My apologies, We are very fortunate!

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There has been much debate about QB's here lately and I've been right smack "DAB" in the middle of it. We've debated back up QB's and starting QB's, drafting QB's or signing FA QB's, using veteran QB's or developing young or inexperienced QB's. Well, after a few hours of research, and talking to a D1 coach and scout today, I have to admit I have been way off about some of my views and ideas. It would take up a whole page to discuss every single one of them, but here is the main point. The QB position has declined to a such a degree where there are not enough of them to put two or three good ones on every team in the NFL. College teams just aren't devolving them. These kids are either zone read QB's, or they are running the spread and not being taught how to read defenses anymore. I will let you smart guys teach us the ins and outs of why they are having such a hard time, but the bottom line is we should consider ourselves very lucky to have a good starting QB after Tony went down. It's almost impossible to have a good backup, or a third team guy who can play with success. Look at some of the guys who are starting, or looking at significant playing time in the NFL this year, and who teams are fighting to have right now. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trevor Simien, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Hill, Case Keenum, Blaine Gabbert, Geno Smith, Colt McCoy, Drew Stanton, Boykin, Schaub, Mallet, Henney, Shaun Hill, Tolzien, McGloin, Savage, Flowers, Nassib, Gradkowski,!!!! I could go on and on. It's a sad situation, and it's not going to get better any time soon.

With all that being said. Thank God we have been fortunate enough to wind up with who I think will end up being our QB of the future. This kid is the real deal and I believe he is going to be more like Russel Wilson than Choke McNabb. You can call it what you want, blind luck, great scouting, JJ intuition, I don't care. The bottom line is he is here, and from the talk of some very smart football guys, he's the real deal.
 

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There has been much debate about QB's here lately and I've been right smack "DAB" in the middle of it. We've debated back up QB's and starting QB's, drafting QB's or signing FA QB's, using veteran QB's or developing young or inexperienced QB's. Well, after a few hours of research, and talking to a D1 coach and scout today, I have to admit I have been way off about some of my views and ideas. It would take up a whole page to discuss every single one of them, but here is the main point. The QB position has declined to a such a degree where there are not enough of them to put two or three good ones on every team in the NFL. College teams just aren't devolving them. These kids are either zone read QB's, or they are running the spread and not being taught how to read defenses anymore. I will let you smart guys teach us the ins and outs of why they are having such a hard time, but the bottom line is we should consider ourselves very lucky to have a good starting QB after Tony went down. It's almost impossible to have a good backup, or a third team guy who can play with success. Look at some of the guys who are starting, or looking at significant playing time in the NFL this year, and who teams are fighting to have right now. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trevor Simien, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Hill, Case Keenum, Blaine Gabbert, Geno Smith, Colt McCoy, Drew Stanton, Boykin, Schaub, Mallet, Henney, Shaun Hill, Tolzien, McGloin, Savage, Flowers, Nassib, Gradkowski,!!!! I could go on and on. It's a sad situation, and it's not going to get better any time soon.

With all that being said. Thank God we have been fortunate enough to wind up with who I think will end up being our QB of the future. This kid is the real deal and I believe he is going to be more like Russel Wilson than Choke McNabb. You can call it what you want, blind luck, great scouting, JJ intuition, I don't care. The bottom line is he is here, and from the talk of some very smart football guys, he's the real deal.

If he does end up being what we all hope he is, that means next year's draft can finally fix the bloody defense!
 

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There has been much debate about QB's here lately and I've been right smack "DAB" in the middle of it. We've debated back up QB's and starting QB's, drafting QB's or signing FA QB's, using veteran QB's or developing young or inexperienced QB's. Well, after a few hours of research, and talking to a D1 coach and scout today, I have to admit I have been way off about some of my views and ideas. It would take up a whole page to discuss every single one of them, but here is the main point. The QB position has declined to a such a degree where there are not enough of them to put two or three good ones on every team in the NFL. College teams just aren't devolving them. These kids are either zone read QB's, or they are running the spread and not being taught how to read defenses anymore. I will let you smart guys teach us the ins and outs of why they are having such a hard time, but the bottom line is we should consider ourselves very lucky to have a good starting QB after Tony went down. It's almost impossible to have a good backup, or a third team guy who can play with success. Look at some of the guys who are starting, or looking at significant playing time in the NFL this year, and who teams are fighting to have right now. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trevor Simien, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Hill, Case Keenum, Blaine Gabbert, Geno Smith, Colt McCoy, Drew Stanton, Boykin, Schaub, Mallet, Henney, Shaun Hill, Tolzien, McGloin, Savage, Flowers, Nassib, Gradkowski,!!!! I could go on and on. It's a sad situation, and it's not going to get better any time soon.

With all that being said. Thank God we have been fortunate enough to wind up with who I think will end up being our QB of the future. This kid is the real deal and I believe he is going to be more like Russel Wilson than Choke McNabb. You can call it what you want, blind luck, great scouting, JJ intuition, I don't care. The bottom line is he is here, and from the talk of some very smart football guys, he's the real deal.
coult44 thats a real step up to the plate and you have my respect.
we're were fortunate to get Dak no doubt but we did.
now last year was a different kettle of QB's.
 

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Good original post. i like your positive outlook on the situation. I can figure out why we ended up with Dak who by all accounts is setting the world on fire and some are acting as if we didn't actually draft Dak and he isn't even on our team because "we didn't address the QB position" in the draft.
 

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There has been much debate about QB's here lately and I've been right smack "DAB" in the middle of it. We've debated back up QB's and starting QB's, drafting QB's or signing FA QB's, using veteran QB's or developing young or inexperienced QB's. Well, after a few hours of research, and talking to a D1 coach and scout today, I have to admit I have been way off about some of my views and ideas. It would take up a whole page to discuss every single one of them, but here is the main point. The QB position has declined to a such a degree where there are not enough of them to put two or three good ones on every team in the NFL. College teams just aren't devolving them. These kids are either zone read QB's, or they are running the spread and not being taught how to read defenses anymore. I will let you smart guys teach us the ins and outs of why they are having such a hard time, but the bottom line is we should consider ourselves very lucky to have a good starting QB after Tony went down. It's almost impossible to have a good backup, or a third team guy who can play with success. Look at some of the guys who are starting, or looking at significant playing time in the NFL this year, and who teams are fighting to have right now. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trevor Simien, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Hill, Case Keenum, Blaine Gabbert, Geno Smith, Colt McCoy, Drew Stanton, Boykin, Schaub, Mallet, Henney, Shaun Hill, Tolzien, McGloin, Savage, Flowers, Nassib, Gradkowski,!!!! I could go on and on. It's a sad situation, and it's not going to get better any time soon.

With all that being said. Thank God we have been fortunate enough to wind up with who I think will end up being our QB of the future. This kid is the real deal and I believe he is going to be more like Russel Wilson than Choke McNabb. You can call it what you want, blind luck, great scouting, JJ intuition, I don't care. The bottom line is he is here, and from the talk of some very smart football guys, he's the real deal.

Dak stinks and Romo will be back on 2 weeks. That is the sad type of nonsense you are hearing from some around here. For me personally, I have never been more excited in a long time to start the season.
 

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Good original post. i like your positive outlook on the situation. I can't figure out why we ended up with Dak who by all accounts is setting the world on fire and some are acting as if we didn't actually draft Dak and he isn't even on our team because "we didn't address the QB position" in the draft.

Because, as usual, the media shoved the top picks down our throats and most swallow.

Again.....I still don't think any of the QB's slated for round one this year were round one worthy. The draft and it's rounds are 50/50 AT BEST, IMO.

Denver had Dak in for a workout. Kubiak, ex QB mind you, AND John freakin' Elway.....they passed. Picked Lynch. Go figure.
 

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I share everyone's hope in Dak, but for the love of all that is holy, can we see some regular season games before we anoint this guy the future?
 

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Because, as usual, the media shoved the top picks down our throats and most swallow.

Again.....I still don't think any of the QB's slated for round one this year were round one worthy. The draft and it's rounds are 50/50 AT BEST, IMO.

Denver had Dak in for a workout. Kubiak, ex QB mind you, AND John freakin' Elway.....they passed. Picked Lynch. Go figure.

In their defense, it's dang hard to evaluate quarterbacks today.

These guys play in these childish college offenses, never call a play in a huddle, never take a snap from center, never take a 3-step or 5-step drop, never look past a first read, run more than they throw.......

And NFL people have to project them to run a pro offense? It's a complete crapshoot.
 

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If he does end up being what we all hope he is, that means next year's draft can finally fix the bloody defense!
don't be so quick on the draft....i can see a WR and TE in play in the early rounds.
 

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In their defense, it's dang hard to evaluate quarterbacks today.

These guys play in these childish college offenses, never call a play in a huddle, never take a snap from center, never take a 3-step or 5-step drop, never look past a first read, run more than they throw.......

And NFL people have to project them to run a pro offense? It's a complete crapshoot.

No doubt. It isn't easy but at the very least one should be looking at potential first and foremost, I would assume.

Elway couldn't see that in Dak?

Kubiak who's a seasoned veteran QB and has coached them for years?

The draft is a crapshoot, IMO.
 

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I think some have gotten a little over enthusiastic with our rookie QB and we have yet to see how this is going to play out. On the other side, there is no reason not to be excited based on what we've seen in preseason. But that is preseason and he was basically playing catch with his receivers.

I am looking forward to seeing him over these 4 games to see how he responds to the different defenses set up to stop him, if he's seen as a threat. The first threat is the run game and every DC knows we want to run the ball and that favors a young QB.

When was the last time a 4th round QB was asked to start in his first game? This is most unusual and will be the focus of coverage of opening weekend. If he shines, every team that took a QB ahead of him will be asking "what did we miss? What didn't we see"?

But the most unusual part of this, and the most intriguing, is the set up, He is stepping into the exact opposite situation almost all starting rookie QBs have to traverse, he's got one hell of an offense to step into with half the starters pb players. What was the defense of Romo in his early years? No team around him, he's a one man band. Dak will not have that to deal with, only his own inexperience stands in his way.

I do not expect to see what we saw in the preseason, there will be mistakes and he will stumble. It's how he responds to that I want to see. That's what separates the QB1's and the career backups.
 

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No doubt. It isn't easy but at the very least one should be looking at potential first and foremost, I would assume.

Elway couldn't see that in Dak?

Kubiak who's a seasoned veteran QB and has coached them for years?

The draft is a crapshoot, IMO.

So just because Elway took Lynch over Prescott, the same QB we were trying to trade up for also. This means Dak sucks because Elway and Kubiak didn't take him instead?
Or am I reading your post wrong?
 

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don't be so quick on the draft....i can see a WR and TE in play in the early rounds.

Ugh... ANYTHING but a TE. I'd rather take 7 deep snappers next draft than another early round TE. :D
 

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My thought is that even with a skillful backup QB, teams are hamstrung by the limited practices allowed by the CBA. A 2nd string QB gets almost no snaps with the 1st string offense, meaning when the starter goes down they have no experience at all with the players around them (much less the plays). I would think QB's would need the most reps to be successful, and in today's league they often get the least.
 

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No doubt. It isn't easy but at the very least one should be looking at potential first and foremost, I would assume.

Elway couldn't see that in Dak?

Kubiak who's a seasoned veteran QB and has coached them for years?

The draft is a crapshoot, IMO.
That is just it you have hits and misses and it really is rolling the dice. We seem to have hit on Dak now let's see if we got the steal of the draft!
 

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don't be so quick on the draft....i can see a WR and TE in play in the early rounds.

Possibly, but probably not in the first round, unless the top WR falls into our lap. I'd say as long as Dak shows promise and doesn't completely crash and burn, we won't look for a QB early either. Its early but I'd say defense will be our top target next spring.
 

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Dallas did due diligence on all the QB's but I don't think they had more visits with any QB than they did with Dak. So they get high marks for that. If they thought he was what he has shown thus far, they would have never waited till the end of the 4th to get him. It's ludicrous to think that.

I do predict a bumpy road for Dak, but I don't think there is a chance he is going to be awful. He played major college ball and elevated a team to the top of one of the toughest divisions in football. He got better every year and his leadership traits and coachability have been mentioned by everyone that has been around him. We are seeing that. His athleticism and running ability give him a little to fall back on.
 

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Possibly, but probably not in the first round, unless the top WR falls into our lap. I'd say as long as Dak shows promise and doesn't completely crash and burn, we won't look for a QB early either. Its early but I'd say defense will be our top target next spring.
very true...but after last year, most would have thought we were going defense this draft if we couldn't get a QB.

if we crash and burn and land a top 10 pick again and the DE from A&M is gone....will be interesting if JuJu is on the board when they are up.
 
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