My cap situation breakdown

[LatinMind]

Why would Carr accept that? He refused to take a pay cut before. We just need to designate him a June 1st cut and move on. He isn't worth the headache at any rate of pay.

Because he had a considerable amount of more money owed. I think this player is going to give alot of fans of headache this offseason. I can easily see a paycut this yr.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Also last season there was no net gain for the Cowboys cutting Carr... The Cowboys weren't going to gain anything after dead money was accounted for.

That's changed this year. There is gain for the Cowboys, and where there's gain, there's leverage.

 

[basstapp]

I still for the best of me do not understand why people think Wilcox and church are the same player. Church isn't great at coverage, but he takes good angles and can tackle. Yes, he does get joked out of his shoes 2x a year, but Wilcox is an undisciplined athlete. He tries to shoulder tackle everything, Doesn't take proper angles and makes mental mistakes throughout the game. Wilcox should be released and Heath should be the backup safety.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Because he had a considerable amount of more money owed. I think this player is going to give alot of fans of headache this offseason. I can easily see a paycut this yr.

I must be missing something here. He didn't accept a pay cut before but now he will? Just because we want him too? The amount of money he is owed this year compared to last year doesn't matter. His level of play doesn't warrant anywhere close to what he has been paid over the years. It's impossible to justify his current contract and he isn't giving us a hometown discount because he suddenly feels sorry for that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I must be missing something here. He didn't accept a pay cut before but now he will? Just because we want him too? The amount of money he is owed this year compared to last year doesn't matter. His level of play doesn't warrant anywhere close to what he has been paid over the years. It's impossible to justify his current contract and he isn't giving us a hometown discount because he suddenly feels sorry for that.

And he may not BDC.

The challenge last year was the Cowboys weren't going to gain anything cap-wise by cutting him. It was pretty much even-steven.

So not only was there not any monetary gain, they still have to replace the player.

This offseason is much different because there is at least a couple mill (I read $2.7 mil) cap advantage to cutting him. So they could get rid of his contract and get a replacement, who's probably going to not going to perform at a lesser level.

Carr will only come to the table if he believes the Cowboys will cut him.

 

[Bocephus]

In your opinion is trumaine Johnson or janoris Jenkins the better fit for us

 

[ghst187]

I tend to agree. Don't forget about David Irving - he was pretty good in the rotation before he went on injured reserve.

I liked what I saw from Irving a lot too. If I'm the FO, I'm planning on a DL of Irving, Hardy, DLaw, and Gregory. I'm bringing Hardy back and like a lot said, we already took the PR hit, its over now so let's get the rewards too unless he is just too big of a locker room problem. If we lose Hardy, I'm hoping to get a DT in rd2.

 

[CCBoy]

Cap situation. projected 153.8
cap space 10.2 mil
roll over 10.1
rookie cap 9.2
So without any modifying contracts or releases Dallas will have 11.1 mil to spend

Restructures:
Brandon Carr: I think Dallas and Claiborne are ready to move on. Carr shouldnt be starting and probably wont but Dallas still owes him money in 2016, and 2017. His value is low, i would just Ask him to cut his base salary to vet mil which is 858k mil for him and 4.717 mil in guaranteed money for 2016, add a 2nd yr with a 1-2mil base and his 2.717 mil thats still on the books. Dallas gains 8.252 mil on the cap. taking it to 19.352 that Dallas has to spend minus the rookie cap. If he doesnt accept then you release him and save 7.434 on the cap and spending goes to 18.834 mil. But i think he will accept. I dont see a team paying Carr 5mil+.
adjusted cap space 19.352mil

Tyron Smith, Restructure 8mil of his base
Adjusted cap space 27.352mil

Tyrone Crawford, his deal was made for this. Restructure 6mil
Adjusted cap space 33.352 mil

Releases:
Barry Church, I see no difference between Church and Wilcox. Both are bad in coverage with Church being slightly better at tackling. Church is more expensive and i think there will be a new S to go with Jones starting in 2016. Saves 2.75mil
Adjusted cap space 36.12mil

So with this scenario 4 moves would free this team up to alot. 45.32mil in cap room but 36.12 to spend as you always have to account for the rookie contracts.

With no big FAs to resign this team should be big players in FA.

That's a lot of cap space...thanks for the work, Latin Mind.

I would resign Hardy. If Carr went 'natural,' then a quality/youthful cornerback should be the target in free agency. Pay for both. Myself, I prefer an economical Claiborne...he is still young enough with potential.

If I had to put on a back burner, a position, it would be with a target for a 1st or 2nd round projection in 2017, for defensive tackle and defensive end.

If I were Jerry, and we know that he covets top level shiny stones, and with his temptations just last season....well, unless he has changed, a quarterback is the Dallas top pick this season.

That stated, I would immediately to to the top cornerback at round two, this season.

That means that in free agency, a quality cornerback and defensive tackle needs to be acquired.

With what you provided, that is very feasible...and actually to this fan, smart.

 

[CCBoy]

Remember that even if our rookie pool is $9.2 million, signing the rookies won't use up $9.2 million of cap room. All of the rookie will either knock another player out of our Top 51 or not have a cap number high enough to be in our Top 51. Right now, with nine draft picks, a rookie pool of $9.2 million would mean we'd need only about $4.8 million of cap room for the rookies.

Thanks, AdamJT13....I am continually educated by and appreciative of yourself.

 

[jazzcat22]

Why would Carr accept that? He refused to take a pay cut before. We just need to designate him a June 1st cut and move on. He isn't worth the headache at any rate of pay.

There was an article posted a month or so back, can't remember who or where it came from. Saying..
Last year Carr had all the leverage by refusing to take a pay cut. This year the Cowboys have all the leverage. Last year it would have been a total cap hit for the team of his entire pay. This year they can take the hit and save even more cap.
I agree, he refused before, and will probably do so again. Time to move on, and from their play, if they want depth at CB, just sign Mo to a cap friendly deal. Though it's probably better to move on from both.

 

[Killerinstinct]

This year FA period will be the most interesting in years due to the improvements in the cap situation. There are two theories on how to use F.A. One is fill in holes with middling players and attempt to improve them in the draft. The other is to target exceptional players and fill one or two needs. I think this year they can do both. I personally feel that the one position they should pay up for is CB and I know a lot of people wont like that due to the experience with Carr. Carr was a 5th round pick if I remember right that excelled in K.C.'s system and was surrounded by talent. It was thought that he would do well in Rob Ryans system. It didn't work out for a multitude of reasons but that doesn't mean you can't succeed at signing a free agent CB. I would be targeting a starting caliber CB through F.A. and then sign a few role players. I think it will be hard to address other needs in the draft if you are going into it knowing you have to draft a starting caliber CB and there likely are only a few options to do so in the draft. Out of all the positions I think this is the one that should be addressed in F.A. with a major signing.

 

[cowboyblue22]

regardless carr needs to be gone this year and mo along with him a rookie could play as well as these two.

 

[CCBoy]

This well could be another free agent consideration: QB.
(on Romo)

Board operator: He will be 36 next season.

Greenberg: Thirty-six ... I'm gonna go under also. ... I do think the right thing to do in Dallas is to be bringing in his heir apparent. Romo is still, if he's healthy, a terrific quarterback, but I do think that the time is right to be trying to figure out your line of succession.

Golic: Also, they need to get a better backup in place because he's not making it through seasons, which could actually butt heads with that thought of grooming a young guy to take his spot. If that young guy gets thrown into the fire a little too soon because of Romo getting injured, then you don't know what you're gonna get. It couldn't be much worse than what went on this year with their backups.

Greenberg: No, nothing could be worse than what went on with their backups this year. The young guy that they seem to have in mind, we all know, is Manziel. The young guy that I have in mind in Griffin. I would roll the dice on RGIII if he's interested. He's from Baylor -- he went to Baylor -- so it's right there, you know, sort of a little local thing. He wouldn't be expected to come in and play a whole lot. I know they're a high-profile team, but I don't think he would get that much attention if he's not playing and Romo is, and (he could) learn from a veteran group and a veteran quarterback with the idea that maybe, in two years or so, he can see if he's ready to do it. I think that's a roll of the dice I might consider if I'm them. What do you think?

Golic: Of those two, I would take RGIII.


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[Nightman]

And he may not BDC.

The challenge last year was the Cowboys weren't going to gain anything cap-wise by cutting him. It was pretty much even-steven.

So not only was there not any monetary gain, they still have to replace the player.

This offseason is much different because there is at least a couple mill (I read $2.7 mil) cap advantage to cutting him. So they could get rid of his contract and get a replacement, who's probably going to not going to perform at a lesser level.

Carr will only come to the table if he believes the Cowboys will cut him.

DAL was still saving 8m last year with a June 1st cut. That is more than a little and they had plenty of leverage. No one is paying Carr 8-9m a year besides the idiots at VR.

Since they are already 4m under for 2015 that 8m would be rolled over to 2016 which would completely negate any Dead Money. Last year was the year to cut him. If they don't do it this year then there is something seriously wrong with the FO.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

DAL was still saving 8m last year with a June 1st cut. That is more than a little and they had plenty of leverage. No one is paying Carr 8-9m a year besides the idiots at VR.

Since they are already 4m under for 2015 that 8m would be rolled over to 2016 which would completely negate any Dead Money. Last year was the year to cut him. If they don't do it this year then there is something seriously wrong with the FO.

I think they offer him a pay cut to stay.. first.

 

[Nightman]

I think they offer him a pay cut to stay.. first.

Why? He is terrible at 9.1m but OK at 5m?

We can get 0 INTs for a lot less. It is way past time to move on.

 

[Derinyar]

Carr won't be restructured. It makes no sense considering he would have a massive cap hit next year if he was. It feels like cut, reduce, or keep are his three options.

To me Hardy is the decision that will define the rest of the off season. We currently have 2 EDGE guys under contract. We need at least 5. I suspect we do resign Jack Crawford. I think Lawrence showed enough to not be worried about him. Does anyone here feel comfortable, right now, with Gregory being the other major snap guy in the DE pool? So I think we either have to resign Hardy or dip into another high priced EDGE player. I just think that if we're trying to maximize the next two years we have to get proven rushers as opposed to hope for development. Also I don't think picking someone like Bosa or Buckner at 4 would be enough, as almost all rookie EDGE guys don't produce at a high level until season two at the soonest.

But I do think something in the 25-30 million dollar range for the cap space available is fully possible.

 

[LatinMind]

I must be missing something here. He didn't accept a pay cut before but now he will? Just because we want him too? The amount of money he is owed this year compared to last year doesn't matter. His level of play doesn't warrant anywhere close to what he has been paid over the years. It's impossible to justify his current contract and he isn't giving us a hometown discount because he suddenly feels sorry for that.

Hes going to be 30you think he'd make 5mil from another team? He can stay in place he;s familiar with and no state taxes. And you cant justify his current contract. Thats why u tell him take the vet minimum and ur prorated bonus and stay. Or get released. He'll basically be getting the same amount of money either way. But atleast he knows where he will be playing and with who. And he knows hes playing where there are no state taxes lol.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Why? He is terrible at 9.1m but OK at 5m?

We can get 0 INTs for a lot less. It is way past time to move on.

I don't disagree.

I'm not sure which direction the Cowboys will go.

As bad as Carr was, Mo was even worse.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why? He is terrible at 9.1m but OK at 5m?

We can get 0 INTs for a lot less. It is way past time to move on.

He's a serviceable corner. No one in the secondary was getting picks out of the scheme. He wasn't getting picked on this year like he was two years ago.

He gives up stuff underneath but our nickel corner and SAM have been awful too which contributes to that. He doesn't miss games, will play physical, and has a workmanlike attitude for all he is getting paid.

I want him making less not gone. Of course bring in new talent anyway. Even with Scandrick back we need more corners. Cutting him saves $5m as does getting him to take a paycut. Keep the corner.