My Meaningless Thoughts On the Game...

[zrinkill]

Your right...

My legs are sore from those 12 - 45 lb plates I was leg pressing 6 times yesterday.

But you wouldn,t know anything about that now would you?

:laugh2:

I see Lou Ferigno is gonna try and scare people with his make believe muscles again.

Give it up kid.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

:laugh2:

I see Lou Ferigno is gonna try and scare people with his make believe muscles again.

Give it up kid.

Lolz...

Ill post a video if I can get my wife to tape it with my phone at the Gym next time. I will make sure I reference you in it so its not a "stand in".

Kids watch wrestling. Men don't. Give it up "kid" as you have no idea what you are talking about. Get a DD214 , some rows and some deployed time and then you too can big a "big boy".

 

[zrinkill]

Lolz... Ill post a video if I can get my wife to tape it with my phone at the Gym next time. I will make sure I reference you in it so its not a "stand in".

You do that clown.

Kids watch wrestling. Men don't. Give it up "kid" as you have no idea what you are talking about. Get a DD214 , some rows and some deployed time and then you too can big a "big boy".

What real men don't do is obsess over naked pictures of QB's

And do not know what bigging a big boy is but I had 7 years of deployed time.

as far as your little threat ....... 622 w seale nacogdoches texas ...... anytime.

 

[Alexander]

Our defense having to respond to adversity four or five times a year when Romo has one of those games is a pretty easy task for a unit loaded with first round picks and hundreds of millions of dollars of long term contracts.

I won't disagree that the defense should perform better. That isn't the point. We'd all love to have the Ravens or the 1985 Bears. But it is clear this isn't and won't be that any time soon. Especially if things continue on the same way as they have been. And just because there is a lot of picks being spent and a lot of money being thrown around doesn't mean they are necessarily that great and just underachieving. One other point, name me a dominating defense right now? You just don't see it. Maybe a handful of teams have it. And even those that do, like the Giants, can have their off nights. We saw their offense take up the slack. Next week it might be different. The thing is, it isn't habitual. The turnovers on offense are habitual.

Unless one unit is dominant, you can't have that kind of inconsistency. Either the defense dominates or the offense scores a ton of points. It just so happens that our offense is better. But that still isn't good enough to get more than five hundred football because of episodes like we saw the other night.

So what do you do? Control what you can. Change what isn't working. Romo eliminating mistakes is part of that. If he's incapable (and it looks that way) then you modify your approach with the other controllables. That lends itself to how the team is handled. Namely the defense. If they can't hack it, then limit the opportunities. Develop an attack that recognizes it. Most of the time, it looks like we anticipate the offense carrying the load and when it doesn't things fall apart.

And I know everyone gets tired of the harkening back to the Johnson era, but be honest, that wasn't exactly full of defensive talent so much more than this one is that it overwhelmed everything else. They had to work at it. They were a team. There were few occasions where the defense had to win games and make stops, but overall, the offense carried the load and minimized mistakes making their jobs easier. They were able to do that because there is no doubt they were unified with a strong leader at the forefront with direction. That was our coach.

I don't see that with this team at all. I don't even see an offense that appreciates what the defense is doing half the time. If they did, we'd see more ball control when the defense was just on the field forever, but we don't, do we? That's a Garrett issue and a Romo one for the lack of execution. But above all, it is a head coach issue. When you have two heads each one barely acknowledging what the other is doing, how can you expect synergy?

This defense never wins us any games, our offense has single handedly done it several times. If any unit should resent the other it should be the offense. The defense never forces any turnovers and doesn't do anything to help itself get off the field. You can't get mad when your QB has a bad game and you finally ask something from that side of the ball.

You can get mad when the QB does it often and at the worst times. It is about timing. Romo needs to understand when to force an issue and when not to. I can appreciate forcing a deep pass to Sam Hurd in a shootout. And even when the D has shown it could "win the game", he lays an egg, as he did against Pittsburgh. The Ravens game had plenty of momentum shifts but the first half had a continuation of the Steeler game. Our defense was stifling. The second Giants game had a great defensive performance and lo and behold, we won that because the mistakes weren't made.

Just as much as the D should have faith in Romo, he needs to have faith in them that he doesn't have to be a hero with each and every play. Manage the game. That's the problem with having two sides of the football that apparently don't work in conjunction. That's the staff's fault, namely the weak (or powerless) head coach's fault. Again, the team concept.

It is a circular issue, for sure. That's what happens when you aren't consistent. One way or the other, one side has to start being that way. Then you can work on fixing what is the continuing issue. The biggest constant I see is Romo making the errors. It is far more common in the last few years than our defense not playing well enough to win a football game. To me, that's also more controllable than expecting the defense to hold after spotting seven points and asking them to force FGs half the time.

It is not about either or. It is finding the right balance. To me, I think the defense is horribly mismanaged right now. They simply don't get the turnovers. But since you can't scrap it and they have shown they can be competent, you have to look at the overall team concept. Like I said, I don't see it.

 

[canters]

The mention in the first post by Vela that we need to start looking for Romo's long-term replacement due to his habit of turning the ball over is one I am afraid I agree with. Saddens me to say so. I defended him in the past but now I just don't know anymore.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Oh geez.....

Sure there are exceptions but lets make a list.

Exceptions

Brady (stud)
Bulger (dud)
Warner (stud)
Romo (dud)
Garrard (dud)
Farve (HOF)
Casell (decent)
Shaub (decent)
Orton (dud)
Trent (decent)
Delhomme (dud)
Shaun Hill (who knows)
Hasselback (decent)


1st round QB's with clout.

Eli
Peyton
Rivers
Brees (might as well, 1st pick of 2nd round)
McFlubb
Palmer
Rodgers
Ben
Cutler


1st round Duds/misses

Campbell
Leftwich
Collins (decent career
Pennington (decent career)
Jamarcus
VY
Leinart

Potential first round studs

Sanchez
Matty Ice
Stafford
Flacco
Brady Quinn


The upper echlon of QBS in this league are first rounders with the exception of Brady, Warner.

Give me a first round QB. Sure you might miss and miss bad but if you hit, you are rewarded for years.

Part of the issue with those 1st rounders that haven't turned out well is that they've played on truly awful teams, started when they weren't ready and/or couldn't be protected from a physical and mental standpoint and they crashed because of it.

I think the defense is a big problem right now, but otherwise there's a lot of talent on the team and an O-Line that has been exceptional the first two weeks and that if we can get somebody with the talent of Ryan or Flacco or Sanchez, they could do a solid job their rookie year and then really come on in year 2 or 3.





YAKUZA

 

[jay cee]

That's the problem.

You can't be falling into the "herds" way of thinking.

Get the facts and come to your own conclusion.

I don't understand your point.

I don't think it makes sense to throw that many passes when you have a dominant running game. I don't need to follow anyone to reach that conclusion.

IMO, against the Giants the Cowboys should have had at least 8-12 more rush attempts than passes. Their running game was that dominant. And it should be, with 3 good rb's a big powerful OL

My point was, that I will back off of some of my criticism of Garrett because he is not the only playcaller with this problem it seems.

But I still don't think his approach is helping the team win.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I think the defense is a big problem right now, but otherwise there's a lot of talent on the team and an O-Line that has been exceptional the first two weeks and that if we can get somebody with the talent of Ryan or Flacco or Sanchez, they could do a solid job their rookie year and then really come on in year 2 or 3.


YAKUZA

Im with you. Need a talented guy with confidence that will learn from his mistakes.