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I agree Brett Farve is one of the most over rated players of all time
Anyone who uses Brett Favre and over rated in the same sentence should lose a lot of credibility.
I agree Brett Farve is one of the most over rated players of all time
jksmith269 said:Roy Williams ... gets to much hype for his big hits and not enough critisim for his blown coverages and being out of place
Slyster said:Just about every QB that has won a SB is overrated except for a few.
Then
1 . Joe Namath - He sucked before and after the injuries.
2 . Steve Young - If he were truely an All Time great the Niners would have won more than 1 SB.
3. Troy Aikman - Good but how good? Had an awesome team around him.
4. Brett Favre - The media darling who became a God after winning a SB.
5. John Elway - Didnt win a SB till he was no longer the corner piece.
6. Michael Irvin - Was a key guy to the Cowboys SBs but only had 750 catches for his career. Probably why he didnt make the HoF on first try.
7. Have many more but dont feel like typing them all.
Now.
1. Tom Brady - Good but the Pats defense carried those SB teams. He showed up against Carolina finally in the only SB he deserved the MVP but didnt get it. I think his hype is wearing off somewhat.
2. Michael Vick - How is this guy still starting? Tell him to hit the weight room and make him a WR or RB already.
3. Brett Favre - Has choked in his last few playoff trips but still is a God.
4. Ray Lewis - After the Goose retired he has been average.
5. Tedy Bruschi - Average player blown up by the media.
6. Brian Urlacher - Same as Ray Lewis. Was good when Big Ted Washington was clogging up the middle but just average after.
7. Plenty more but I dont think anyone wants to read a single post all day .
AdamJT13 said:I think it's the exact opposite these days. Roy gets far too much criticism for his so-called "blown coverages and being out of place" when it's not even the case. And forget the big hits, he doesn't get nearly enough credit for being the league's best playmaking safety in all facets of the game -- against the pass, against the run, as a blitzer and as a turnover-causing/receiver-intimidating hitter.
The most overrated safety is Bob Sanders, who was a Pro Bowl starter AND made first-team All-Pro despite being almost a complete ZERO as a playmaker.
MichaelWinicki said:Namath was the first QB ever to throw for over 4,000 yards.
Aikman was one of the most accurate QB's I've ever seen. He might have been the most accurate medium-route QB ever. Plus he was terrific at reading coverages.
Farve has put up some terrific numbers. I can't imagine the Packers having the record they did without him being the QB.
750 catches isn't mincemeat. He had the equivalent of what 10 full seasons? Injuries cut the others short. That's 75 balls a season. Not shabby PLUS he never had a terrific receiving partner like Rice often did.
Slyster said:Then
2 . Steve Young - If he were truely an All Time great the Niners would have won more than 1 SB.
3. Troy Aikman - Good but how good? Had an awesome team around him.
4. Brett Favre - The media darling who became a God after winning a SB.
5. John Elway - Didnt win a SB till he was no longer the corner piece.
6. Michael Irvin - Was a key guy to the Cowboys SBs but only had 750 catches for his career. Probably why he didnt make the HoF on first try.
Now.
1. Tom Brady - Good but the Pats defense carried those SB teams. He showed up against Carolina finally in the only SB he deserved the MVP but didnt get it. I think his hype is wearing off somewhat.
2. Michael Vick - How is this guy still starting? Tell him to hit the weight room and make him a WR or RB already.
3. Brett Favre - Has choked in his last few playoff trips but still is a God.
5. Tedy Bruschi - Average player blown up by the media.
YoMick said:Just thought I would chime in here on some in this list.
Then
2 . Steve Young - If he were truely an All Time great the Niners would have won more than 1 SB. Yes as I mentioned he was given one by us. And someone mentioned that he needed probowlers at every position and we STILL ALMOST came back to win that game.
3. Troy Aikman - Good but how good? Had an awesome team around him.
He did have an awesome team around him. But a QB that is accurate and makes good decisions gets extra points... not on the "most overrated" list
4. Brett Favre - The media darling who became a God after winning a SB.
He is a great thrower and scrambler and playmaker for a QB... but his poor decision making put his on the list for me... and now he wants to get better players on the team... will he throw less INT's with a better D-Lineman? uh, no!
5. John Elway - Didnt win a SB till he was no longer the corner piece. Something about going 3 times and then going and winning 2x and being a major part of atleast ONE SB run Victory and the NEVER give up til I get one attitude takes him off the list for me.
6. Michael Irvin - Was a key guy to the Cowboys SBs but only had 750 catches for his career. Probably why he didnt make the HoF on first try.
If they did not have Emmitt and Harper and just went to one WR like many other QB/Teams do he would have easily gone over a 1,000 catches IMO.
Now.
1. Tom Brady - Good but the Pats defense carried those SB teams. He showed up against Carolina finally in the only SB he deserved the MVP but didnt get it. I think his hype is wearing off somewhat. His coolness and decision making makes it so I cant see him on this list. No matter what... he led team to 3 SB wins and made minimal mistakes and gave his team a chance to win at the end of each SB. Instead of someone like McNabb that throws 3 INTS in the Sb.
2. Michael Vick - How is this guy still starting? Tell him to hit the weight room and make him a WR or RB already. He should be WR or DB or KR.
5. Tedy Bruschi - Average player blown up by the media. I dont know.. .the guy is always around the ball and makes BIG plays. I dont see him on this list.
Slyster said:I see where you are coming from on some of these but I disagree big time on Tom Brady. He is cool because he rarely has to worry about pressure. When teams finally get pressure on him he looks like David Carr. The hard part is getting to him. The blocking scheme they use is very good and they flood the defense with alot of underneathe routes where one is always open.
I guess you a reffering to 98 when Elway had a decent game againt the Falcons? As far as I can tell the offense only had two TDs ( 1 passing and 1 running both by Elway ) but they scored 34 points. Might be wrong about that though.