Murray Had 1 Good Year

[Doomsday101]

Murray had the benefit of a superior O-line and still left a ton of yards on the field by fumbling the ball or getting caught from behind. These are record of fact, not bad mouthing. But hey if the truth hurts then so be it... or in your case, butt hurt.

Truth evidently you would know the truth if it staring you in the face. yeah anyone can rush for 1,800 yards you don't have a fricken clue do you. As for your butt hurt comment I can deal with Murray leaving dealing with stupid people is much harder.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't know how good DMC will be. I'm in wait and see mode just like the rest of us but I'm not going to knob gobble about Murray when he was just a par RB before we got our great O-line.

Like I said, I am not here to ruin your fantasies..................carry on

 

[Plankton]

Yea, its hard for me to take anybody seriously that starts comparing Murray's stats to freaking McFadden...................I am laughing too hard to type a response usually.

Besides, if McFadden was so good why was he just sitting out there in free agency and decided to sign for peanuts? Spags said its basically a "free look" since he got 0 guaranteed money. When was the last time a decent free agent signed a contract with 0 guaranteed money? The only players that do that are scrubs and busts that nobody wants on their roster and will give them a look if they have absolutely nothing else in the cupboard.

Murray on the other hand got $8 million a season.......................so please stop trying to compare these two running backs because its laughable.

The tear down of DeMarco Murray has been in full effect for a while. He has been killed for everything from his fumbling to his durability to his lack of vision.

With all of the areas that he supposedly is deficient in, his 2014 season ranks as one of the greatest achievements of all time. /tongueplantedfirmlyincheek

I liked Murray - hated his fumbles, but liked his determination and production. I was in favor of bringing him back for no more than 3 years/18 million. For anything more than that, I think it would have been a bad contract. I applaud the Cowboys for holding the line on the deal.

With that in mind, I won't rip Murray going out the door, and dog him as a player. I wish him nothing but failure. As for the Cowboys, I think that they severely underestimated Murray's contributions by only adding Darren McFadden. Between McFadden and Ryan Williams, they make Murray look like Walter Payton in comparison in terms of durability, and I wouldn't trust Joseph Randle to be responsible or smart enough to hold down the starting job.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The tear down of DeMarco Murray has been in full effect for a while. He has been killed for everything from his fumbling to his durability to his lack of vision.

With all of the areas that he supposedly is deficient in, his 2014 season ranks as one of the greatest achievements of all time. /tongueplantedfirmlyincheek

I liked Murray - hated his fumbles, but liked his determination and production. I was in favor of bringing him back for no more than 3 years/18 million. For anything more than that, I think it would have been a bad contract. I applaud the Cowboys for holding the line on the deal.

With that in mind, I won't rip Murray going out the door, and dog him as a player. I wish him nothing but failure. As for the Cowboys, I think that they severely underestimated Murray's contributions by only adding Darren McFadden. Between McFadden and Ryan Williams, they make Murray look like Walter Payton in comparison in terms of durability, and I wouldn't trust Joseph Randle to be responsible or smart enough to hold down the starting job.

Great post.

Look, I agree with not wanting to pay a RB $8 million dollars and letting Murray walk. But what I don't agree with is replacing him with scrubs like McFadden and Randle and then telling me the running game is going to be even better than last year.

Thankfully the team sees it the same way after listening to Broaddus and Dennis talk about "trade rumors" for a RB that can be a bellcow. (not AP)

 

[iceberg]

I didn't even realize they still allowed the onholy midgets to dance around in Australia. I thought they did away with that after the Great Midget Festival of 1993, where they melted down the statue of Matthew Flinders and stole the statue of his cat "Trim".

Could have knocked me over with a feather right there Ice.

Not a well known thing, no. But im surprised you knew of the festival.

 

[Plankton]

Hmmm...I wonder who they are targeting (if true). Who the hell is left?

Though he hasn't been a bastion of durability or productivity the last two years, I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Doug Martin. It probably wouldn't cost much in a trade to bring him on board, and he's in the last year of his rookie deal. He'll never be more motivated to do well.

 

[JoeKing]

Truth evidently you would know the truth if it staring you in the face. yeah anyone can rush for 1,800 yards you don't have a fricken clue do you. As for your butt hurt comment I can deal with Murray leaving dealing with stupid people is much harder.

Damn bro, that butt hurt has really got a hold on you. All I've said about Murray is he was slow and fumbled, I did not fabricate lies. Every run of that 1,800 yards started with a superior O-line blasting holes for Murray to run through. That's not bad mouthing Murray nor is it a lie. What part of all that you have issue with is your issue because the facts are on my side.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Though he hasn't been a bastion of durability or productivity the last two years, I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Doug Martin. It probably wouldn't cost much in a trade to bring him on board, and he's in the last year of his rookie deal. He'll never be more motivated to do well.

Agreed.........................Doug Martin could be a target or Lamar Miller if I was just guessing at this point.

 

[JoeKing]

Like I said, I am not here to ruin your fantasies..................carry on

Oh but I insist. Make a case how Murray was any better than DMC before last season. Decline because you can't make the case, not out of any faux concern for me.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Oh but I insist. Make a case how Murray was any better than DMC before last season. Decline because you can't make the case, not out of any faux concern for me.

Murray was way better than McFadden before last season..............McFadden has the 2nd lowest YPC in the league over the past 3 seasons.

Oh yea, that's right, you don't believe in numbers...............let me know how the meeting of the flat Earth society goes tonight....................peace.

 

[JoeKing]

Murray was way better than McFadden before last season..............McFadden has the 2nd lowest YPC in the league over the past 3 seasons.

Oh yea, that's right, you don't believe in numbers...............let me know how the meeting of the flat Earth society goes tonight....................peace.

I don't even know what that means... flat earth BS. So since you can't present a case to support your BS point, have a good day.

 

[Wezsh0T]

Joseph Randle - a back that had more YPC than Demarco in 2014, albeit with far fewer carries. Can he maintain a better pace than Murray with 20-25 carries a game. No one knows. But Randle was much improved from 2013 to 2014. That was crystal clear in watching film.

Randle did look pretty good in his limited appearances last year. However, the YPC might not be a great indicator of how he would do as a workhorse back. I remember that once upon a time, Troy Hambrick had a higher YPC than Emmitt Smith. How'd that turn out the next year? At least we do have more than one option at RB. I think Ryan Williams can be pretty good. Maybe McFadden will surprise.

It will be an interesting preseason in this regard.

 

[Risen Star]

DeMarco Murray will end his tenure with the Eagles hated in the city of Philadelphia. It's already deposited and cleared at the bank.

I'm not going spin for the team. I find it funny that I was "trolling" these years when I said Murray was not a top tier RB. Now it seems like it's the consensus opinion. I wonder what's changed?

He's a good back. A very well rounded back. But he's been fragile over his career, had a ton of mileage put on him last year and the Eagles offense simply won't put him in a position to ever duplicate what he did in Dallas. That contract will never be justified.

If the Cowboys' run game fails them this year, the melvins will line up to announce what a mistake it was to let Murray go. Not true. That was a fiscally sound decision with years of data to back up the thought that you do not pay big money over multiple years for a RB coming off of so much of a workload. You also never pay a player to the level of his one career year. He's been in the league 4 years. You pay him like he's the player in that one year. I'll say he's the guy from the other 3.

Letting go of Murray - Smart. Hedging your bet on Darren McFadden and this collection of unheralded backs as his replacement - not so smart. Or, at the very least, extremely risky.

 

[TwentyOne]

One day Murray may be a HOFer. Maybe 2015 was his breakout year for a historical career. Perhaps he will have his # retired by the Philadelphia Eagles after leading them to their first of multiple SuperBowls where he will be win multiple SuperBowl MVPs. Seriously. Crazier things have happened in sports.

However, as of today, May 14, 2015, Demarco Murray has had 1 really good professional NFL year.

365 days ago, Murray was considered an average back - perhaps slightly above average - but a back that also had durability issues.

In 2014 Murray lead the league in yards. Although some important stats such as YPC and broken tackle average dropped significantly in the last 1/4 of the season.

Now we currently have:

Joseph Randle - a back that had more YPC than Demarco in 2014, albeit with far fewer carries. Can he maintain a better pace than Murray with 20-25 carries a game. No one knows. But Randle was much improved from 2013 to 2014. That was crystal clear in watching film.

Darren McFadden - a back who also had 1 good year (2011) before injury cut it short. Similar power runner as Murray. Similar fumble issues. Faster back with more breakaway speed. But like Murray 365 days ago, much concern about his durability. Can McFadden duplicate 2011? No reason to believe he magically will, but if his body is in as good of shape as Murray, no real logical argument to why he can't either.

Ryan Williams - signed multi year deal after being on PS and turning down interests from other teams. Not your typical PS back. Great pedigree. Low/no mileage. It's probably his last shot at rebooting his career. Physically no reason to believe he can't. But that's hardly a reason to believe he will either.

Dunbar - not an every down back so not in this discussion other than to say Dunbar could potentially shoulder more of the load than he did last year - which would not be difficult given that he only saw the field 5 or so plays a game.

Free Agent Possibilities:

Chris Johnson - former All-Pro that ran pretty good last year for the Jets.
Knowshon Moreno - another accomplished back that could be an option.

Overall: as far as "on-the-field" ability and injury risk/reward scenarios, I think the loss of Murray has a better chance than not of being made up for in some way - 1 back or multiple back performances.

Was there some Murray off-the-field intangibles - i.e. leadership or motivator that made Dallas better and cannot be replaced? Hard to know. It's always possible.

But in totality, I am not as worried as most. Why? Simply because, as of right now, Murray is still an NFL back that had ONE GOOD YEAR.

Murray had his best season with the best offenive line in football.

Romo had his best season with the best offensive line in football and 8 seks in average to find receivers.

Both players were far from being called great at their position. Now they are.

Dont overhype players! They both are good but none of them is great. Give them a good supporting cast so they can maximize their talent. In a capped NFL it's so much more about the whole roster and not one player.

We are on the right track. Keep the faith!

 

[jnday]

DeMarco Murray will end his tenure with the Eagles hated in the city of Philadelphia. It's already deposited and cleared at the bank.

I'm not going spin for the team. I find it funny that I was "trolling" these years when I said Murray was not a top tier RB. Now it seems like it's the consensus opinion. I wonder what's changed?

He's a good back. A very well rounded back. But he's been fragile over his career, had a ton of mileage put on him last year and the Eagles offense simply won't put him in a position to ever duplicate what he did in Dallas. That contract will never be justified.

If the Cowboys' run game fails them this year, the melvins will line up to announce what a mistake it was to let Murray go. Not true. That was a fiscally sound decision with years of data to back up the thought that you do not pay big money over multiple years for a RB coming off of so much of a workload. You also never pay a player to the level of his one career year. He's been in the league 4 years. You pay him like he's the player in that one year. I'll say he's the guy from the other 3.

Letting go of Murray - Smart. Hedging your bet on Darren McFadden and this collection of unheralded backs as his replacement - not so smart. Or, at the very least, extremely risky.

You deserve twice as many "likes" as you recieve. You know that don't you?

 

[Risen Star]

You deserve twice as many "likes" as you recieve. You know that don't you?

I do feel like I should have more.

 

[dallasdave]

You deserve twice as many "likes" as you recieve. You know that don't you?

Risen Star said: ↑
DeMarco Murray will end his tenure with the Eagles hated in the city of Philadelphia. It's already deposited and cleared at the bank.

I'm not going spin for the team. I find it funny that I was "trolling" these years when I said Murray was not a top tier RB. Now it seems like it's the consensus opinion. I wonder what's changed?

He's a good back. A very well rounded back. But he's been fragile over his career, had a ton of mileage put on him last year and the Eagles offense simply won't put him in a position to ever duplicate what he did in Dallas. That contract will never be justified.

If the Cowboys' run game fails them this year, the melvins will line up to announce what a mistake it was to let Murray go. Not true. That was a fiscally sound decision with years of data to back up the thought that you do not pay big money over multiple years for a RB coming off of so much of a workload. You also never pay a player to the level of his one career year. He's been in the league 4 years. You pay him like he's the player in that one year. I'll say he's the guy from the other 3.

Letting go of Murray - Smart. Hedging your bet on Darren McFadden and this collection of unheralded backs as his replacement - not so smart. Or, at the very least, extremely risky.You deserve twice as many "likes" as you recieve. You know that don't you?
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What jdday said, yes Risen does deserve twice as many likes as he receives. The voice of reason and tells it like it is whether you like or not. And I love that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Thankfully the team sees it the same way after listening to Broaddus and Dennis talk about "trade rumors" for a RB that can be a bellcow. (not AP)

If they were actually speaking the truth on what the team is thinking.

 

[Nightman]

You deserve twice as many "likes" as you recieve. You know that don't you?

Just because Risen speaks with conviction it doesn't make anything he says the truth.

Murray is an outstanding back and our team is a lot worse than last year at the RB position.

Is he fragile or does he have a ton of mileage????

He isn't fragile or a one year wonder. He has started 37 of the last 39 games and gained over 5700 yards for Dallas.

5700 yards is one heckuva a contract year.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

He had 1 good year that just so happened to be a contract year. Go figure! Who knows if he will repeat it ever.