Murray Had 1 Good Year

[plasticman]

In this century, that is, since 2000, only ten other RB's have had more yards from scrimmage in their first 4 years.

Understand?

There is an extremely short list of RB's that have produced more in the first 4 years of their career.

Murray ran for more than 700 yards in his first 7 starts as a rookie.

Murray produced over a 1000 yards of offense three of his first four years. The only year that he didn't, the Cowboys started that season with 5 offensive linemen that never played their position for the Cowboys.

Murray's fumble ratio per carries is less than half of Emmitt's in his first four years.

Murray is the Cowboy's 3rd leading receiver during the span of his career.

He has produced more yardage in his first 4 years than:

Jamaal Charles
Marshawn Lynch
Alfred Morris
Shawn Alexander
LeSean McCoy
Maurice Jones Drew
Rashard Mendenhall.

Only two other RB's in Cowboys history produced more in their first four seasons. They are both in the Hall of Fame.

Perhaps it had to be done, losing him......perhaps.....but don't delude yourself.

One good season? Not even a good guess......which it obviously was.

 

[Nightman]

In this century, that is, since 2000, only ten other RB's have had more yards from scrimmage in their first 4 years.

Understand?

There is an extremely short list of RB's that have produced more in the first 4 years of their career.

Murray ran for more than 700 yards in his first 7 starts as a rookie.

Murray produced over a 1000 yards of offense three of his first four years. The only year that he didn't, the Cowboys started that season with 5 offensive linemen that never played their position for the Cowboys.

Murray's fumble ratio per carries is less than half of Emmitt's in his first four years.

Murray is the Cowboy's 3rd leading receiver during the span of his career.

He has produced more yardage in his first 4 years than:

Jamaal Charles
Marshawn Lynch
Alfred Morris
Shawn Alexander
LeSean McCoy
Maurice Jones Drew
Rashard Mendenhall.

Only two other RB's in Cowboys history produced more in their first four seasons. They are both in the Hall of Fame.

Perhaps it had to be done, losing him......perhaps.....but don't delude yourself.

One good season? Not even a good guess......which it obviously was.

Thanks for doing that research.

I just wish people would be honest about Murray.

All this he is fragile, left too many yards on the field, is unathletic, it's just silly.

He was just voted AP Offensive Player of the Year.

We can disagree about whether or not he is worth what he got from Philly, but that is a different talk.

 

[crashintonickdm]

eagles don't win super bowls. they are a meager team that has fans that act like they're a successful team.

move along, nothing to see here.

 

[jnday]

I do feel like I should have more.

There is more on the way.

 

[windjc]

I do feel like I should have more.

What specifically would you have had the front office do? Move up in the draft? Draft someone else? Who?

Go after AP? Go after someone else? What was the ideal plan with all things begin considered iyo?

 

[windjc]

In this century, that is, since 2000, only ten other RB's have had more yards from scrimmage in their first 4 years.

Understand?

There is an extremely short list of RB's that have produced more in the first 4 years of their career.

Murray ran for more than 700 yards in his first 7 starts as a rookie.

Murray produced over a 1000 yards of offense three of his first four years. The only year that he didn't, the Cowboys started that season with 5 offensive linemen that never played their position for the Cowboys.

Murray's fumble ratio per carries is less than half of Emmitt's in his first four years.

Murray is the Cowboy's 3rd leading receiver during the span of his career.

He has produced more yardage in his first 4 years than:

Jamaal Charles
Marshawn Lynch
Alfred Morris
Shawn Alexander
LeSean McCoy
Maurice Jones Drew
Rashard Mendenhall.

Only two other RB's in Cowboys history produced more in their first four seasons. They are both in the Hall of Fame.

Perhaps it had to be done, losing him......perhaps.....but don't delude yourself.

One good season? Not even a good guess......which it obviously was.

This is a pretty excellent argument for Murray. Good post. Who were the other 10 RBs? How'd they do year 5-8?

 

[Ender]

What made the offense in 2014 more than anything was the balance. What made it consistent was the predictability brought by the offensive line.

But, as much as yards before contact that seem to be the only leg to stand on for some, Murray moved the pile forward nearly always. For years we've watched one yard and a cloud of dust from every running back since Barber. Run into a pile of bodies and fall down.

Murray found a hole and get through, found a huge hole and got through, but didn't cave at the first contact.

There are some suggesting this team goes back to 8-8. That seems drastic, but with the RBBC Irvin is right. Teams will not sit on the pass and take that away and then the offense will have to attempt to catch lightning in a jar again this season.

What astounds me is all the people who were on board with a solid run game until this team got one and then allowed it to walk.

I just have a hard time agreeing with anyone who suggest that the solid run game we had just walked to Philly. The solid run game was built through the trenches and the oline. The cowboys, barring injury, potentially have a better oline than last year. Did the Eagles sign Smith, Fredrick, and Martin as well? Because I sure they had a just as much to do with the improved run game as Murray.

 

[Beast_from_East]

DeMarco Murray will end his tenure with the Eagles hated in the city of Philadelphia. It's already deposited and cleared at the bank.

I'm not going spin for the team. I find it funny that I was "trolling" these years when I said Murray was not a top tier RB. Now it seems like it's the consensus opinion. I wonder what's changed?

He's a good back. A very well rounded back. But he's been fragile over his career, had a ton of mileage put on him last year and the Eagles offense simply won't put him in a position to ever duplicate what he did in Dallas. That contract will never be justified.

If the Cowboys' run game fails them this year, the melvins will line up to announce what a mistake it was to let Murray go. Not true. That was a fiscally sound decision with years of data to back up the thought that you do not pay big money over multiple years for a RB coming off of so much of a workload. You also never pay a player to the level of his one career year. He's been in the league 4 years. You pay him like he's the player in that one year. I'll say he's the guy from the other 3.

Letting go of Murray - Smart. Hedging your bet on Darren McFadden and this collection of unheralded backs as his replacement - not so smart. Or, at the very least, extremely risky.

Exactly.................the issue most fans have is not in letting Murray walk, it is in the so-called replacements.

McFadden and Randle with a guy off the practice squad is not an acceptable replacement for the NFL Offensive Player of the Year.

 

[Gameover]

Murray had 1 all-time great year and 1 good year(2013).

 

[Beast_from_East]

If they were actually speaking the truth on what the team is thinking.

I don't think they are just going to make stuff up when they are doing the show from Valley Ranch..............if they say they hear "rumblings", I take them at their word.

That doesn't mean a trade will happen because it takes two to dance, but I doubt they would keep their jobs if they just made #$%^ up about the team.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Murray had 1 all-time great year and 1 good year(2013).

Compared to McFadden and Randle.............Murray looks like Walter Payton.

 

[JoeKing]

Compared to McFadden and Randle.............Murray looks like Walter Payton.

LOL Are you intentional making an exaggerated statement to make a point or do you really believe that. That's borderline lunacy to think Murray is that much better.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I just have a hard time agreeing with anyone who suggest that the solid run game we had just walked to Philly. The solid run game was built through the trenches and the oline. The cowboys, barring injury, potentially have a better oline than last year. Did the Eagles sign Smith, Fredrick, and Martin as well? Because I sure they had a just as much to do with the improved run game as Murray.

Potential means nothing until it becomes immediate history. Quincy Carter had potential. Kavika Pittman had potential.

But the ball did not run itself. And while there were openings for Murray, and at times you could drive a truck through, he still moved a pile of men tackling him and got yards after the contact without that line.

People are so quick to forget what this runnng game was about before last year. The line was part of it,. but Murray was an equal partner, if not the dominant one.

And none of the deniers can guarantee any of these bench warmers can accomplish half of what he did singularly or in toto.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not a well known thing, no. But im surprised you knew of the festival.

LOL....


Hey, my head is filled with all sorts of useless information!

 

[Ender]

Potential means nothing until it becomes immediate history. Quincy Carter had potential. Kavika Pittman had potential.

But the ball did not run itself. And while there were openings for Murray, and at times you could drive a truck through, he still moved a pile of men tackling him and got yards after the contact without that line.

People are so quick to forget what this runnng game was about before last year. The line was part of it,. but Murray was an equal partner, if not the dominant one.

And none of the deniers can guarantee any of these bench warmers can accomplish half of what he did singularly or in toto.

You might want save that signature for the end of next season. Also, I wont agree with anyone who suggest that anyone back not names Adrian plays the dominant role in a rushing attack in the modern day NFL. Demarco was an oft injured player, who had a good year two years ago, and a great year last year. His two best years came when we started drafting and rebuilding the O-line. And no ones denying the fact that he's a good players, I just dont agree with the people who act like we just lost Tony Dorset or something. Or, suggest in anyway, that Demarco by himself, made this offense great. He was a piece of the puzzle, and maybe the easiest piece to replace.

Lastly, one common thing i notice, is the people who are whining about not re-signing Demarco to that ridiculous contract, are the same people who always, every year since I've been posting here, complaining about something, or finding a reason to complain all off season. That why you have that picture in your signature now, because you were probably complaining then.

Why would someone here even listen to your opinion, or the opinion of anyone complain about Demarco, if in-fact, they were the same people down on this team after last year? If Demoarco was so great, why did you pick the Cowboys to go 5-11? Please explain that to me. So you thought the team would be terrible with Demarco last year, but think they are going to be just as terrible without Demarco this year? Makes no sense.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Murray had 1 all-time great year and 1 good year(2013).

Everyone wants to ignore 2013 like it was an average season. 1470+ yards from scrimmage and 10 total TDs is not run of the mill production. Had he put up the same number last year, still would have ranked 7th in yards and tied for 6th in TDs for RBs.

 

[JoeKing]

Everyone wants to ignore 2013 like it was an average season. 1470+ yards from scrimmage and 10 total TDs is not run of the mill production. Had he put up the same number last year, still would have ranked 7th in yards and tied for 6th in TDs for RBs.

If you want to knob gobble on and on about Murray there is an appropriate place you can do that these days.... an Eagles forum. Go there and show all the praise you want for him. But please understand this, the man is dead in Dallas. We are moving forward without him. At this point, whining about Murray being gone accomplishes nothing. He is the past so leave the past in the past and move on. If it was a bad decision to let him go, okay then we will find out and then fix it. But for goodness sakes, let's be forward thinkers. It's clear that many folks have no confidence with our current RBs but the FO has made it clear they do not share in that sentiment. So let's wait and see what we have before we give up on the current RB's.

 

[TwoDeep3]

You might want save that signature for the end of next season. Also, I wont agree with anyone who suggest that anyone back not names Adrian plays the dominant role in a rushing attack in the modern day NFL. Demarco was an oft injured player, who had a good year two years ago, and a great year last year. His two best years came when we started drafting and rebuilding the O-line. And no ones denying the fact that he's a good players, I just dont agree with the people who act like we just lost Tony Dorset or something. Or, suggest in anyway, that Demarco by himself, made this offense great. He was a piece of the puzzle, and maybe the easiest piece to replace.

Lastly, one common thing i notice, is the people who are whining about not re-signing Demarco to that ridiculous contract, are the same people who always, every year since I've been posting here, complaining about something, or finding a reason to complain all off season. That why you have that picture in your signature now, because you were probably complaining then.

Why would someone here even listen to your opinion, or the opinion of anyone complain about Demarco, if in-fact, they were the same people down on this team after last year? If Demoarco was so great, why did you pick the Cowboys to go 5-11? Please explain that to me. So you thought the team would be terrible with Demarco last year, but think they are going to be just as terrible without Demarco this year? Makes no sense.

I have been speaking about the run game protecting the defense and Romo for two years now. Seems you missed that.

Ball control protects a weak defense, and pass rush protects a weak defensive backfield. Been talking about that for a long time now.

But I also was thrilled they got Zach martin. I've been watching this team since game one. Not game one last year. Game one in 1960. I have never seen a player come into an offensive line and perform as he did. So your comments about what I thought seem amazing to me since I suppose you knew this line would do this.

That't ther brilliance of the hopeful fan. He can say 12-4 every year without reproach since none of you come back and admit you were wrong.

I did not l;ose a bet. I put this sig on because I stand behind what I say. If I'm wrong, I admit it. But to assume that means I'm always wrong is ridiculous. Murray was a special player, and I said that for years as well,

I'm just not certain why a team that finally put it together and had a consistent and balanced offense would move away from that.

But one thing about the hopeful fans here. They will insult anyone that doesn't agree with them. You included.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have been speaking about the run game protecting the defense and Romo for two years now. Seems you missed that.

Ball control protects a weak defense, and pass rush protects a weak defensive backfield. Been talking about that for a long time now.

But I also was thrilled they got Zach martin. I've been watching this team since game one. Not game one last year. Game one in 1960. I have never seen a player come into an offensive line and perform as he did. So your comments about what I thought seem amazing to me since I suppose you knew this line would do this.

That't ther brilliance of the hopeful fan. He can say 12-4 every year without reproach since none of you come back and admit you were wrong.

I did not l;ose a bet. I put this sig on because I stand behind what I say. If I'm wrong, I admit it. But to assume that means I'm always wrong is ridiculous. Murray was a special player, and I said that for years as well,

I'm just not certain why a team that finally put it together and had a consistent and balanced offense would move away from that.

But one thing about the hopeful fans here. They will insult anyone that doesn't agree with them. You included.

Ball control helps all defense, 90's defense was pretty darn good and even better when you had Emmitt running the ball keeping them on the sidelines fresh and ready to come in.

 

[Doomsday101]

As much as I would have liked to have kept Murray I understand fully the reason they did not want to pay out 8 mill. I think Murray is replaceable but the concern from myself and some others is who we have to replace Murray with? McFadden? Randle? Williams? or Dunbar? there is where some of us have concern. 2 guys who thus far have been bust and 2 JAGS.