Movie: Concussion

[joseephuss]

I agree same here i remember seeing Aikman sitting on the bench just sniffing that smelling salt and it wouldnt even do anything for him in some cases. I remember one time had to have been a monday night game becaue Madden was commenting how he wasnt even reacting to the smelling salt.

I do blame the NFL for trying to hide and then discredit the study of the dr. In the movie it shows the start of his speech he gave to the committee and he says he knows its a violent game and thwere are going to be these cases, but if the effects would have been made public sooner, maybe these families wouldve had time to understand and maybe prevent these players from committing suicide. the players he's talking bout is Duerson and a couple of ex steeler players.

Aikman retired before Madden moved to MNF.

 

[LatinMind]

Aikman retired before Madden moved to MNF.

Thats right then it had to be with Fox when he was with Summerall

 

[Doc50]

i wondered the same thing and just reading and looking stuff up it seems like its pretty accurate.

It's difficult to know how accurate the individual encounters are, and what was actually said and done.

From a technical perspective, the movie is in error by its portrayal of CTE as a new condition that Dr. Omalu discovered. It was actually characterized and named decades earlier. However, it was not specifically studied in football players until the efforts that were outlined in the film.

The bigger issue includes involvement of children in any contact sport, and whether this initiates a process that leads to any neurological damage over time. Soccer, hockey, baseball, basketball, boxing, motor racing, gymnastics, cheerleading -- virtually any risk of concussion-related injury may be related to long-term pathology.

Golf and tennis are looking fairly safe, though there's always the risk of catching affluenza at the country club.

 

[Reality]

It's difficult to know how accurate the individual encounters are, and what was actually said and done.

From a technical perspective, the movie is in error by its portrayal of CTE as a new condition that Dr. Omalu discovered. It was actually characterized and named decades earlier. However, it was not specifically studied in football players until the efforts that were outlined in the film.

The bigger issue includes involvement of children in any contact sport, and whether this initiates a process that leads to any neurological damage over time. Soccer, hockey, baseball, basketball, boxing, motor racing, gymnastics, cheerleading -- virtually any risk of concussion-related injury may be related to long-term pathology.

Golf and tennis are looking fairly safe, though there's always the risk of catching affluenza at the country club.

I don't know .. golf can be dangerous I remember playing when I was a teenager at a small country club who had a lot of old retired guys playing regularly who seemed to either enjoy target practice toward younger players or they had some really, really bad slices

 

[Doc50]

I don't know .. golf can be dangerous I remember playing when I was a teenager at a small country club who had a lot of old retired guys playing regularly who seemed to either enjoy target practice toward younger players or they had some really, really bad slices

The old guys aren't very long, but they're usually accurate. I think they may have been targeting you; therefore, it's not paranoia.

 

[Plankton]

Keep in mind that the NFLPA is complicit in "hiding" the issues as well. They had a seat at the table with the NFL, and did nothing to advance the cause of their players facing this issue.

 

[lostar2009]

It is about maximizing exposure. Why go against Star Wars which did 150m that weekend compared to 10m for Concussion. With only 33m in total box office that means hardly anyone saw it and for a Will Smith film that is a huge letdown.

If it opened on the weekend of Dec 11th then it may have been the #1 movie and would have got a lot more press.

The movie did get press and it was discuss. A movie like concussion wasnt meant to be a block buster.

 

[joseephuss]

It's difficult to know how accurate the individual encounters are, and what was actually said and done.

From a technical perspective, the movie is in error by its portrayal of CTE as a new condition that Dr. Omalu discovered. It was actually characterized and named decades earlier. However, it was not specifically studied in football players until the efforts that were outlined in the film.

The bigger issue includes involvement of children in any contact sport, and whether this initiates a process that leads to any neurological damage over time. Soccer, hockey, baseball, basketball, boxing, motor racing, gymnastics, cheerleading -- virtually any risk of concussion-related injury may be related to long-term pathology.

Golf and tennis are looking fairly safe, though there's always the risk of catching affluenza at the country club.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/opinions/omalu-discovery-of-cte-football-concussions/

Editor's note: Dr. Bennet Omalu, chief medical examiner of San Joaquin County, California, is an associate clinical professor of pathology at the University of California, Davis. His story is told in the new movie, "Concussion." The opinions expressed in this commentary are his.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/opinions/omalu-discovery-of-cte-football-concussions/
Concussions and NFL: How the name CTE came about
By Bennet Omalu

(CNN)When I read Mike Webster's file before I began his autopsy, I knew he was more than a 50-year-old heart attack victim. His file and the television reports of the death of the former Pittsburgh Steelers center described a long, steep fall into bizarre behavior. I suspected he suffered from some sort of brain disorder.

The potential diagnoses on my mind were post-traumatic encephalopathy (encephalopathy means brain disease, damage, or malfunction), Alzheimer's disease, dementia pugilistica, aka punch drunk syndrome, and/or schizophrenia.

At this time there was no disease that I was aware of that was called chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE. Dementia pugilistica was unlikely since he was not a boxer. Schizophrenia was unlikely since he did not have any diagnosis of that disease in the extensive pre-mortem clinical workup that he had. Alzheimer's disease was less likely given his age.

Post-traumatic encephalopathy was about the only remaining diagnosis I had in mind while I performed the autopsy and considered the case. Based on what I knew about Webster's career and his post-football behavior, I expected to see the residual damages of recurrent contusions and necrosis (death of body tissue), and even atrophy of a lobe in his brain, which would be characteristic of post-traumatic encephalopathy.

The story of the discovery of Webster's brain disorder is worth telling, not only because of the upcoming release of the film "Concussion," but also because some detractors have raised questions that I believe are unjustified.

 

[Nightman]

The movie did get press and it was discuss. A movie like concussion wasnt meant to be a block buster.

Every movie is supposed to make money, especially Will Smith movies.

Just saying the producers picked the worst time to release the film.

 

[Doc50]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/opinions/omalu-discovery-of-cte-football-concussions/

Editor's note: Dr. Bennet Omalu, chief medical examiner of San Joaquin County, California, is an associate clinical professor of pathology at the University of California, Davis. His story is told in the new movie, "Concussion." The opinions expressed in this commentary are his.
Concussions and NFL: How the name CTE came about
By Bennet Omalu

(CNN)When I read Mike Webster's file before I began his autopsy, I knew he was more than a 50-year-old heart attack victim. His file and the television reports of the death of the former Pittsburgh Steelers center described a long, steep fall into bizarre behavior. I suspected he suffered from some sort of brain disorder.

The potential diagnoses on my mind were post-traumatic encephalopathy (encephalopathy means brain disease, damage, or malfunction), Alzheimer's disease, dementia pugilistica, aka punch drunk syndrome, and/or schizophrenia.

At this time there was no disease that I was aware of that was called chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE. Dementia pugilistica was unlikely since he was not a boxer. Schizophrenia was unlikely since he did not have any diagnosis of that disease in the extensive pre-mortem clinical workup that he had. Alzheimer's disease was less likely given his age.

Post-traumatic encephalopathy was about the only remaining diagnosis I had in mind while I performed the autopsy and considered the case. Based on what I knew about Webster's career and his post-football behavior, I expected to see the residual damages of recurrent contusions and necrosis (death of body tissue), and even atrophy of a lobe in his brain, which would be characteristic of post-traumatic encephalopathy.

The story of the discovery of Webster's brain disorder is worth telling, not only because of the upcoming release of the film "Concussion," but also because some detractors have raised questions that I believe are unjustified.

Dr. Omalu has a sizable ego, and he wants credit for more than he deserves.

 

[joseephuss]

Dr. Omalu has a sizable ego, and he wants credit for more than he deserves.

Doesn't that apply to all doctors?

 

[LatinMind]

This movie is starting to gain wind in the media. good

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...fficial-says-three-league-members-tried-do-so

 

[Doc50]

Doesn't that apply to all doctors?

No. Some of us are normal people.

 

[jrumann59]

I am of the mindset many here have echoed. When you have to put on "pads" and helmets in the early days of the sport common sense would tell you that there is some level of harm in the sport hence the extra padding and helmets. I think some of it is how litigious society has become and really how most of the the 80 and 90s players were "dumb" with their money and wanted one more turn at the trough. While I do believe that the NFL and NFLPA are complicit, I still think the players have to take responsibility for the brunt of it. We live in a society where lawnmowers have warning stickers that say, "Do not use to trim hedges", and coffee cups from McDonalds say, "Warning hot liquid", etc

 

[TheCount]

I'm in this camp. I don't feel great about thatbut last I checked, we have the freedoms to make choices to what we do for a living. I roughnecked in high school and witnessed 2 deaths and several more life altering injuries. Everyone around us knew what we were in for with no formal training or education. I did it for what was big coin and got out of it as soon as I had enough $$ to get a degree to find something that worked for my lifestyle.
We all have choices to evaluate the risk vs reward.

To make a decision about whether you're willing to accept the risks, it's kind of important to know what the risks are, no?

This isn't even a choice about being willing to live with torn ligaments and broke bones, this is a disease that might lead someone to be consumed with thoughts of suicide and fall to dementia at an early age.