my 2 cents on tucker..

[Portland Fanatic]

that's right, but if he doesn't send a limo to pick tucker up at the hotel there may be some hope.

LOL...indeed.

I can only imagine the feelings Rob has had the last few weeks...Jevon Kearse, then Strahan...WOW!

He's doing great!

 

[Verdict]

Parcells kept Tucker for a reason. He felt good enough about him that he did not keep any other O.T.'s on the roster. Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater. What is more of a concern to me at this point is depth. What do we do if Tucker/Pettitti goes down now?

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Parcells kept Tucker for a reason.

You're right....Vollers was getting blown up every single play, he had no choice. I started a thread during pre-season about how horrible Vollers was...two weeks later he was cut.

Tucker was the lesser of two evils...he has more physical skills then Vollers would ever have, but is an off-sides/missed assignment waiting to happen.

 

[brucem78]

It seems to me that Rob is a natural LT. I could see him being there for many years to come if he can keep his weight down. I seem to remember Parcells said that Rob reminded him of Fabini of the Jets but with better feet. Why not move Rob now (we can still use Campbell to help him), Find RT depth on the FA market or use Tucker. I know the chemistry would be hurt in the short term but in the long run (as in Dec. or Jan) we could be better off. I remember doing it with Nate Newton and Erik Williams in 1991. That's where we established the foundation of our OL for the 90's.

 

[Mike 1967]

that might work, but torrin has been practicing at both positions since early training camp while rob has been at rt only. i'm sure rob would be ok after some practice, but now you'd have two new tackles working to build chemistry with their line partners.

What is your thoughts/opinion on Larry Allen being moved to Left Tackle ?

Do you think that the organization is seriously considering this ?

Do you think that Allen could make the adjustment to the outside ?

The obvious concern to those of us (on the outside looking in) is that Allen does not have the speed or quickness to play on the outside.

 

[Hiero]

It seems to me that Rob is a natural LT. I could see him being there for many years to come if he can keep his weight down. I seem to remember Parcells said that Rob reminded him of Fabini of the Jets but with better feet. Why not move Rob now (we can still use Campbell to help him), Find RT depth on the FA market or use Tucker. I know the chemistry would be hurt in the short term but in the long run (as in Dec. or Jan) we could be better off. I remember doing it with Nate Newton and Erik Williams in 1991. That's where we established the foundation of our OL for the 90's.

ya i am starting to agree. I think when flozell comes back next season it will be as RT. he will definitely have lost a step or two in quickness and would be better suited as RT for the rest of his career.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Tucker was the lesser of two evils...he has more physical skills then Vollers would ever have, but is an off-sides/missed assignment waiting to happen.

That pretty much describes Flo as well................

We are gonna be altright.

 

[pittdawg]

What is your thoughts/opinion on Larry Allen being moved to Left Tackle ?

Do you think that the organization is seriously considering this ?

Do you think that Allen could make the adjustment to the outside ?

The obvious concern to those of us (on the outside looking in) is that Allen does not have the speed or quickness to play on the outside.

i have no knowledge of what's going on inside the organization. as far as allen playing either tackle, i just think that if that was a possibility the team would have tried that at least in pre-season by now.

 

[Mike 1967]

i have no knowledge of what's going on inside the organization. as far as allen playing either tackle, i just think that if that was a possibility the team would have tried that at least in pre-season by now.

Did you ever see this in any of the practices (LA at LT) ?

 

[Hiero]

i have no knowledge of what's going on inside the organization. as far as allen playing either tackle, i just think that if that was a possibility the team would have tried that at least in pre-season by now.

i agree, it seems very unlikely. allen is way too slow to play LT although I still think he could handle if it he was forced to. He is much better at LG and should provide some good help for Tucker.

 

[Eddie]

I have a feeling BP has considered it, but will keep it in his backpocket until it becomes the last thing we can do.

Let's give Tucker the benefit of the doubt. Don't start hollaring for his head after his first holding penalty.

Who is he going up against in Seattle?

 

[Hostile]

This is the best thread I have read on this forum in a long time. I love this kind of insight and open discussion. The limo comment was great.

 

[The Fonz]

I think at this stage and the way Flo has played the past games Tucker won't do worse

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I only have a few concerns about Tucker starting in Adams' spot. I don't think the drop off is as big as some are implying.

I don't think the matchup vs. Wistrom really presents as big of a challenge to Tucker as the crowd inside a noisy dome on the road does. Physically, he can handle Wistrom if he doesn't get late starts due to the noise or if a few false starts gets to his head.


The huge problem would be if Tucker or Pettiti are forced to miss even a single play. There's just nothing behind them.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

I have a feeling BP has considered it, but will keep it in his backpocket until it becomes the last thing we can do.

Let's give Tucker the benefit of the doubt. Don't start hollaring for his head after his first holding penalty.

Who is he going up against in Seattle?

Grant Wistrom = motor man.

 

[flashback]

He played LT exclusively for 5 years before the last 6 games at RT. I'd flop him to the left side in a heartbeat. You can't help Tucker and Petitti, and if we flop them, you could still help on Rob's man, and leave Tucker more or less on his own. Don't forget the left side is Bledsoe's blind side. What would you rather have, Tucker over there on his own most of the time, or Rob over there with help? Also, I think the run blocking might actually be a little better with Tucker and Rivera on the right.

Also, Flozell is 30. Not all that old for an OL, but when he comes back next year, he may want to finish his career on the right side anyway. He's certainly not going to be any faster at picking up those edge rushers coming back from a knee injury next year.

 

[Charles]

Great thread.

We've seen how our team responds to certain types of adversities.

This week it's the season ending injury to a starter and a key contributor.

It's nice to know that 2 of our primary back-ups have experience. Torrin and Gurode presence on the roster this week are invaluable. Gurode and Peterman can hold down the Guard spots should they decide to move LA or Rivera.

It's great to have depth. We've seen what injuries have done to this team in the past 10 seasons. I recall the Cowboys starting a Olineman right off the street in 2002.....I think Jeremy Mckinney.

Now we have quality depth at WR and experience depth on the Oline.

It's be interesting to see how the team responds. Good teams like the Eagles and Patriots can lose contributors like Law or Buckhalter but are good enough to stay in the race.

I think the next 2 games leading up to the bye week will again tell us alot about our team.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I don't think the dropoff between Tucker and Flow is dramatic, simply because I think Tucker can be adequate and Flo was playing barely above adequate. The bottom line is that Tucker lasted all the rounds of cuts in training camp, and Parcells cut Vollers to keep him. After rewatching the game, I don't think he played terrible when he filled this week either.

The biggest problem we have is depth, because we are in major trouble if Tucker or Pettiti have to miss time and we're resorting to Marc Colombo or someone caliber.

 

[junk]

Interesting thread. I, for one, hope I am dead wrong and the team doesn't miss a beat on offense (unlike some, I can handle being wrong on occasion).

I do find it extremely interesting that everyone and their brother was ready to write Tucker off as a worthless waste of space in preseason at RT, but suddenly don't feel he is a dropoff replacing Flozell at LT. Heck, some are even spinning this as a long term upgrade.

Just curious as to what is spawing this sudden flip flop. Eternal optimism?

I actually have also kind of liked Tucker as a RT prospect. I am not real thrilled with him as a LT. I don't see him as an upgrade and I see this as a significant hurdle for the Cowboys overcome.

Here's to hoping I am completely wrong and they don't miss a beat. Where is that kool-aid stand at anyway? It must be pretty busy.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I do find it extremely interesting that everyone and their brother was ready to write Tucker off as a worthless waste of space in preseason at RT, but suddenly don't feel he is a dropoff replacing Flozell at LT. Heck, some are even spinning this as a long term upgrade.

Just curious as to what is spawing this sudden flip flop. Eternal optimism?

Remember how losing Dat was going to be a monumental and irreplacable loss on the defense two weeks ago, because Bradie was deemed a 'POS' player after his first two years in the league?

Is it any more interesting than Tucker going from promising young player to worthless waste of space in his second year in the league to some?

The instant talent evaluators that Parcells commonly refer to abound on both sides of the coin. For some reason, the illogical ones on one side are the supposed "realists" and the illogical ones on the other side are the "head in the clouds optimists", but in the end they are both illogical. This is messageboard land, where players are either promising beams of light or POS's, and there is very little in between. And if you fall from one side to the other, heaven help you. You'll never get a fair evaluation for the rest of your career. Ask Bradie James.