My final thoughts on the Taylor situation

[GimmeTheBall!]

nobody deserved to die, except Hitler

And Stalin.
And Idi Amin and that Okla. Cith bombing guy.

 

[5Stars]

And Stalin.
And Idi Amin and that Okla. Cith bombing guy.

Jeffery Dahmer (Packer fan) and Ted Bundy too!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I ignored this site for the last 3 days because I knew this type of P.C. rubbish would be found. Enough already! People are trying to make Taylor some messiah. I'm glad he was trying to change his life but there is something to be said for karma. He did a lot of bad things in his past as well and he paid for them. Having a daughter doesn't just him this angel all of a sudden...PLEASE! No, this was not a random murder. It was planned. For petesake, there was a knife on his pillow the week prior and people still want to argue that this murder was due to a random burglary...please enough with the suspension of intelligence. This is not the same as Michael Jordan's dad being killed for the Cadillac.

And what would any intelligent person do? If I found a knife on my pillow, I would get out of town ASAP. It's like those horror films, the dude goes in the house and the ghosts are warning you to get the heII out and the guy decides to remain in the house until he gets killed in the end. Yeah, I'll say, I think Taylor had too much of an ego to get out Miami. He was being tough and ignored the threat. That's not being a man, that's being stupid.

I'm sorry that a father lost her daughter. I'm sorry that a human being was killed. However, it's not like Taylor was an upstanding and responsible citizen who was a victim of a random murder, yet that's how this death is being treated. This is just sentimentality at it's finest. That's all!

And the reason I'm raising this criticism is that celebrating Taylor by proclaiming his death as some horrific tragedy on the same level as MLK's death is sending the wrong message. We should be saying: "Look kids, if you act like a gangsta and upset people by trying to be a thug, it's going to haunt you. Carry yourself as a gentlemen and treat people with respect and you will avoid being killed by thugs." Instead, we are saying: "Poor Taylor, he acted like a thug both on and off the field but we should forget that because he had a daughter and now he is a completely changed person thus he is a victim despite ignoring a threat he received a week earlier. This reminds me of the sentimentality following Tupac's death. Tupac was a great artist but sorry, he had it coming.

:bravo:

On the other hand, I posted an article about the death of Bill Willis, the Jackie Robinson of professional football. He played in an era when he was not welcomed in hotels when his team was on the road. All-American and a HOFer.
As I write, only one person has commented on his passing.
Perhaps Willis was not a millionaire or his story was not sexy enough to go all sensitive and candlelight-vigil on.
So, we have this outpouring of tears of grief from those who have the name KILL in their logon names, those who have shootings in their avatars or signature photos, those with a devilish avatar who suddenly are swooning with grief. Gimme a break.

So, tears for Taylor and a big fat nothing for Willis, a guy who lived his life with grace and dignity and died just the other day. RIP both of you, and thank you Mr. Willis for helping to give professional football grace and a good name.

 

[1fisher]

:bravo:

On the other hand, I posted an article about the death of Bill Willis, the Jackie Robinson of professional football. He played in an era when he was not welcomed in hotels when his team was on the road. All-American and a HOFer.
As I write, only one person has commented on his passing.
Perhaps Willis was not a millionaire or his story was not sexy enough to go all sensitive and candlelight-vigil on.
So, we have this outpouring of tears of grief from those who have the name KILL in their logon names, those who have shootings in their avatars or signature photos, those with a devilish avatar who suddenly are swooning with grief. Gimme a break.

So, tears for Taylor and a big fat nothing for Willis, a guy who lived his life with grace and dignity and died just the other day. RIP both of you, and thank you Mr. Willis for helping to give professional football grace and a good name.

Where can I sign up to send my sympathies to Willis? Seriously?

 

[Sarge]

And to even bring up his career in one light or another is ultimately tactless.

Spot on.

 

[firehawk350]

:bravo:

On the other hand, I posted an article about the death of Bill Willis, the Jackie Robinson of professional football. He played in an era when he was not welcomed in hotels when his team was on the road. All-American and a HOFer.
As I write, only one person has commented on his passing.
Perhaps Willis was not a millionaire or his story was not sexy enough to go all sensitive and candlelight-vigil on.
So, we have this outpouring of tears of grief from those who have the name KILL in their logon names, those who have shootings in their avatars or signature photos, those with a devilish avatar who suddenly are swooning with grief. Gimme a break.

So, tears for Taylor and a big fat nothing for Willis, a guy who lived his life with grace and dignity and died just the other day. RIP both of you, and thank you Mr. Willis for helping to give professional football grace and a good name.

I wrote about this in another forum, but the passing of older folks never strikes people with overwhelming grief because it's the natural cycle of life. People get old and die. It's not tragic because they lived a full life. You rejoice that they lived the life they did at the length they did. I lost my grandfather a couple of years back and I mourned and grieved like anybody else would, but it wasn't very painful because my grandfather lived his life, accomplished and enjoyed all that life had to offer and then passed on to his next life. The way it's supposed to be. I even smiled a bit at the funeral because I was glad he got to enjoy life the way he did, there's no sorrow in that.

Sean Taylor hadn't lived his life. He didn't see his daughter grow up, his daughter still needs him. He's not going see her graduate, walk her down the aisle, retire and live his years out with his girlfriend and bounce his grandchildren on his knees or any of those pleasures afforded to those of us fortunate enough to reach our full years. That's why people are handling this different, not because Taylor was a better person or anything like that.

 

[1fisher]

I wrote about this in another forum, but the passing of older folks never strikes people with overwhelming grief because it's the natural cycle of life. People get old and die. It's not tragic because they lived a full life. You rejoice that they lived the life they did at the length they did. I lost my grandfather a couple of years back and I mourned and grieved like anybody else would, but it wasn't very painful because my grandfather lived his life, accomplished and enjoyed all that life had to offer and then passed on to his next life. The way it's supposed to be. I even smiled a bit at the funeral because I was glad he got to enjoy life the way he did, there's no sorrow in that.

Sean Taylor hadn't lived his life. He didn't see his daughter grow up, his daughter still needs him. He's not going see her graduate, walk her down the aisle, retire and live his years out with his girlfriend and bounce his grandchildren on his knees or any of those pleasures afforded to those of us fortunate enough to reach our full years. That's why people are handling this different, not because Taylor was a better person or anything like that.

Sounds like some of the ones who are tired of the sympathy have an agenda. (Maybe, maybe not).


I'm not bothered by it all.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

The last 24 hours were not the time for that discussion, IMO... but maybe we're coming up on that time...

I suppose it is coming and it will be a deluge. Threads by the score, I predict.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

And Stalin.
And Idi Amin and that Okla. Cith bombing guy.

Eichman.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

And Stalin.
And Idi Amin and that Okla. Cith bombing guy.

Every bad guy in the Bourne movies.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Well said! The moral in this incident is being lost. Taylor's past events and actions may have led to his death. Instead of glossing over those incidents, we should acknowledge and use them as a reminder and valuable lesson as to the dangers of the violence associated with street cred', pride or whatever we want to call it. This type of thing has been going on for centuries. Men get angry and decide to let their anger rule their decisions instead of thinking of the bigger picture aka being mature. It takes a mature and responsible person to allow his ego to take a hit for the preservation of his life and happiness.

If my son was going into any professional or amateur sport, I would use this incident to show him why he shouldn't get involved with the wrong types of people and why he should be the bigger man and stay above that type of activity.

Yeah but was anything lost by holding your tongue for three days out of respect?

Very early on I expressed skepticism but said I would withhold out of respect and I did.

 

[NoDak Cowboy]

And, sorry to say, but 24 years old is still a kid.

It's thinking like this, that is a major problem in our society today.

Young men and women don't want to accept responsibility for their actions because they are still "kids". Give me a break.

 

[HighTechDave]

this thread needs to die...

 

[NoDak Cowboy]

this thread needs to die...

bump.

 

[1fisher]

bump.

 

[HighTechDave]

bump.

lol!