more than that. Too many teams who could use an edge rusher with a lot of cap room.
 
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